History YMMV / WorldofWarcraft

2nd May '16 3:03:01 AM NaraNumas
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* Some fans aren't happy that lore books and ''Legion'' reveals that the Dragons have gone sterile, given how important the Dragons are in the franchise. That this is apparently an aftereffect of the aspects using the Dragon Soul to kill Deathwing makes it even worse, while a lot of fans are fine with the aspects losing their immortality and immense power, they feel like putting all dragons on the extinction clock is just blatantly unfair.

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* ** Some fans aren't happy that lore books and ''Legion'' reveals that the Dragons have gone sterile, given how important the Dragons are in the franchise. That this is apparently an aftereffect of the aspects using the Dragon Soul to kill Deathwing makes it even worse, while a lot of fans are fine with the aspects losing their immortality and immense power, they feel like putting all dragons on the extinction clock is just blatantly unfair.
2nd May '16 3:02:49 AM NaraNumas
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* Some fans aren't happy that lore books and ''Legion'' reveals that the Dragons have gone sterile, given how important the Dragons are in the franchise. That this is apparently an aftereffect of the aspects using the Dragon Soul to kill Deathwing makes it even worse, while a lot of fans are fine with the aspects losing their immortality and immense power, they feel like putting all dragons on the extinction clock is just blatantly unfair.
30th Apr '16 9:20:10 AM Austin
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** Well speaking of redemption, worth mentioning is characterization of many older characters, there's just as many who'd say that Blizzard actually did good to the character and think of it as a step forward on CharacterDevelopment, making them more interesting or at least consider it a logical step after what they went through; well just as much as those who thinks that Blizzard butchered a character from their better received characterization, be it Zul'jin turning into an all-hating Raid Boss, Kael'thas going full on Starscream and Kil'jaeden worship, Illidan becoming a full-on villain before Legion, Sylvanas getting more like The Lich King, Thrall stepping down from the Warchief seat, Jaina becoming embittered and jaded and now Horde-hating, and of course, there's always ''Garrosh Hellscream''.
*** It's like Blizzard designed ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'' [[AuthorsSavingThrow just to cater to the latter, embittered base]] while they're free to cater to the newer base with continuing the [=WoW=] department.
26th Apr '16 10:59:08 AM Eagal
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* BeamMeUpScotty: The achievement [[http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=4403 "Many Whelps! Handle It!"]] comes from the infamous "50 DKP minus" video... but Dives never actually said that. What he said was "Whelps! Left side! Even side! Many whelps! '''''Now!''''' Handle it!"



* DesignatedMonkey[=/=]UnpopularPopularCharacter: Tyrande Whisperwind suffered from this as the expansions progressed, at least in the eyes of some Alliance players. This is because she get increasingly [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] and [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] when she's not being kept OutOfFocus (though Gelbin's out of focus more than Tyrande, his character hasn't taken the hits hers has). In the novel 'War Crimes' several of her witnesses turn against her, and much of the book reads like a who's who of Warcraft characters lining up to criticize her. Also no one in-universe brings up or seems to care that Tyrande too has been hurt by the Horde; they regularly assaulted her realm, slaughtered her people in skirmishes, ravaged her land and killed a demigod she revered. Hopefully the expansion 'World of Warcraft; Legion' does something [[LetsGetDangerous go]][[ADayInTheLimelight od]] for her rather than something bad like turning her into a DisposableWoman.

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* DesignatedMonkey[=/=]UnpopularPopularCharacter: DesignatedMonkey: Tyrande Whisperwind suffered from this as the expansions progressed, at least in the eyes of some Alliance players. This is because she get increasingly [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] and [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] when she's not being kept OutOfFocus (though Gelbin's out of focus more than Tyrande, his character hasn't taken the hits hers has). In the novel 'War Crimes' several of her witnesses turn against her, and much of the book reads like a who's who of Warcraft characters lining up to criticize her. Also no one in-universe brings up or seems to care that Tyrande too has been hurt by the Horde; they regularly assaulted her realm, slaughtered her people in skirmishes, ravaged her land and killed a demigod she revered. Hopefully the expansion 'World of Warcraft; Legion' does something [[LetsGetDangerous go]][[ADayInTheLimelight od]] for her rather than something bad like turning her into a DisposableWoman.



* FanDumb: Textbook example - EVERY. FREAKIN'. TYPE. In fact, you can find many who are all types in one, mentally challenged package.



* GodwinsLaw: It's unknown whether it was intentional on Blizzard's part, Garrosh's life story appears to have several parallels to Adolf Hitler's; see his character page for more information.



* HeartwarmingMoments:
** Muradin's reunion with his brothers.
** Darion when he receive his father's soulstone from the player.
** A minor one, but one nonetheless especially for new players questing in Durotar, some Orc [=NPC=]s upon bidden farewell will say "Be safe", and set the player on their way. Some female Orc [=NPC=]s say it as well, but not with as much caring and compassion.
** More than the Orcs is the way Goblin [=NPC=]s say "Hurry back". Male Goblins (especially the ones with high-pitched squeeky voices) sound like they're saying "Hurry back (with your gold)"; female Goblins sound like they are really worried for your safety... or the safety of your gold, either way, they sound genuinely concerned.



** Any time a boss has a pre-fight speech longer than 30 seconds, expect to see players typing "/yawn" or some kind of snarky commentary. And any time a post-fight dialogue scene happens, such as the scene after the Alliance version of the Deathbringer fight in Icecrown Citadel, players will often be on their way to the next boss before it ends.
*** This isn't because they don't care about the lore. It's because bosses take lots of attempts to get down, and they do the same pre-fight speech every time you pull them. So players that raid on a regular basis see these cutscenes so many times that they can recite them word for word and even dream about them.



* StoicWoobie: Baine Bloodhoof.

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* SilentMajority: Did you know there are people who actually ''don't'' play this game for 14 hours a day? Did you know that there are plenty of people who actually play ''other games'' too? Or that there are people in the military playing it, college students, or people with 40-hour-a-week jobs and a family? The way the BrokenBase carries on about it, you probably wouldn't believe so.
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StoicWoobie: Baine Bloodhoof.



* TearJerker: The Death Knight starting area includes a quest where the player, a former hero taken by the Scourge, is ordered to murder a prisoner. The prisoner is a member of your race, who recognizes you from before you were turned and begs you to remember your homeland and fight the Lich King's control. You cannot continue until you've executed them.
** Some versions of the quest are sadder than others; trolls are reminded of how they used to be a "mojo masta", but night elf players have to kill their caretaker from when they were a child.
** And then there's the worgen and goblin versions added in Cataclysm. Worgen are faced with Lord Harrington, a fellow Silverpine Forest worgen who escaped Shadowfang Keep with the player's assistance, and who insists they were the most noble worgen he ever knew - [[PlayerPunch and now they're going to kill him]]; goblins meet Gally Lumpstain, who recalls sadly that you were his best friend, and that he joined the Argent Dawn to honour your memory and noble character. It's hard not to feel [[YouBastard like a complete monster]] as you cut him down.
** Tirion's son Taelan's death, and finding a picture of Tirion's lost family in the quest "Of Love and Family" in Stratholme.



* UglyCute: Broken draenei.

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* %%* UglyCute: Broken draenei.



* VocalMinority / SilentMajority: Did you know there are people who actually ''don't'' play this game for 14 hours a day? Did you know that there are plenty of people who actually play ''other games'' too? Or that there are people in the military playing it, college students, or people with 40-hour-a-week jobs and a family? The way the BrokenBase carries on about it, you probably wouldn't believe so.
26th Apr '16 10:48:39 AM Eagal
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* CriticalResearchFailure: The "Magistrix" title, common among the blood elves. The real female form of the word "magister" is actually "magistra", and it would only have been "magistrix" if the male form had been "magist'''o'''r".
26th Apr '16 10:46:56 AM Eagal
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-bRZgHmC2o&hd=1 Nightsong]] from ''Cataclysm''.
** Found within the ''Mists of Pandaria'' beta files was this gem, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwqGAszNPQA a remix of an older song from the RTS days.]]
26th Apr '16 10:45:54 AM Eagal
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* AlasPoorScrappy: [[spoiler:Rhonin]] in Literature/TidesOfWar.

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* AlasPoorScrappy: [[spoiler:Rhonin]] in Literature/TidesOfWar.



*** Then again, DracoInLeatherPants plays a ''large'' role in this sentiment. See the details in below.

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*** Then again, DracoInLeatherPants plays a ''large'' role %%** [[spoiler:Rhonin]] in this sentiment. See the details in below.Literature/TidesOfWar.
26th Apr '16 10:44:58 AM Eagal
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** The reduction in talent choices, going from a point every level before Cataclysm to a point every other level from 10-80 and one per level from 81-85, to six talent points with three options each in Mists of Pandaria. Detractors say that it makes the game too simplistic.
** Also {{invoked}} by Blizzard as a reason people don't like their changes.

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** The reduction in talent choices, going from a point every level before Cataclysm to a point every other level from 10-80 and one per level from 81-85, to six talent points with three options each in Mists of Pandaria. Detractors say that it makes the game too simplistic.
** Also
simplistic. This trope was {{invoked}} by Blizzard as a reason people don't like their changes.
changes.
26th Apr '16 10:44:13 AM Eagal
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*** Also {{invoked}} by Blizzard as a reason people don't like their changes.
*** The talent tree was always a pretty flawed mechanic. Instead of everyone having a different talent set, most players would simply go up the same talent path to max out on the most dps or healing possible. Then there was the ''Hybrid'' players who would go up in multiple talent trees at once, never being able to get the more powerful skills in any talent trees and ending up with a flawed hero that's weaker then everyone else. The only problem here was that Blizzard took the easy way out and just axed the mechanic entirely instead of continuously trying to work with it to finally get the mechanic perfected.

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*** ** Also {{invoked}} by Blizzard as a reason people don't like their changes.
*** The talent tree was always a pretty flawed mechanic. Instead of everyone having a different talent set, most players would simply go up the same talent path to max out on the most dps or healing possible. Then there was the ''Hybrid'' players who would go up in multiple talent trees at once, never being able to get the more powerful skills in any talent trees and ending up with a flawed hero that's weaker then everyone else. The only problem here was that Blizzard took the easy way out and just axed the mechanic entirely instead of continuously trying to work with it to finally get the mechanic perfected.
19th Apr '16 8:37:46 PM Steam_Lord
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Legion'', through and through, such that one Reddit commenter called it the "In case of emergency, break glass" expansion. Artifact weapons and the chance to obtain the long sought-after ''[[InfinityPlusOneSword Ashbringer]]''. Illidan is alive again, and with any luck he'll get that redemption story the fans have longed for. The elven races of either faction, the Night Elves and Blood Elves are all slated to get some focus after two entire expansions spent DemotedToExtra. Demon Hunters are finally becoming a playable hero class. Class and spec identity is being advertised as a big focus, with some specs getting completely new focuses to make them more unique, after an expansion of pragmatic ability cuts for space; this also includes player characters joining factions limited to their own class, with potential for class-specific quests. As the backdrop, we finally get to face the long-awaited return of the Burning Legion head-on, something that has been built up since ''Burning Crusade'', after two expansions that have been oft criticized as sidestories. Even with all these crowd-pleasers, however, only time will tell if it can WinBackTheCrowd the way ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' managed to.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Legion'', through and through, such that one Reddit commenter called it the "In case of emergency, break glass" expansion. Artifact weapons and the chance to obtain the long sought-after ''[[InfinityPlusOneSword Ashbringer]]''. Illidan is alive again, and with any luck he'll get that redemption story the fans have longed for. The elven races of either faction, the Night Elves and Blood Elves are all slated to get some focus after two entire expansions spent DemotedToExtra. Demon Hunters are finally becoming a playable hero class. Class and spec identity is being advertised as a big focus, with some specs getting completely new focuses to make them more unique, after an expansion of pragmatic ability cuts for space; this also includes player characters joining factions limited to their own class, with potential for class-specific quests. As the backdrop, we finally get to face the long-awaited return of the Burning Legion head-on, something that has been built up since ''Burning Crusade'', after two expansions that have been oft criticized as sidestories. The setting is basically Northrend II + the WotA trilogy. Even with all these crowd-pleasers, however, only time will tell if it can WinBackTheCrowd the way ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' managed to.
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