History YMMV / WorldofWarcraft

22nd Jun '16 8:16:40 PM shatterstar
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** Anduin Wrynn as well. He went from placeholder boy-king in Wrath to somehow a MessianicArchetype in Cata and especially in Mists. Not only that, but thanks to Velen's short story, he's prophesied to be ''the savior of the Warcraft metastory in its entirety'' as the leader of the "Army of Light." He makes Go'el seem tame. He's also the person you're following around as an Alliance character for much of Mists. It really annoyed the fanbase, seeing that he took up a lion's share of the narrative focus that could have been spent on other people. Although he is more of a BaseBreaker because the fanbase considering his relationship with Wrathion, an EnsembleDarkhorse black dragon, to be well-written in all of their appearance.

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** Anduin Wrynn as well. He went from placeholder boy-king in Wrath to somehow a MessianicArchetype in Cata and especially in Mists. Not only that, but thanks to Velen's short story, he's prophesied to be ''the savior of the Warcraft metastory in its entirety'' as the leader of the "Army of Light." He makes Go'el seem tame. He's also the person you're following around as an Alliance character for much of Mists. It really annoyed the fanbase, seeing that he took up a lion's share of the narrative focus that could have been spent on other people. Although he is more of a BaseBreaker because the fanbase considering consider his relationship with Wrathion, an EnsembleDarkhorse black dragon, EnsembleDarkhorse, to be well-written in all of their appearance.appearances and easily brings out the most interesting aspect of both characters.
22nd Jun '16 8:10:11 PM shatterstar
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** Anduin Wrynn as well. He went from placeholder boy-king in Wrath to somehow a MessianicArchetype in Cata and especially in Mists. Not only that, but thanks to Velen's short story, he's prophesied to be ''the savior of the Warcraft metastory in its entirety'' as the leader of the "Army of Light." He makes Go'el seem tame. He's also the person you're following around as an Alliance character for much of Mists. It really annoyed the fanbase, seeing that he took up a lion's share of the narrative focus that could have been spent on other people.

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** Anduin Wrynn as well. He went from placeholder boy-king in Wrath to somehow a MessianicArchetype in Cata and especially in Mists. Not only that, but thanks to Velen's short story, he's prophesied to be ''the savior of the Warcraft metastory in its entirety'' as the leader of the "Army of Light." He makes Go'el seem tame. He's also the person you're following around as an Alliance character for much of Mists. It really annoyed the fanbase, seeing that he took up a lion's share of the narrative focus that could have been spent on other people. Although he is more of a BaseBreaker because the fanbase considering his relationship with Wrathion, an EnsembleDarkhorse black dragon, to be well-written in all of their appearance.
6th Jun '16 5:06:43 AM cricri3007
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** Chromie, a member of the Bronze Dragonflight whose humanoïd apperance is of a female Gnome, was initially a one-note questgiver in Andorhal but was popular enough to return in Wrath of the Lich King and to be included in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''.
5th Jun '16 9:03:00 AM Theokal3
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* MemeticLoser: Garrosh Hellscream may not be very bright, but fans take it and turn it into "Stupider than a sack of lobotomized rock hammer hillbilly retards" seemingly out of spite. This includes jokes like being politically outmaneuvered by a basic campfire (now known as [[MemeticMutation Abesik Kampfyr]]), thinking that [[http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/09/18/ask-a-faction-leader-garrosh-hellscream/ tying a large rock to himself and jumping into shark-infest water after throwing chum in it]] is a good idea. [[http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6470987401?page=1 not being able to spell pleased]].

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* MemeticLoser: Garrosh Hellscream may not be very bright, but fans take it and turn it into "Stupider than a sack of lobotomized rock hammer hillbilly retards" seemingly out of spite. This includes jokes like being politically outmaneuvered by a basic campfire (now known as [[MemeticMutation Abesik Kampfyr]]), thinking that [[http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/09/18/ask-a-faction-leader-garrosh-hellscream/ tying a large rock to himself and jumping into shark-infest water after throwing chum in it]] is a good idea. idea, and [[http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6470987401?page=1 not being able to spell pleased]].
5th Jun '16 9:01:26 AM Theokal3
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* MemeticLoser: Garrosh Hellscream may not be very bright, but fans take it and turn it into "Stupider than a sack of lobotomized rock hammer hillbilly retards" seemingly out of spite. This includes jokes like being politically outmaneuvered by a basic campfire (now known as [[MemeticMutation Abesik Kampfyr]], thinking that [[http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/09/18/ask-a-faction-leader-garrosh-hellscream/ tying a large rock to himself and jumping into shark-infest water after throwing chum in it]] is a good idea. [[http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6470987401?page=1 not being able to spell pleased]].

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* MemeticLoser: Garrosh Hellscream may not be very bright, but fans take it and turn it into "Stupider than a sack of lobotomized rock hammer hillbilly retards" seemingly out of spite. This includes jokes like being politically outmaneuvered by a basic campfire (now known as [[MemeticMutation Abesik Kampfyr]], Kampfyr]]), thinking that [[http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/09/18/ask-a-faction-leader-garrosh-hellscream/ tying a large rock to himself and jumping into shark-infest water after throwing chum in it]] is a good idea. [[http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6470987401?page=1 not being able to spell pleased]].
24th May '16 6:26:32 AM Austin
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* CreatorsPet: Many in the playerbase grew to dislike Garrosh as he rose in prominence during the events of ''Wrath of the Lich King'', and when it was announced that he would replace well-loved Thrall as the Warchief of the Horde in ''Cataclysm'' fan response was pretty predictable. Now there are many questgiving {{Non Player Character}}s who will praise Garrosh for his bellicose manner and warmongering foreign policies. That there are a few [=NPC=]s who will express concern about this gives fans a few straws to cling to.
** Thrall himself fell victim to this to some extent, as ''Cataclysm'' marched on. Even some of his diehard fans started to get tired of his being the anointed chosen one in every situation, whether it makes sense to the plot or not. Being the lead writer's admitted favorite character isn't helping.
** Lead quest designer Dave "Fargo" Kosak's pet seems to be Sylvanas Windrunner. From ''Cataclysm'' on, she takes an active role in her quest for world domination, which by itself wasn't the issue. The problem fans saw was that no matter what she did, she always won. The revamped quest lines involved the Forsaken basically destroying every and all Alliance forces in Lordaeron, they won the Battle of Andorhol, after losing most of it, at the last minute because Sylvanas brought in Val'kyr. They killed the Prince of Stromgarde and now have a strong foothold in the Arathi Highlands (while the Alliance remain in unaltered hole). The real [[BrokenBase point of contention]] is that the Forsaken had the end of the Worgen storyline (in Silverpine) instead of the actual Worgen players (who were merged with the night elves). Her methods of victory is always "Throw plague at it, raise the remains," [[EvenEvilHasStandards an action many, including Garrosh, call her out on]]. And she has suffered literally no consequences, the only one really being that Lor'themar distancing the blood elves from the Forsaken, and even that doesn't count for much because by this point nothing has been seen to actually work on Sylvanas so it's unlikely she even needs the blood elves (who need her support to keep the plaguelands away from Silvermoon).
** Several of Richard Knaak's characters.
*** Rhonin: He becomes leader of the Kirin Tor over several better candidates. He marries one of the Windrunner sisters and gets to be connected to that famous high elven family. He gets to travel back in time and fight the Burning Legion. Though the backlash over him may be why he was KilledOffForReal in Tides of War.
*** Jarod Shadowsong: Some see him as being shoe-horned into the setting in the Warcraft novel Wolfheart. He's Maiev's brother, Shandris' love interest, friend to every major Night Elf character and a military commander whose skill borders on MartyTzu quality.
** Varian Wrynn ever since Cataclysm. Back in Wrath, he was portrayed as an impulsive hothead who would rather let an Old God overrun a continent than work with the Horde, and tried reigniting a world war in the middle of the Undercity by attacking ''Thrall.'' One expansion and a rather coldly recieved book (Wolfheart) later, and he's basically one of the most measured and respected world leaders (in-game) there is, and suddenly the whole Alliance revolves around him. People on both sides were not pleased. [[WeWantOurJerkBack And they still aren't]]. For context's sake, he told off Tyrande, the Night Elf leader with ten thousand years of combat experience, and came up with a better battle strategy on the spot. He has also been coronated as High King of the Alliance, basically overriding all other leaders in the faction while far too many of them extoll his virtues baselessly. Probably the worst example comes from the book Wolfheart though, where Varian wins a battle and the loyalty of the entire nation of Gineas by essentially being shown as the avatar of Goldrinn (Lo'gosh), the wolf ancient. Not only does this make him the vessel of a demigod, it also happens to be a demigod that has almost nothing to do with his race.
** Anduin Wrynn as well. He went from placeholder boy-king in Wrath to somehow a MessianicArchetype in Cata and especially in Mists. Not only that, but thanks to Velen's short story, he's prophesied to be ''the savior of the Warcraft metastory in its entirety'' as the leader of the "Army of Light." He makes Go'el seem tame. He's also the person you're following around as an Alliance character for much of Mists. It really annoyed the fanbase, seeing that he took up a lion's share of the narrative focus that could have been spent on other people.
23rd May '16 11:40:56 PM Phoenixion
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* {{Moe}}: Mylune, a Dryad with PuppyDogEyes that gives you quests to save the critters that roam around a burning forest. She even ''squees.''

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Mylune, a Dryad with PuppyDogEyes that gives you quests to save the critters that roam around a burning forest. She even ''squees.''''
** In general, female gnomes are really, ''really'' cute.
18th May '16 11:23:06 AM MinisterOfSinister
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** Astalor Bloodsworn, for his treatment of his former apprentice [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Kaelynara]] (and what happened because of it). It's got to the point that some people want to find a way to kill him. The Tear-Stained Letter he sent her [[http://www.wowhead.com/item=110667]] is considered a major TearJerker.

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** Astalor Bloodsworn, for his treatment of his former apprentice [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds his former apprentice Kaelynara]] (and and what happened because of it).it. It's got to the point that some people want to find a way to kill him. The Tear-Stained Letter he sent her [[http://www.wowhead.com/item=110667]] com/item=110667 Tear-Stained Letter]] he sent her is considered a major TearJerker.TearJerker and Astalor himself is by and large considered a jerk now.
6th May '16 7:04:38 PM CynicalPeafowl
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** Some fans aren't happy that lore books and ''Legion'' reveals that the Dragons have gone sterile, given how important the Dragons are in the franchise. That this is apparently an aftereffect of the aspects using the Dragon Soul to kill Deathwing makes it even worse, while a lot of fans are fine with the aspects losing their immortality and immense power, they feel like putting all dragons on the extinction clock is just blatantly unfair.

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** Some fans aren't happy that lore books and ''Legion'' reveals that [[spoiler:that the Dragons have gone sterile, given how important the Dragons are in the franchise. That this is apparently an aftereffect of the aspects using the Dragon Soul to kill Deathwing makes it even worse, while a lot of fans are fine with the aspects losing their immortality and immense power, they feel like putting all dragons on the extinction clock is just blatantly unfair.unfair]]
**Some fans of Vol'jin aren't happy with the datamined news that [[spoiler:He dies in Legion after succumbing to his wounds and in his place Sylvanas has been named new Warchief of the Horde, claiming that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter]], as Vol'jin did very little after becoming Warchief at the end of Mists of Pandaria and would have liked to see him do more]]



** Varian/Garrosh is the fandom's favouite non-serious ship.

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** Varian/Garrosh is the fandom's favouite favourite non-serious ship.
2nd May '16 3:03:01 AM NaraNumas
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* Some fans aren't happy that lore books and ''Legion'' reveals that the Dragons have gone sterile, given how important the Dragons are in the franchise. That this is apparently an aftereffect of the aspects using the Dragon Soul to kill Deathwing makes it even worse, while a lot of fans are fine with the aspects losing their immortality and immense power, they feel like putting all dragons on the extinction clock is just blatantly unfair.

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* ** Some fans aren't happy that lore books and ''Legion'' reveals that the Dragons have gone sterile, given how important the Dragons are in the franchise. That this is apparently an aftereffect of the aspects using the Dragon Soul to kill Deathwing makes it even worse, while a lot of fans are fine with the aspects losing their immortality and immense power, they feel like putting all dragons on the extinction clock is just blatantly unfair.
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