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5th Apr '16 9:53:16 AM overman2099
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** ''Hydra'' also got a mixed reception. While professional reviews were mostly kind to the album, opinions on social media were much more varied, with fans praising them for trying new things and experimenting with their sound but critics saying the band had strayed just a little too far from the symphonic/gothic metal sound that made them what they are today and that trying to combine their sound with rap and metalcore came off really awkward and forced.
13th Feb '16 12:33:36 AM spirasen
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The entirety of "Black Symphony," hands down, is the embodiment of this trope.



** Amusingly discussed in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM_vSO78_qE this video]].

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** Amusingly discussed in [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM_vSO78_qE this video]].video.]]



* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Picture this [[http://i.imgur.com/1m3d4jv.jpg image]] on the cover of ''Mother Earth''.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: EarWorm: ''The Unforgiving'' has it in spades; "Shot in the Dark," "Murder," "Iron," "Sinead," "Where is the Edge," "Faster," and "In the Middle of the Night."
* EightiesHair: The most well-known ''Mother Earth'' cover. It was released in ''2000.''
* FaceOfTheBand: That would be Sharon.
* FandomRivalry: They're not even in the same subgenre but ''Music/{{Evanescence}}'' fans often get into fights with [=WT=] fans.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
Picture this [[http://i.imgur.com/1m3d4jv.jpg image]] on the cover of ''Mother Earth''.Earth.''



** The band has actually re-tweeted fanart from Sharja (Sharon/[[Music/TarjaTurunen Tarja]]) fans, which lead to a "That's so awesome / Oh, god, what have we done?!" moment for fans.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming; In "Our Farewell:" "Because my child, this is not our farewell."
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The entirety of "Black Symphony," hands down, is the embodiment of this trope.
** "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz2qeb_0Se8 Iron]]" from ''The Unforgiving''. Badass riff, epic lyrics, blistering solo and an amazing "[[Music/BonJovi Living on a Prayer]]"-esque key change for the last chorus.
** The duet with [[Music/TarjaTurunen Tarja]], and the accompanying [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6MpsDPKts music video]].
* EarWorm: ''The Unforgiving'' has it in spades; "Shot in the Dark," "Murder," "Iron," "Sinéad," "Where is the Edge," "Faster," "In the Middle of the Night"...
* EightiesHair: The most well-known ''Mother Earth'' cover. It was released in ''2000''.
* FaceOfTheBand: That would be Sharon.
* FandomRivalry: They're not even in the same subgenre but ''Music/{{Evanescence}}'' fans often get into fights with [=WT=] fans.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Very popular in Japan, to the point where their album ''The Unforgiving'' has three special bonus tracks recorded exclusively for the [[UsefulNotes/{{Japan}} Japanese]] CD.

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** The band has actually re-tweeted fanart from Sharja (Sharon/[[Music/TarjaTurunen (Sharon/ [[Music/TarjaTurunen Tarja]]) fans, which lead to a "That's so awesome / Oh, god, what have we done?!" moment for fans.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming; In "Our Farewell:" "Because my child, this is not our farewell."
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The entirety of "Black Symphony," hands down, is the embodiment of this trope.
** "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz2qeb_0Se8 Iron]]" from ''The Unforgiving''. Badass riff, epic lyrics, blistering solo and an amazing "[[Music/BonJovi Living on a Prayer]]"-esque key change for the last chorus.
** The duet with [[Music/TarjaTurunen Tarja]], and the accompanying [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6MpsDPKts music video]].
* EarWorm: ''The Unforgiving'' has it in spades; "Shot in the Dark," "Murder," "Iron," "Sinéad," "Where is the Edge," "Faster," "In the Middle of the Night"...
* EightiesHair: The most well-known ''Mother Earth'' cover. It was released in ''2000''.
* FaceOfTheBand: That would be Sharon.
* FandomRivalry: They're not even in the same subgenre but ''Music/{{Evanescence}}'' fans often get into fights with [=WT=] fans.
*
GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Very popular in Japan, UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}, to the point where their album ''The Unforgiving'' has three special bonus tracks recorded exclusively for the [[UsefulNotes/{{Japan}} Japanese]] CD.



* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments; In "Our Farewell:" "Because my child, this is not our farewell."
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz2qeb_0Se8 Iron]]" from ''The Unforgiving''. Badass riff, epic lyrics, blistering solo and an amazing "[[Music/BonJovi Living on a Prayer]]"-esque key change for the last chorus.
** The duet with [[Music/TarjaTurunen Tarja]], and the accompanying [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6MpsDPKts music video.]]



* LesYay: Anneke van Giersbergen & Sharon singing "Somewhere" to each other at the ''Black Symphony'' concert.
** Music/TarjaTurunen and Sharon have ''boatloads'' of it in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6MpsDPKts video]] for "Paradise (What About Us?)" They give each other [[MeaningfulLook longing looks]], smile coyly, stand really close to each other (to the point where Tarja's hair keeps blowing in Sharon's face)... And it all culminates in the two of them dressed in flowing gowns, holding hands and singing to each other.

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* LesYay: [[HoYay Les Yay]]: Anneke van Giersbergen & Sharon singing "Somewhere" to each other at the ''Black Symphony'' concert.
** Music/TarjaTurunen and Sharon have ''boatloads'' of it in the [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6MpsDPKts video]] for "Paradise (What About Us?)" They give each other [[MeaningfulLook longing looks]], looks,]] smile coyly, stand really close to each other (to the point where Tarja's hair keeps blowing in Sharon's face)... And it all culminates in the two of them dressed in flowing gowns, holding hands and singing to each other.



* MemeticMutation: In a bit of BorrowedCatchphrase, some fans [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/posts/10152106599402986 have]] [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/posts/10152119544597986 taken]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvemEVzjKz4 to]] [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/photos/a.10151060963672986.426494.7185342985/10152112323977986/ posting]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier Hail Hydra]] comments on their videos and on their Facebook page. [[http://cheezburger.com/8223350016 Among other places]].
* NarmCharm: While their music is generally serious and of high quality, their music videos (at least until ''The Unforgiving'') are... decidedly not.
* SignatureSong: All of their concerts typically end with "Ice Queen." Despite this their most popular is "What Have You Done Now".
* SoBadItsGood: "Ice Queen" is one of their signature songs, the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmLIE6ULtyU video]] on [[SpecialEffectFailure the other]] [[ConspicuousCGI hand]]...

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* MemeticMutation: In a bit of BorrowedCatchphrase, some fans [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/posts/10152106599402986 have]] [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/posts/10152119544597986 taken]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvemEVzjKz4 to]] [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/photos/a.10151060963672986.426494.7185342985/10152112323977986/ posting]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier Hail Hydra]] comments on their videos and on their Facebook page. [[http://cheezburger.com/8223350016 Among other places]].
places.]]
* NarmCharm: While their music is generally serious and of high quality, their music videos (at least until ''The Unforgiving'') are... decidedly Decidedly not.
* SignatureSong: All of their concerts typically end with "Ice Queen." Despite this their most popular is "What Have You Done Now".
Now."
* SoBadItsGood: "Ice Queen" is one of their signature songs, the [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmLIE6ULtyU video]] on [[SpecialEffectFailure the other]] [[ConspicuousCGI hand]]...



-->''So, we've been going like: "Ooooh we have re-written Wicked Games" and then "No, the chords scheme is different, we don't have to worry. And it's a written song!" (laughs) "Yay!".''

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-->''So, we've been going like: "Ooooh we have re-written Wicked Games" and then "No, the chords scheme is different, we don't have to worry. And it's a written song!" (laughs) "Yay!".''"Yay!"''



** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AY7hYQ8-FM Utopia]] takes this UpToEleven.

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** [[http://www."[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AY7hYQ8-FM Utopia]] Utopia]]" takes this UpToEleven.



** AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Critical and fan reception to the decision was largely positive upon the album's release, however.

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** AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Critical and fan reception to the decision was largely positive upon the album's release, however.however.
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8th Feb '16 3:50:18 AM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: Fan opinion is heavily divided on which of their albums is the best, although ''Hydra'' can be considered this critically speaking.
12th Oct '15 3:34:17 AM Adept
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* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Big In Japan]]: To the point where their album ''The Unforgiving'' has three special bonus tracks recorded exclusively for the [[UsefulNotes/{{Japan}} Japanese]] CD.


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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Very popular in Japan, to the point where their album ''The Unforgiving'' has three special bonus tracks recorded exclusively for the [[UsefulNotes/{{Japan}} Japanese]] CD.
4th Oct '15 11:33:20 PM Pichu-kun
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* FandomRivalry: They're not even in the same subgenre but ''Music/{{Evanescence}}'' fans often get into fights with [=WT=] fans.



* HilariousInHindsight: The male guest vocalist on "What Have You Done?," Keith Caputo came out as transgender in 2011 and after undergoing gender reassignment surgery, now goes by Mina Caputo.
* InternetBackdraft: Many of their videos on Website/YouTube will consist of comments comparing the vocals of Sharon and [[Music/{{Evanescence}} Amy Lee]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: The male guest vocalist on "What Have You Done?," Keith Caputo came out as transgender in 2011 and after undergoing gender reassignment surgery, now goes by Mina Caputo.
* InternetBackdraft: Many of their videos on Website/YouTube will consist of comments comparing
Caputo, which makes fans [[BlackSheepHit disliking the vocals of Sharon and [[Music/{{Evanescence}} Amy Lee]].song]] for having a male singer pretty interesting.



* SignatureSong: All of their concerts typically end with "Ice Queen."

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* SignatureSong: All of their concerts typically end with "Ice Queen."" Despite this their most popular is "What Have You Done Now".
18th Feb '15 8:38:49 AM EvilPanda
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* MemeticMutation: In a bit of BorrowedCatchphrase, some fans have taken to posting [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier Hail Hydra]] comments on their videos and on their Facebook page.

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* MemeticMutation: In a bit of BorrowedCatchphrase, some fans have taken to posting [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/posts/10152106599402986 have]] [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/posts/10152119544597986 taken]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvemEVzjKz4 to]] [[https://www.facebook.com/wtofficial/photos/a.10151060963672986.426494.7185342985/10152112323977986/ posting]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier Hail Hydra]] comments on their videos and on their Facebook page.page. [[http://cheezburger.com/8223350016 Among other places]].
18th Feb '15 8:34:32 AM EvilPanda
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* MemeticMutation: In a bit of BorrowedCatchphrase, some fans have taken to posting [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier Hail Hydra]] comments on their videos and on their Facebook page.
2nd Feb '15 7:28:58 PM spirasen
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* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Big In Japan]]: To the point where their album ''The Unforgiving'' has three special bonus tracks recorded exclusively for the Japanese CD.

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* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Big In Japan]]: To the point where their album ''The Unforgiving'' has three special bonus tracks recorded exclusively for the Japanese [[UsefulNotes/{{Japan}} Japanese]] CD.
2nd Feb '15 7:27:44 PM spirasen
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* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Big In Japan]]: To the point where their album "The Unforgiving" has three special bonus tracks recorded exclusively for the Japanese CD.
* BrokenBase: They seem to be bracing themselves for this in the wake of using fewer orchestral sounds and more 80's pop elements in The Unforgiving; their website implies that the first preview song was the more traditional WT song Where Is The Edge (rather than the first single, Faster) as a reassurance to old fans that the old style isn't completely gone. A year after the release seems to suggest that this was averted, with it tied with ''Enter'' for their highest rated album on Sputnik Music.

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* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Big In Japan]]: To the point where their album "The Unforgiving" ''The Unforgiving'' has three special bonus tracks recorded exclusively for the Japanese CD.
* BrokenBase: They seem to be bracing themselves for this in the wake of using fewer orchestral sounds and more 80's '80s pop elements in The Unforgiving; ''The Unforgiving''; their website implies that the first preview song was the more traditional WT song Where Is The Edge "Where is the Edge" (rather than the first single, Faster) "Faster") as a reassurance to old fans that the old style isn't completely gone. A year after the release seems to suggest that this was averted, with it tied with ''Enter'' for their highest rated album on Sputnik Music.



* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Picture this [[http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/24900000/The-promotional-photos-of-Mother-Earth-within-temptation-24999303-480-480.jpg image]] on the cover of ''Mother Earth''.
** "Gothic Christmas":

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Picture this [[http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/24900000/The-promotional-photos-of-Mother-Earth-within-temptation-24999303-480-480.[[http://i.imgur.com/1m3d4jv.jpg image]] on the cover of ''Mother Earth''.
** "Gothic Christmas":Christmas:"



-->Cause “Rudolph” just sounds really lame
-->Now we’ll call him Ragnagord,

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-->Cause “Rudolph” -->'Cause "Rudolph" just sounds really lame
-->Now we’ll we'll call him Ragnagord,



** The band has actually retweeted fanart from Sharja (Sharon/Tarja) fans, which lead to a "That's so awesome/Oh, god, what have we done?!" moment for fans.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In "Our Farewell": "Because my child, this is not our farewell."
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The entirety of ''Black Symphony'', hands down, is the embodiment of this trope.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz2qeb_0Se8 "Iron"]] from "The Unforgiving." Badass riff, epic lyrics, blistering solo and an amazing "Living On A Prayer"-esque key change for the last chorus.
** The duet with [[TarjaTurunen Tarja]], and the accompanying [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zim1Zp47m-c music video]].
* EarWorm: The Unforgiving has it in spades; Shot In The Dark, Murder, Iron, Sinéad, Where Is The Edge, Faster, In The Middle Of The Night...
* EightiesHair: The most well-known Mother Earth cover. It was released in ''2000''.

to:

** The band has actually retweeted re-tweeted fanart from Sharja (Sharon/Tarja) (Sharon/[[Music/TarjaTurunen Tarja]]) fans, which lead to a "That's so awesome/Oh, awesome / Oh, god, what have we done?!" moment for fans.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming; In "Our Farewell": Farewell:" "Because my child, this is not our farewell."
"
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The entirety of ''Black Symphony'', "Black Symphony," hands down, is the embodiment of this trope.
** [[http://www."[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz2qeb_0Se8 "Iron"]] Iron]]" from "The Unforgiving." ''The Unforgiving''. Badass riff, epic lyrics, blistering solo and an amazing "Living On A Prayer"-esque "[[Music/BonJovi Living on a Prayer]]"-esque key change for the last chorus.
** The duet with [[TarjaTurunen [[Music/TarjaTurunen Tarja]], and the accompanying [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zim1Zp47m-c com/watch?v=Dy6MpsDPKts music video]].
* EarWorm: The Unforgiving ''The Unforgiving'' has it in spades; Shot In The Dark, Murder, Iron, Sinéad, Where Is The Edge, Faster, In The "Shot in the Dark," "Murder," "Iron," "Sinéad," "Where is the Edge," "Faster," "In the Middle Of The Night...
of the Night"...
* EightiesHair: The most well-known Mother Earth ''Mother Earth'' cover. It was released in ''2000''.



* GrowingTheBeard: Within Temptation's sound gets noticeably more mature and more complex around the time of "The Silent Force," with "The Heart of Everything" being even better and "The Unforgiving" earning its place as a RockOpera. They go for a more subtle approach to fantasy and take on a lot more serious issues, at the same time.
* HilariousInHindsight: The male guest vocalist on "What Have You Done?", Keith Caputo came out as transgender in 2011 and after undergoing gender reassignment surgery, now goes by Mina Caputo.
* InternetBackdraft: Many of their videos on YouTube will consist of comments comparing the vocals of Sharon and [[{{Music/Evanescence}} Amy Lee]].
* LesYay: Anneke van Giesbergen & Sharon singing "Somewhere" to each other at the Black Symphony concert.
** TarjaTurunen and Sharon have ''boatloads'' of it in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zim1Zp47m-c video]] for "Paradise (What About Us?)" They give each other [[MeaningfulLook longing looks]], smile coyly, stand really close to each other (to the point where Tarja's hair keeps blowing in Sharon's face)... And it all culminates in the two of them dressed in flowing gowns, holding hands and singing to each other.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Within Temptation's sound gets noticeably more mature and more complex around the time of "The ''The Silent Force," Force'', with "The ''The Heart of Everything" Everything'' being even better and "The Unforgiving" ''The Unforgiving'' earning its place as a RockOpera. They go for a more subtle approach to fantasy and take on a lot more serious issues, at the same time.
* HilariousInHindsight: The male guest vocalist on "What Have You Done?", Done?," Keith Caputo came out as transgender in 2011 and after undergoing gender reassignment surgery, now goes by Mina Caputo.
Caputo.
* InternetBackdraft: Many of their videos on YouTube Website/YouTube will consist of comments comparing the vocals of Sharon and [[{{Music/Evanescence}} [[Music/{{Evanescence}} Amy Lee]].
* LesYay: Anneke van Giesbergen Giersbergen & Sharon singing "Somewhere" to each other at the Black Symphony ''Black Symphony'' concert.
** TarjaTurunen Music/TarjaTurunen and Sharon have ''boatloads'' of it in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zim1Zp47m-c com/watch?v=Dy6MpsDPKts video]] for "Paradise (What About Us?)" They give each other [[MeaningfulLook longing looks]], smile coyly, stand really close to each other (to the point where Tarja's hair keeps blowing in Sharon's face)... And it all culminates in the two of them dressed in flowing gowns, holding hands and singing to each other.



* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Faster" and ChrisIsaak's "Wicked Game". Lampshaded by Sharon herself:

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Faster" and ChrisIsaak's Music/ChrisIsaak's "Wicked Game". Game." Lampshaded by Sharon herself: herself:



** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgqDURxuZo0&ob=av2n Utopia]] takes this UpToEleven.
* WTHCastingAgency: Xzibit is supposed to be on their next album. ''[[http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/within-temptation-will-collaborate-rapper-xzibit-for-some-reason-on-new-record Yes, really.]]''

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgqDURxuZo0&ob=av2n com/watch?v=4AY7hYQ8-FM Utopia]] takes this UpToEleven.
* WTHCastingAgency: Xzibit Music/{{Xzibit}} is supposed to be on their next album. ''[[http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/within-temptation-will-collaborate-rapper-xzibit-for-some-reason-on-new-record ''[[http://tinyurl.com/o5l49bc Yes, really.]]''
2nd Jan '15 11:13:37 AM TwoGunAngel
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* GrowingTheBeard: Within Temptation's sound gets noticeably more mature and more complex around the time of "The Silent Horse," with "The Heart of Everything" being even better and "The Unforgiving" earning its place as a RockOpera. They go for a more subtle approach to fantasy and take on a lot more serious issues, at the same time.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Within Temptation's sound gets noticeably more mature and more complex around the time of "The Silent Horse," Force," with "The Heart of Everything" being even better and "The Unforgiving" earning its place as a RockOpera. They go for a more subtle approach to fantasy and take on a lot more serious issues, at the same time.
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