History YMMV / WingCommander

2nd Aug '16 9:42:22 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* HarsherInHindsight: ''Wing Commander III'' opens on the burning, half-sunken wreck of the ''Concordia'', your flagship from the previous game which is then deemed a "total loss". Come 2012 the ''Costa Concordia'' disaster took place, with the ship similarly marooned and damaged beyond repair off the coast of Tuscany.
20th Jul '16 1:54:35 PM themisterfree
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* SpiritualLicensee: To Universal's previous sci-fi cartoon, ''WesternAnimation/{{Exosquad}}''; indeed, USA Network aired reruns of that show the same time they were airing this one.
7th Jul '16 5:42:04 PM HighCrate
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* TheyJustDidntCare: The actors seem to be attempting to care, and many other aspects seem polished, but misspelling common words (breach) and the names of main characters (Devereaux and Tolwyn) is unforgivable. They also mix up actors Tcheky Karyo and Jurgen Prochnow on the back of the DVD.
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2nd Jun '16 5:16:27 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Ironically, a case where some executive meddling would have made the film ''better.'' [[WordOfGod Roberts]] later said that in hindsight, he wished he'd had an executive producer who could have told him the elements of the film that were distracting from the core story and needed to be removed, especially on the tight budget ($27 million, expanded to $30 million after Roberts kicked in an additional $3 million out-of-pocket).

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Ironically, Unusually, a case where some executive meddling would have made the film ''better.'' [[WordOfGod Roberts]] later said that in hindsight, he wished he'd had an executive producer who could have told him the elements of the film that were distracting from the core story and needed to be removed, especially on the tight budget ($27 million, expanded to $30 million after Roberts kicked in an additional $3 million out-of-pocket).
2nd Jun '16 5:16:15 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Ironically, a case where some executive meddling would have made the film ''better.'' [[WordOfGod Roberts]] later said that in hindsight, he wished he'd had an executive producer who could have told him the elements of the film that were distracting from the core story and needed to be removed, especially on the tight budget ($27 million, expanded to $30 million after Roberts kicked in an additional $3 million out-of-pocket).
21st Apr '16 1:33:20 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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\n* WTHCostumingDepartment: The Kilrathi look ''nothing'' like their video game counterparts and in fact are visibly ''furless''. Chris Roberts himself admits that he was satisfied with neither their look in the games or their redesigned appearance in the film.

18th Jan '16 11:54:17 AM CharlesPhipps
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* ThatOneLevel:
** Anything dealing with flying through a mine cluster in a ''Wing Commander'' game. You have to maneuver ''painfully slowly'' through these if you want to make it through. At least you can shoot {{Asteroid|Thicket}}s out of your way. [[DontTryThisAtHome Try the same with a space mine]] and...''BOOM!'' [[FinalDeath Twenty-one gun salute city for you]].
** There's also the mission with cloaking torpedoes in ''Wing Commander III''. Don't stray from that capital ship, or you'll miss the torpedo, and the mission becomes a failure.
** The infamous Kurasawa-2 mission in ''Wing Commander''. Yes, the one with Ralari defense (you have about ten seconds to destroy 4 heavy cat fighters, or else the craft you're supposed to be protecting goes boom). If you do manage to protect the captured enemy cruiser, you are sent straight to the victorious ending mission sequence. [[RammingAlwaysWorks Ramming the enemy fighters works wonders, it turns out.]]

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* ThatOneLevel:
** Anything dealing with flying through a mine cluster in a ''Wing Commander'' game. You have to maneuver ''painfully slowly'' through these if you want to make it through. At least you can shoot {{Asteroid|Thicket}}s out of your way. [[DontTryThisAtHome Try the same with a space mine]] and...''BOOM!'' [[FinalDeath Twenty-one gun salute city for you]].
** There's also the mission with cloaking torpedoes in ''Wing Commander III''. Don't stray from that capital ship, or you'll miss the torpedo, and the mission becomes a failure.
** The infamous Kurasawa-2 mission in ''Wing Commander''. Yes, the one with Ralari defense (you have about ten seconds to destroy 4 heavy cat fighters, or else the craft you're supposed to be protecting goes boom). If you do manage to protect the captured enemy cruiser, you are sent straight to the victorious ending mission sequence. [[RammingAlwaysWorks Ramming the enemy fighters works wonders, it turns out.]]
18th Jan '16 11:52:48 AM CharlesPhipps
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Hobbes a SleeperAgent or [[NotWhatISignedOnFor a willful deserter]] (''[[HeelFaceTurn Both]]'' [[FaceHeelTurn times]])? [[TakeAThirdOption Or maybe a little of both?]]
* DemonicSpiders: The Jalthis in ''Wing Commander'' may be slow, but their six-gun attacks are deadly, making escort missions very difficult.
* FanDislikedExplanation: The reason for Hobbes' FaceHeelTurn, that he was a SleeperAgent who was awakened by Thrakhath's use of "[[TitleDrop The Heart of the Tiger]]" in reference to Blair.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Hobbes a SleeperAgent or [[NotWhatISignedOnFor a willful deserter]] (''[[HeelFaceTurn Both]]'' [[FaceHeelTurn times]])? [[TakeAThirdOption Or maybe a little of both?]]
* DemonicSpiders: The Jalthis in ''Wing Commander'' may be slow, but their six-gun attacks are deadly, making escort missions very difficult.
* FanDislikedExplanation: The reason for Hobbes' FaceHeelTurn, that he was a SleeperAgent who was awakened by Thrakhath's use of "[[TitleDrop The Heart of the Tiger]]" in reference to Blair.



** A lot of people like to pretend the FaceHeelTurn by Hobbes due to his being a SleeperAgent either never happened or else had [[EarthShatteringKaboom a different]] [[NotWhatISignedOnFor justification]].



* ItWasHisSled: Tolwyn instigated the events of ''Wing Commander IV''. The game plays it up as a mystery, but everyone knows it by now.
16th Jan '16 8:15:54 PM CharlesPhipps
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* BrokenBase. ''Privateer 2: The Darkening''. It was for many people a glitched-up mess, but the cutscenes were done really well.



** You almost ''never'' hear ''Privateer 2'' being shoved into this. Despite the fact it wasn't originally (pun unintended) meant to be a part of the Wing Commander universe.



* NarmCharm: The otherwise excellent scene with Reinhart in ''Privateer 2'' can be this every time Creator/ChristopherWalken opens his mouth. Especially that "''bra''-vo" at the beginning. Of the other hand, he generally does his job well. Especially near the end when he freaks out. When [[CreepyAwesome Christopher Walken]] freaks out, you believe it.
* OneSceneWonder: Reinhart (Creator/DavidWarner) in ''Privateer 2''. A captured FauxAffablyEvil Kindred leader who give a spectacular ExpoSpeak concerning the game's amnesiac protgonist's identity. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6UEXAmc68&list=HL1379098180 Behold one of the greatest performances in video game acting]].
--> '''Lev''': ''Whoever I was, I've changed.''\\
'''Reinhart''': ''People don't change that much. Some are born wolf. Some are sheep. You might be wearing sheep's clothing, but your fangs are showing through.''\\
'''Lev''': ''Yeah, well. Maybe losing my memory was the best thing that could've happened to me. It's given me a chance to choose who I am.''\\
'''Reinhart''': ''My god, this is almost becoming like a religious experience. Forget it. As soon as your old memories returns, you will get back to what you used to be; Your father's son.''



* UnwinnableByInsanity: In ''Privateer'', if you manage to run out of jump drive fuel, you'd better hope you're in a system where there are stations and/or planets to land on. If that's not the case? You'll be forced to quit and restart the game from a previous save that you hopefully have not erased yet, especially if it's for an important mission.

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* UnwinnableByInsanity: In ''Privateer'', if you manage to run out of jump drive fuel, you'd better hope you're in a system where there are stations and/or planets to land on. If that's not the case? You'll be forced to quit and restart the game from a previous save that you hopefully have not erased yet, especially if it's for an important mission.
12th Dec '15 6:39:22 PM MisterCPC
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* HilariousInHindsight: Blair in the video games was portrayed by Creator/MarkHamill, best known for playing a [[Franchise/StarWars Jedi]]. Blair in the film is played by Freddie Prinze Jr., who would [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels go on to play a Jedi]].
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