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* BrokenAesop: Bowman, Kestrel, and their friend Mumpo spend the first book learning that if they work together, they can make things happen and nothing can hurt them. In the book's two parallel plots, the twin's father convinces downtrodden people that they need to stand up and peacefully insist on being given their rights, and their mother makes her views heard and gets the town to listen to her and consider her ideas. Then... the MacGuffin shows up and makes it all better. Or at least makes them happy for the remainder of the book.
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Now YMMV. Can't tell if YMMV equivalent, Platonic Writing Romantic Reading, applies.
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* BrotherSisterIncest: Kestrel and Bowman seem to love each other a bit too much at times.
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* MarySuetopia: The first book contains Straw Dystopia ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously the readers couldn't accept [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these ten-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
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* MagnificentBastard: The Master (Albard)
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* MarySuetopia: The first book contains Straw Dystopia ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously the readers couldn't accept [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these ten-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
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* StrawDystopia: The first book contains this ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously the readers couldn't accept [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these ten-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
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* StrawDystopia: The first book contains this ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously [[ViewersAreMorons the readers couldn't accept]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these ten-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
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* StrawDystopia: The first book contains this ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously [[ViewersAreMorons the readers couldn't accept]] accept [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these ten-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
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* StrawDystopia: The first book contains this ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously [[ViewersAreMorons the readers couldn't accept]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these seven-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
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* StrawDystopia: The first book contains this ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously [[ViewersAreMorons the readers couldn't accept]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these seven-year-olds ten-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
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* BrotherSisterIncest: Kestrel and Bowman seem to love each other a bit too much.
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* BrotherSisterIncest: Kestrel and Bowman seem to love each other a bit too much.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Ira Hath makes a prophecy [[spoiler:before she dies]] for the Manth travellers as they're about to reach their homeland. This includes telling them who they will marry, and how many children they'll have. Only one or two of them had any inkling of an attraction before this, but of course they really do all end up married to their prophesied partner in the epilogue. Ira may have only been suggesting matches that she had already noticed developing among the group members, but none of these developments were ever shown to the reader.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Ira Hath makes a prophecy [[spoiler:before she dies]] for the Manth travellers as they're about to reach their homeland. This includes telling them who they will marry, and how many children they'll have. Only one or two of them had any inkling of an attraction before this, but of course they really do all end up married to their prophesied partner in the epilogue. Ira may have only been suggesting matches that she had already noticed developing among the group members, but none of these developments were ever shown to the reader.reader.
* StrawDystopia: The first book contains this ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously [[ViewersAreMorons the readers couldn't accept]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these seven-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
* StrawDystopia: The first book contains this ''and'' Straw Utopias. People in the dystopia take tests constantly to determine their aptitudes. Children -- even those only about a year old -- who misbehave in public are given demerits, which affect ''their entire families''' social status. The child who happens to live with an aunt rather than his parents is grubby and socially backward because "he has no one to tell him to wash". Repeat child offenders get sent to live with the "Old Children", even though being touched by one turns you into one of them and this is universally understood to be Not A Good Thing. The government officials basically state that they want to make life hard for the main characters, because obviously [[ViewersAreMorons the readers couldn't accept]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]]. And yet... you have the chance to improve your status based on your own merits, and if you keep your head down and are good at memorizing the information on the standardized tests, you're pretty much left alone. The biggest problem with this government seems to be that it never considered that different people are competent in different areas. Oh, yeah, and that it doesn't accept that "We're only this way because the magic left! When these seven-year-olds bring it back, it will make everything ''all better''. Somehow."
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Ira Hath makes a prophecy [[spoiler:before she dies]] for the Manth travellers as they're about to reach their homeland. This includes telling them who they will marry, and how many children they'll have. Only one or two of them had any inkling of an attraction before this, but of course they really do all end up married to their prophesied partner in the epilogue. Ira [[{{YourMileageMayVary}} may have only been suggesting matches that she had already noticed developing among the group members]], members, but none of these developments were ever shown to the reader.
