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*** Look up any scene with him from the film on [=YouTube=] and see how long it takes before you find a comment joking about how he was only so mad because [[Creator/JKSimmons he]] [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy didn't have pictures of Spider-Man]]. You'd be hard-pressed to come up above 10 seconds.
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*** Look up any scene with him from the film on [=YouTube=] and see how long it takes before you find a comment joking about how he was only so mad because [[Creator/JKSimmons he]] [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy didn't have pictures of Spider-Man]]. You'd be hard-pressed to come up above 10 seconds.
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** Is Fletcher one of the few teachers out there willing to push his students to the limit, or is he an egotistical jerk who goes way too far when he tries to push them and gets mad at them for things that are sometimes completely out of their control? [[WordOfGod Damien Chazelle, the director, believes he is both]]; while Andrew does improve at an incredible pace due to Fletcher's teaching method, his relationship with Fletcher is ultimately an abusive one. Furthermore, did he lie about [[spoiler:Sean Casey's death]] because he wanted to save face or because he felt genuinely ashamed of himself and his methods? Were Fletcher's tears in that scene genuine? And if they were, was he crying out of actual grief or because he lost a potential Charlie Parker?
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** Is Fletcher one of the few teachers out there willing to push his students to the limit, or is he an egotistical jerk who goes way too far when he tries to push them and gets mad at them for things that are sometimes completely out of their control? [[WordOfGod Damien Chazelle, the director, believes he is both]]; while Andrew does improve at an incredible pace due to Fletcher's teaching method, his relationship with Fletcher is ultimately an abusive one.one, and ultimately drives Andrew out of drumming altogether. Furthermore, did he lie about [[spoiler:Sean Casey's death]] because he wanted to save face or because he felt genuinely ashamed of himself and his methods? Were Fletcher's tears in that scene genuine? And if they were, was he crying out of actual grief or because he lost a potential Charlie Parker?
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* CatharsisFactor: After all the suffering Fletcher inflicts on Andrew, he really has his retribution coming, and it's immensely satisfying to see Andrew [[spoiler:[[TheDogBitesBack giving it all back to him]] by tackling him to the floor and trying to [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beat the tar out of him]] -- onstage at a competition, no less. Even though Andrew [[NegatedMomentOfAwesome gets pulled off by other students before he can deliver any hit]], him [[ClusterFBomb cursing out]] Fletcher even while he's being dragged off the scene makes it all the more relieving.]]
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**After all the suffering Fletcher inflicts on Andrew, he really has his retribution coming, and it's immensely satisfying to see Andrew [[spoiler:[[TheDogBitesBack giving it all back to him]] by tackling him to the floor and trying to [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beat the tar out of him]] -- onstage at a competition, no less. Even though Andrew [[NegatedMomentOfAwesome gets pulled off by other students before he can deliver any hit]], him [[ClusterFBomb cursing out]] Fletcher even while he's being dragged off the scene makes it all the more relieving.]]]]
** At the end, when Andrew comes back on stage and starts drumming, Fletcher comes over and angrily promises to gouge his eyes out. Andrew just hits a cymbal into his face to throw him off without missing a beat, throwing off the attempt at revenge. And Fletcher can't do anything except step back and lose control.
**After all the suffering Fletcher inflicts on Andrew, he really has his retribution coming, and it's immensely satisfying to see Andrew [[spoiler:[[TheDogBitesBack giving it all back to him]] by tackling him to the floor and trying to [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beat the tar out of him]] -- onstage at a competition, no less. Even though Andrew [[NegatedMomentOfAwesome gets pulled off by other students before he can deliver any hit]], him [[ClusterFBomb cursing out]] Fletcher even while he's being dragged off the scene makes it all the more relieving.
** At the end, when Andrew comes back on stage and starts drumming, Fletcher comes over and angrily promises to gouge his eyes out. Andrew just hits a cymbal into his face to throw him off without missing a beat, throwing off the attempt at revenge. And Fletcher can't do anything except step back and lose control.
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* WatchItForTheMeme: Given the sheer amount of memes that the film generated, there is a great deal of people who only ever heard about it through them, and went to see the source.
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:At the end, after Andrew has been humiliated by Fletcher, he runs into the arms of his (loving but, to Andrew, unforgivably unambitious) father. Afterwards, he still chooses to go back out in a last-ditch effort to finally gain his instructor's approval. It's clear that in the duel of father figures, Andrew has chosen his ''abuser''. The last we see of his dad is him looking on at Andrew flailing about his drums, his expression equal parts saddened, shocked, and mortified. The script describes the moment with chilling language:]]
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** That Fletcher does reflect a couple times on Sean Casey and seem to actually feel bad does indicate that while he believes his vicious methods are necessary, he sees the consequences of what happens when someone does get pushed to that point and it does seem to weigh on him.
** [[spoiler:At the end, after Andrew has been humiliated by Fletcher, he runs into the arms of his (loving but, to Andrew, unforgivably unambitious) father. Afterwards, he still chooses to go back out in a last-ditch effort to finally gain his instructor's approval. It's clear that in the duel of father figures, Andrew has chosen his ''abuser''. The last we see of his dad is him looking on at Andrew flailing about his drums, his expression equal parts saddened, shocked, and mortified. The script describes the moment with chilling language:]]
** That Fletcher does reflect a couple times on Sean Casey and seem to actually feel bad does indicate that while he believes his vicious methods are necessary, he sees the consequences of what happens when someone does get pushed to that point and it does seem to weigh on him.
** [[spoiler:At the end, after Andrew has been humiliated by Fletcher, he runs into the arms of his (loving but, to Andrew, unforgivably unambitious) father. Afterwards, he still chooses to go back out in a last-ditch effort to finally gain his instructor's approval. It's clear that in the duel of father figures, Andrew has chosen his ''abuser''. The last we see of his dad is him looking on at Andrew flailing about his drums, his expression equal parts saddened, shocked, and mortified. The script describes the moment with chilling language:]]
