History YMMV / WhateleyUniverse

12th Aug '16 2:01:15 AM Twiddler
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* {{Squick}}: Several examples. Almost all the main characters are {{Transgender}}ed in some way shape or form and there are rather frank discussions of gender issues in the early chapters -- for example, Ayla is mostly female except for... certain elements of his body, Jade uses her powers to "tuck" herself in and this is described rather frankly -- did we mention that Jade is physically 12 years old? Sara essentially vomits out her entire set of internal organs when she "awakens". For the most part however, the series is a fairly standard slice-of-life high-school drama, except with super-powers. If you're squicked by trans-gender stuff, [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike why are you reading Whateley stories]]?

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* {{Squick}}: Several examples. Almost all the main characters are {{Transgender}}ed in some way shape or form and there are rather frank discussions of gender issues in the early chapters -- for example, Ayla is mostly female except for... certain elements of his body, Jade uses her powers to "tuck" herself in and this is described rather frankly -- did we mention that Jade is physically 12 years old? Sara essentially vomits out her entire set of internal organs when she "awakens". For the most part however, the series is a fairly standard slice-of-life high-school drama, except with super-powers. If you're squicked by trans-gender transgender stuff, [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike why are you reading Whateley stories]]?
12th Aug '16 1:59:20 AM Twiddler
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** [[spoiler: 'Ayla and the Mad Scientist' has Fey finding out that many of her big fights have resulted in the destruction of entire ecosystems because she was drawing more Essence than they could give her. She accidentally killed entire forests.]]
** Billie Wilson:

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** [[spoiler: 'Ayla and the Mad Scientist' has Fey [[spoiler:Fey finding out that many of her big fights have resulted in the destruction of entire ecosystems because she was drawing more Essence than they could give her. She accidentally killed entire forests.]]
** Billie Wilson: Wilson:



** Chou's father is stuck in the personal clutches of a demon with a grudge.i
** Josie Gillman, a designated ButtMonkey and ComicReliefCharacter, is actually an aversion despite the universe constantly conspiring to humiliate her. Her [[ThePollyanna Pollyanna]], {{Cloudcuckoolander}} and WrongGenreSavvy tendencies prevent her from seeing anything, no matter how humiliating, as more than a temporary setback.


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** Chou's father is stuck in the personal clutches of a demon with a grudge.i
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** Josie Gillman, a designated ButtMonkey and ComicReliefCharacter, comic relief character, is actually an aversion despite the universe constantly conspiring to humiliate her. Her [[ThePollyanna Pollyanna]], {{Cloudcuckoolander}} and WrongGenreSavvy tendencies prevent her from seeing anything, no matter how humiliating, as more than a temporary setback.

12th Aug '16 1:56:50 AM Twiddler
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* [[WhatTheHellHero What the Hell, Teacher?]]: The "Gun Safety" Instructor is apparently such a paranoid psychopath that he ''physically assaults'' students for the "crime" of creating an ''illusion'' of a firearm. As a demonstration of what their illusions are.
** And he deactivates the safeties of a Danger Room, assigning it to try to ''kill'' Loophole, so that her mutation will activate ''against her will''. What if the mutation was mind-reading or supersenses? What if her mutation was an extreme GSD?
11th Aug '16 8:44:39 PM Angeldeb82
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** Is Jobe Wilkins well meaning if JerkAss MadScientist who genuinely can't understand that his attempts to help are worse than the original problem? On the forums even the canon authors have disagreed on this point, but the author of the Book Of Jobe goes for the second viewpoint.
** Team Kimba: Powerful, but made up of compassionate and heroic individuals, or an [[AffablyEvil Affably Evil]] subversion of TrueCompanions whose members have almost no sense of restraint or mercy, care more about each other then the rest of the world, and are each a danger to the rest of humanity [[CorruptCorporateExecutive for]] [[TheFairFolk one]] [[BewareTheNiceOnes reason]] [[EldritchAbomination or]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo another?]]

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** Is Jobe Wilkins well meaning if JerkAss {{Jerkass}} MadScientist who genuinely can't understand that his attempts to help are worse than the original problem? On the forums even the canon authors have disagreed on this point, but the author of the Book Of Jobe goes for the second viewpoint.
** Team Kimba: Powerful, but made up of compassionate and heroic individuals, or an [[AffablyEvil Affably Evil]] AffablyEvil subversion of TrueCompanions whose members have almost no sense of restraint or mercy, care more about each other then the rest of the world, and are each a danger to the rest of humanity [[CorruptCorporateExecutive for]] [[TheFairFolk one]] [[BewareTheNiceOnes reason]] [[EldritchAbomination or]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo another?]]another]]?



** Deathlist is a psychopathic, NighInvulnerable cyborg who gets off on widespread carnage and considers the world to owe him a debt of pain. The most horrific thing he's done so far was to kidnap a mutant superheroine, jam a power-neutralizing device into her skull, then hack off her arms and legs and give her to his troops as a sex toy. Then, when she died after more than a month of torture and rape, he impaled her corpse on a pole with a thank-you message to one of her former teammates carved into her chest. Not even his FreudianExcuse (namely, that [[spoiler:his parents tried to kill him by crushing him in a garbage compactor]]) nets him any sympathy after that.

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** Deathlist is a psychopathic, NighInvulnerable {{Nigh Invulnerab|ility}}le cyborg who gets off on widespread carnage and considers the world to owe him a debt of pain. The most horrific thing he's done so far was to kidnap a mutant superheroine, jam a power-neutralizing device into her skull, then hack off her arms and legs and give her to his troops as a sex toy. Then, when she died after more than a month of torture and rape, he impaled her corpse on a pole with a thank-you message to one of her former teammates carved into her chest. Not even his FreudianExcuse (namely, that [[spoiler:his parents tried to kill him by crushing him in a garbage compactor]]) nets him any sympathy after that.






* FetishFuelStationAttendant: ...Sara, a half (or 3/4, depending on your math) [[spoiler: demon]]. Her father was a [[spoiler: demon of lust]]. She has ''tentacles'', shapeshifting abilities, a will to use them, and she's [[AnythingThatMoves OmniSexual]]. At one point, to taunt someone she sticks out her tongue, which grows to three feet long, and sprouts tendril-like fingers.
* GodModeSue: Billie Wilson is intended as a {{deconstruction}}.



* MarySue: The biggest source of BrokenBase in the series; just about every character (and Team Kimba in particular) has fans and anti-fans who consider them sue-riffic. However, the school is a SuperheroSchool, so some [[CommonMarySueTraits common Sue warning signs]] are, well, really common. For example, one of the {{Most Common Superpower}}s in the setting is a passive power that makes you [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting slowly shapeshift]] into your ideal physical shape, usually something [[MostCommonSuperpower unbelievably]] [[TopHeavyGuy attractive]] (or at least a very HeroicBuild). Not that this is always a good thing, see the InvoluntaryShapeshifting entry above.
** Personality-wise, it often varies between authors. Whether and to what degree someone is sadistic (but never caught), competent (when no one else is), powerful (at the expense of plot) or annoying (yet no one in story catches on) changes depending on who's in the spotlight.



* {{Squick}}: Several examples. Almost all the main characters are {{Transgender}}ed in some way shape or form and there are rather frank discussions of gender issues in the early chapters -- for example, Ayla is mostly female except for... certain elements of his body, Jade uses her powers to "tuck" herself in and this is described rather frankly -- did we mention that Jade is physically 12 years old? Sara essentially vomits out her entire set of internal organs when she "awakens". For the most part however, the series is a fairly standard slice-of-life high-school drama, except with super-powers. If you're squicked by trans-gender stuff, [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike why are you reading Whateley stories?]]

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* {{Squick}}: Several examples. Almost all the main characters are {{Transgender}}ed in some way shape or form and there are rather frank discussions of gender issues in the early chapters -- for example, Ayla is mostly female except for... certain elements of his body, Jade uses her powers to "tuck" herself in and this is described rather frankly -- did we mention that Jade is physically 12 years old? Sara essentially vomits out her entire set of internal organs when she "awakens". For the most part however, the series is a fairly standard slice-of-life high-school drama, except with super-powers. If you're squicked by trans-gender stuff, [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike why are you reading Whateley stories?]]stories]]?



* VillainSue: Mimeo, as a response to [[MarySue Team Kimba]].
* [[WhatTheHellHero What The Hell, Teacher?:]] The "Gun Safety" Instructor is apparently such a paranoid psychopath that he ''physically assaults'' students for the "crime" of creating an ''illusion'' of a firearm. As a demonstration of what their illusions are.

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* VillainSue: Mimeo, as a response to [[MarySue Team Kimba]].
* [[WhatTheHellHero What The the Hell, Teacher?:]] Teacher?]]: The "Gun Safety" Instructor is apparently such a paranoid psychopath that he ''physically assaults'' students for the "crime" of creating an ''illusion'' of a firearm. As a demonstration of what their illusions are.



** Josie Gillman, a designated ButtMonkey and ComicReliefCharacter, is actually an aversion despite the universe constantly conspiring to humiliate her. Her PollyAnna, CloudCuckooLander and WrongGenreSavvy tendencies prevent her from seeing anything, no matter how humiliating, as more than a temporary setback.


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** Josie Gillman, a designated ButtMonkey and ComicReliefCharacter, is actually an aversion despite the universe constantly conspiring to humiliate her. Her PollyAnna, CloudCuckooLander [[ThePollyanna Pollyanna]], {{Cloudcuckoolander}} and WrongGenreSavvy tendencies prevent her from seeing anything, no matter how humiliating, as more than a temporary setback.

15th May '16 8:39:57 PM Twiddler
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* NeverLiveItDown: Fireball.
** Phase turned her into a monster by trashing her BIT (accidentally), and keeps thinking about it despite the fact that he never intended to do it and despite the number of Exemplars he did the same thing to, none of them got their BITs trashed.
** He likes Brass Monkey (an alternative band) that the majority of other characters hate. They never stop bitching at him about it.
** When he was a child, he donated millions of dollars to the MCO and supported Emil Hammond, believing that the doctor was a good guy who was being slandered by a lot of people with a grudge. Ayla found out the truth, and now he won't stop beating himself up for it- despite repeatedly being told by his friends that nobody would blame a kid for donating money to a cause that his parents told him was right.
30th Oct '15 12:49:19 PM Anddrix
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* DudeNotFunny: Some fans felt this way about the BlackComedyRape scenes in ''The Book of Jobe''.
** The blatant MTF fetishism is offensive to some people.
25th Sep '15 9:26:58 PM FuzzyBoots
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** The Necromancer is trying hard to maintain a reputation for being one, but he's obviously afraid of Nimbus.
25th Sep '15 11:17:55 AM Schol-R-LEA
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** The Marquis is a PowerCopying supervillain who is in it purely for the kicks. Which is to say, torture and casual murder. The only thing that kept him from become a more serious threat was that he tended to torture his 'donors' to death at just the time when he needs their powers the most.
21st Jun '15 4:43:49 PM Twiddler
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* HollywoodHomely: When everyone else is an exemplar, minimum, the characters who are baseline in appearance (or worse) are pretty screwed. Or not, actually... Ayla comments a lot on this. (Actually, only about a third of the characters are Exemplars, but it does make a difference. X)

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* HollywoodHomely: When everyone else is an exemplar, minimum, the characters who are baseline in appearance (or worse) are pretty screwed. Or not, actually... Ayla comments a lot on this. (Actually, only about a third of the characters are Exemplars, but it does make a difference. X))
* LoveToHate: Jobe Wilkins. He's an obnoxious and grating {{Jerkass}} and acknowledged as such in-universe. But reading about him, you can't but laugh at his egotism and his blatant lack of respect for other people. It helps that we have characters like Jadis around to make snarky remarks at his expense.
29th Mar '15 12:51:49 PM JustKnown
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** Chou's father is stuck in the personal clutches of a demon with a grudge.


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** Chou's father is stuck in the personal clutches of a demon with a grudge.

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** Josie Gillman, a designated ButtMonkey and ComicReliefCharacter, is actually an aversion despite the universe constantly conspiring to humiliate her. Her PollyAnna, CloudCuckooLander and WrongGenreSavvy tendencies prevent her from seeing anything, no matter how humiliating, as more than a temporary setback.

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