History YMMV / WhateleyUniverse

30th Oct '15 12:49:19 PM Anddrix
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* DudeNotFunny: Some fans felt this way about the BlackComedyRape scenes in ''The Book of Jobe''. ** The blatant MTF fetishism is offensive to some people.
25th Sep '15 9:26:58 PM FuzzyBoots
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** The Necromancer is trying hard to maintain a reputation for being one, but he's obviously afraid of Nimbus.
25th Sep '15 11:17:55 AM Schol-R-LEA
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** The Marquis is a PowerCopying supervillain who is in it purely for the kicks. Which is to say, torture and casual murder. The only thing that kept him from become a more serious threat was that he tended to torture his 'donors' to death at just the time when he needs their powers the most.
21st Jun '15 4:43:49 PM Twiddler
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* HollywoodHomely: When everyone else is an exemplar, minimum, the characters who are baseline in appearance (or worse) are pretty screwed. Or not, actually... Ayla comments a lot on this. (Actually, only about a third of the characters are Exemplars, but it does make a difference. X)
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* HollywoodHomely: When everyone else is an exemplar, minimum, the characters who are baseline in appearance (or worse) are pretty screwed. Or not, actually... Ayla comments a lot on this. (Actually, only about a third of the characters are Exemplars, but it does make a difference. X)) * LoveToHate: Jobe Wilkins. He's an obnoxious and grating {{Jerkass}} and acknowledged as such in-universe. But reading about him, you can't but laugh at his egotism and his blatant lack of respect for other people. It helps that we have characters like Jadis around to make snarky remarks at his expense.
29th Mar '15 12:51:49 PM JustKnown
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** Chou's father is stuck in the personal clutches of a demon with a grudge.
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** Chou's father is stuck in the personal clutches of a demon with a grudge. grudge.i ** Josie Gillman, a designated ButtMonkey and ComicReliefCharacter, is actually an aversion despite the universe constantly conspiring to humiliate her. Her PollyAnna, CloudCuckooLander and WrongGenreSavvy tendencies prevent her from seeing anything, no matter how humiliating, as more than a temporary setback.
15th Feb '15 8:46:37 PM DarkStarling
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** Jade as written by Babs Yerunkle is a mature young woman struggling to overcome physical limitations and the dangers presented by the world with the help of her friends. Jade as written by Diane Castle is a CrazyAwesome [[PsychopathicManchild Psychopathic Girlchild]] who is a continual source of crazy, entertaining things. YMMV on which version is better. Given the timeline of the stories in question, it's possible to interpret at as [[CharacterDevelopment Jade being steadily pushed over the edge]] [TraumaCongaLine by her circumstances]], [[DealWithTheDevil demon mark]], [[EldritchAbomination and exposure to mythos magic]].
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** Jade as written by Babs Yerunkle is a mature young woman struggling to overcome physical limitations and the dangers presented by the world with the help of her friends. Jade as written by Diane Castle is a CrazyAwesome [[PsychopathicManchild Psychopathic Girlchild]] who is a continual source of crazy, entertaining things. YMMV on which version is better. Given the timeline of the stories in question, it's possible to interpret at as [[CharacterDevelopment Jade being steadily pushed over the edge]] [TraumaCongaLine [[TraumaCongaLine by her circumstances]], [[DealWithTheDevil demon mark]], [[EldritchAbomination and exposure to mythos magic]].
15th Feb '15 8:46:19 PM DarkStarling
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** Jade as written by Babs Yerunkle is a mature young woman struggling to overcome physical limitations and the dangers presented by the world with the help of her friends. Jade as written by Diane Castle is a CrazyAwesome [[PsychopathicManchild Psychopathic Girlchild]] who is a continual source of crazy, entertaining things. YMMV on which version is better.
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** Jade as written by Babs Yerunkle is a mature young woman struggling to overcome physical limitations and the dangers presented by the world with the help of her friends. Jade as written by Diane Castle is a CrazyAwesome [[PsychopathicManchild Psychopathic Girlchild]] who is a continual source of crazy, entertaining things. YMMV on which version is better. Given the timeline of the stories in question, it's possible to interpret at as [[CharacterDevelopment Jade being steadily pushed over the edge]] [TraumaCongaLine by her circumstances]], [[DealWithTheDevil demon mark]], [[EldritchAbomination and exposure to mythos magic]].
19th Dec '14 3:29:13 AM Morgenthaler
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Unfortunate Implications require citations from secondary sources.
* UnfortunateImplications: Multiple. ** The "glamor" mutants like Medusa, Fey or Sara have essentially makes them extremely attractive to people or causes sexual arousal in people affected by it, to the point that some of these powers can bypass even sexual orientation -- See EvenTheGuysWantHim above. Whether or not this is a form of mild MindRape (or actual rape, if they do anything with it) is up to the reader. ** The biggest one might be the fact that all the LGBT students are '''segregated''' from the rest of the school and asked to remain in the closet. The school attempts to justify this by saying that anti-queer bias is so deeply ingrained into Western society that homophobic bullying would be inevitable and apocalyptic in proportion, and all it would take is one incredibly angry homophobe for a tragedy. *** And the most unfortunate part of that implication: The semi-official cover story for that dorm, obliquely hinted at by the school administration whenever someone outside the dorm wonders why so many Poesies seem a little "off", is that it's the dorm for students with mental problems. *** FridgeLogic makes it worse: In canon people have an easier time accepting the fact that people at the school are very much non human than they do that that the hot chick might've been a boy until recently. If for example, Poes was instead "Every Jew, Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist must hide their faith here because the world is simply too intolerant" it would never have gotten off the ground, which in and of itself just shows the blatant fetishism of transgendered people inherent with the series. *** Funnily enough, in RealLife bashing LGBT people has become distinctly something that is not tolerated by Western society more and more, making the justification even more unfortunate. *** Keep in mind that 1, the person who instituted the cover-up is in her seventies and did so decades ago when such attitudes were more respectable. 2, people aren't asked to remain in the closet, they are free to come out (individually; no outing of the cottage as a whole). 3, Poe's purpose is to give the LGBT students a place to be themselves without fear of oppression (well, OK, excepting people like Sharisha and Hippolyta, but thankfully they're the minority), and 4, if Poe was known as the cottage for LGBT people, everyone in there would be outed. At least with the cover-up, they can decide whether or not they want to be out, as opposed to having that choice taken away from them. 5, all of the cottages are populated by specific groups- Whitman and Twain by GSD students, Emerson and Dickinson by non-GSD students, Melville by students of high-profile (i.e. Alphas, a lot of Bad Seeds and Capes), Hawthorne by students with issues controlling their powers- everyone in Poe is clearly there for a reason, so how many explanations are there for why those specific students were there. ** After being a girl for only six weeks, Tennyo defended herself against a sasquatch-like mutant who had been trying to bully her by flipping him over her shoulder and pinning him to the ground after he grabbed her. When a teacher heard rumors about this event, he chastised her for not acting enough like a girl, implying that girls should act according to outdated stereotypes and that standing up for yourself, even if you are able to, is improper for a girl. ** The fact that the sole FTM of Team Kimba is the only one without his own set of stories. *** The Meta-UnfortunateImplications inherent with people speculating that he is actually a villain because of that, and not that FTMs are basically ignored. ** SecondLawOfGenderBending takes place incredibly fast, even from characters virulently hating their situation. Fey for instance spends all of about a day worrying that she's become fully female, before giggling and deciding to take Tennyo on a shopping spree. ** The Goodkinds is just a landmine of [[StrawmanPolitical unfortunate stereotypes]] surrounding conservatives; perhaps not undeserved but still. What's worse is that despite their flagrant human rights violations (as in ''constantly'') they manage to control the country to an extent and the '''''superpowered''' community'' are powerless to stop them. ** The ThirdLawOfGenderBending tends to permeate most of the stories. By the time they arrive at Whateley, the four main characters who are shifting from male to female have all acquired the habits of tittering endlessly, pillow-fighting, constantly talking about their periods, and blaming everything on their hormones [[SarcasmMode because that's what women do]].
23rd May '14 2:17:06 AM ACW
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** Deathlist, a psychopathic, NighInvulnerable cyborg who gets off on widespread carnage and considers the world to owe him a debt of pain. The most horrific thing he's done so far was to kidnap a mutant superheroine, jam a power-neutralizing device into her skull, then hack off her arms and legs and give her to his troops as a sex toy. Then, when she died after more than a month of torture and rape, he impaled her corpse on a pole with a thank-you message to one of her former team-mates carved into her chest. Not even his FreudianExcuse (namely, that [[spoiler:his parents tried to kill him by crushing him in a garbage compactor]]) nets him any sympathy after that. ** Hekate, a wizardess supervillain-in-training, whose rap sheet includes using a spell to enslave two of her classmates for a year, during which they were repeatedly raped and otherwise abused while being completely aware of what was happening but powerless to stop it, as well as the fact that the athamé she used in the spell was empowered by the ritual sacrifice of two young children. Not only that, but during a magical battle with Fey (after trying and failing to ensnare her in the same enslavement spell mentioned earlier), she summons a trio of iron elementals using the promise of dozens of future sacrifices. To top all that off, she used her athamé to stab Jade in the heart beforehand, just to torment Fey.
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** Deathlist, Deathlist is a psychopathic, NighInvulnerable cyborg who gets off on widespread carnage and considers the world to owe him a debt of pain. The most horrific thing he's done so far was to kidnap a mutant superheroine, jam a power-neutralizing device into her skull, then hack off her arms and legs and give her to his troops as a sex toy. Then, when she died after more than a month of torture and rape, he impaled her corpse on a pole with a thank-you message to one of her former team-mates teammates carved into her chest. Not even his FreudianExcuse (namely, that [[spoiler:his parents tried to kill him by crushing him in a garbage compactor]]) nets him any sympathy after that. ** Hekate, Hekate is a wizardess supervillain-in-training, supervillain-in-training whose rap sheet includes using a spell to enslave two of her classmates for a year, during which they were repeatedly raped and otherwise abused while being completely aware of what was happening but powerless to stop it, as well as the fact that the athamé she used in the spell was empowered by the ritual sacrifice of two young children. Not only that, but during a magical battle with Fey (after trying and failing to ensnare her in the same enslavement spell mentioned earlier), she summons a trio of iron elementals using the promise of dozens of future sacrifices. To top all that off, she used her athamé to stab Jade in the heart beforehand, just to torment Fey.
2nd Dec '13 5:11:41 PM Zadia
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** Macrobiotic's family has been constantly waging war against a super villain called Deathmaiden, who keeps returning no matter what they do. Deathmaiden blew up Macrobiotic's father, and will most likely go after Macrobiotic and her mother when she next returns- which, as Macrobiotic notes in ''Ayla And The Mad Scientist'', is a mere couple of years away.
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