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** ''Spider-Man: The Other'': [[Characters/VenomTheSymbiote The Venom symbiote]] uses the full extent of its natural abilities and relentless cunning in pursuit of its goals. Sensing that its first host [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Peter Parker]] has gone into a coma, the symbiote breaks out of [[TheAlcatraz the Raft]], effortlessly killing most of the guards and taking one over to use as an interim host before abandoning him to permanently bond with Parker, [[PuppeteerParasite taking over his body]] and rechristening itself Poison. Intent on finding a mate to join him in his new life, Poison breaks into the apartment of May Parker and Mary Jane Watson, the latter of whom he intends to bond with his spawn, [[CurbStompBattle and easily defeating Wolverine and Luke Cage when they try to intervene]]. Although spurned by Mary Jane, Poison is undeterred and simply exhumes the corpse of Gwen Stacy to make her his symbiote bride instead.

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** ''Spider-Man: The Other'': [[Characters/VenomTheSymbiote [[Characters/MarvelComicsVenom The Venom symbiote]] uses the full extent of its natural abilities and relentless cunning in pursuit of its goals. Sensing that its first host [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker [[Characters/MarvelComicsPeterParker Peter Parker]] has gone into a coma, the symbiote breaks out of [[TheAlcatraz the Raft]], effortlessly killing most of the guards and taking one over to use as an interim host before abandoning him to permanently bond with Parker, [[PuppeteerParasite taking over his body]] and rechristening itself Poison. Intent on finding a mate to join him in his new life, Poison breaks into the apartment of May Parker and Mary Jane Watson, the latter of whom he intends to bond with his spawn, [[CurbStompBattle and easily defeating Wolverine and Luke Cage when they try to intervene]]. Although spurned by Mary Jane, Poison is undeterred and simply exhumes the corpse of Gwen Stacy to make her his symbiote bride instead.



** ''Peter Parker Became The Punisher '': [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Peter Parker himself]] is the deadly AntiHero ComicBook/ThePunisher. Tracking down and murdering the man who killed his Uncle Ben, Peter becomes a ruthless VigilanteMan dedicated to protecting his loved ones at all costs. With a combination of cunning tactics and custom ammunition designed to target his enemies specific weaknesses, [[PayEvilUntoEvil he effortlessly dispatches the Sinister Six in brutal fashion]] adding [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheKingpin the Kingpin]] along the way while being content to let rival gangs thin each other out in random gang violence. When [[Characters/MarvelComicsNormanOsborn Norman Osborn]], the [[ArchEnemy Green Goblin]] kidnaps his beloved Gwen Stacy, Peter [[CombatPragmatist shoots him on the spot]] and succeeds in saving Gwen. Regretting his actions, Peter abandons his vigilante lifestyle for a [[EarnYourHappyEnding peaceful married life with Gwen]] but not before leaving his shredded costume trashed in a back alley for a young war veteran named [[Characters/ThePunisherFrankCastle Frank Castle]] who just lost his family in a mob hit to discover.

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** ''Peter Parker Became The Punisher '': [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker [[Characters/MarvelComicsPeterParker Peter Parker himself]] is the deadly AntiHero ComicBook/ThePunisher. Tracking down and murdering the man who killed his Uncle Ben, Peter becomes a ruthless VigilanteMan dedicated to protecting his loved ones at all costs. With a combination of cunning tactics and custom ammunition designed to target his enemies specific weaknesses, [[PayEvilUntoEvil he effortlessly dispatches the Sinister Six in brutal fashion]] adding [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheKingpin the Kingpin]] along the way while being content to let rival gangs thin each other out in random gang violence. When [[Characters/MarvelComicsNormanOsborn Norman Osborn]], the [[ArchEnemy Green Goblin]] kidnaps his beloved Gwen Stacy, Peter [[CombatPragmatist shoots him on the spot]] and succeeds in saving Gwen. Regretting his actions, Peter abandons his vigilante lifestyle for a [[EarnYourHappyEnding peaceful married life with Gwen]] but not before leaving his shredded costume trashed in a back alley for a young war veteran named [[Characters/ThePunisherFrankCastle [[Characters/MarvelComicsFrankCastle Frank Castle]] who just lost his family in a mob hit to discover.
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** The joke scenario in #34, "What if Every Avenger Remained an Avenger", depicts the silliness of an Avengers team with around twenty-six members. Ever since ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', that lineup has looked downright sparse.

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** The joke scenario in #34, "What if Every Avenger Remained an Avenger", depicts the silliness of an Avengers team with around twenty-six members. Ever since ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', ''ComicBook/CivilWar2006'', that lineup has looked downright sparse.

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* HarsherInHindsight: "What if Spider-Man Had Not Married Mary Jane?" became more like a canon after the release of ComicBook/OneMoreDay in 2007.

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** ''What If?'' #20 depicts a version of the Kree-Skrull war ending with Princess Anelle taking control of the Skulls and ushering in peace. Three years after that issue, the canon Anelle would die in the destruction of the Skrull homeworld, and has stayed dead ever since.
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**''Peter Parker Became The Punisher '': [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Peter Parker himself]] is the deadly AntiHero ComicBook/ThePunisher. Tracking down and murdering the man who killed his Uncle Ben, Peter becomes a ruthless VigilanteMan dedicated to protecting his loved ones at all costs. With a combination of cunning tactics and custom ammunition designed to target his enemies specific weaknesses, [[PayEvilUntoEvil he effortlessly dispatches the Sinister Six in brutal fashion]] adding [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheKingpin the Kingpin]] along the way while being content to let rival gangs thin each other out in random gang violence. When [[Characters/MarvelComicsNormanOsborn Norman Osborn]], the [[ArchEnemy Green Goblin]] kidnaps his beloved Gwen Stacy, Peter [[CombatPragmatist shoots him on the spot]] and succeeds in saving Gwen. Regretting his actions, Peter abandons his vigilante lifestyle for a [[EarnYourHappyEnding peaceful married life with Gwen]] but not before leaving his shredded costume trashed in a back alley for a young war veteran named [[Characters/ThePunisherFrankCastle Frank Castle]] who just lost his family in a mob hit to discover.
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** Hovering between this and HarsherInHindsight is the panel from the first gag #34 issue, "What if ComicBook/LukeCage had found the hammer of Thor?" depicting the hilarity of a JiveTurkey, {{Blaxploitation}} Norse god. The joke became a lot weirder after the infamous ''ComicBook/WhatIfMilesMorales'' ''Became Thor?!'' portrayed the exact same idea ''completely seriously''.

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** ''Spider-Man: The Other'': [[Characters/VenomTheSymbiote The Venom symbiote]] uses the full extent of its natural abilities and relentless cunning in pursuit of its goals. Sensing that its first host [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Peter Parker]] has gone into a coma, the symbiote breaks out of [[TheAlcatraz the Raft]], effortlessly killing most of the guards and taking one over to use as an interim host before abandoning him to permanently bond with Parker, [[PuppeteerParasite taking over his body]] and rechristening itself Poison. Intent on finding a mate to join him in his new life, Poison breaks into the apartment of May Parker and Mary Jane Watson, the latter of whom he intends to bond with his spawn, [[CurbStompBattle and easily defeating Wolverine and Luke Cage when they try to intervene]]. Although spurned by Mary Jane, Poison is undeterred and simply exhumes the corpse of Gwen Stacy to make her his symbiote bride instead.



** ''Spider-Man: The Other'': [[Characters/VenomTheSymbiote The Venom symbiote]] uses the full extent of its natural abilities and relentless cunning in pursuit of its goals. Sensing that its first host [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Peter Parker]] has gone into a coma, the symbiote breaks out of [[TheAlcatraz the Raft]], effortlessly killing most of the guards and taking one over to use as an interim host before abandoning him to permanently bond with Parker, [[PuppeteerParasite taking over his body]] and rechristening itself Poison. Intent on finding a mate to join him in his new life, Poison breaks into the apartment of May Parker and Mary Jane Watson, the latter of whom he intends to bond with his spawn, [[CurbStompBattle and easily defeating Wolverine and Luke Cage when they try to intervene]]. Although spurned by Mary Jane, Poison is undeterred and simply exhumes the corpse of Gwen Stacy to make her his symbiote bride instead.
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* EthnicScrappy: The fourth issue of the ''What If? Miles Morales'' miniseries, where the premise is "What if Miles Morales became Thor?", is a rare case where not only the characters, but the comic itself falls into this trope to the point of widespread controversy. Its depiction of Asgard as a Brooklyn-esque city rife with imagery evocative of a run-down neighborhood as graffiti and shoes hanging off of telephone wires, coupled with the fact that the issue is narrated in ''rap'', proved highly unflattering to many a reader. The Miles/Thor mashup featured in the issue was particularly hated for being depicted as a walking caricature of a stereotypical black man, to the point that he feels like an InNameOnly version of the hero whom many likened to a character featured in Blaxploitation media.
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* {{Squick}}: The "mole of moles".

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* EthnicScrappy: The fourth issue of the ''What If? Miles Morales'' miniseries, where the premise is "What if Miles Morales became Thor?", is a rare case where not only the characters, but the comic itself falls into this trope to the point of widespread controversy. Its depiction of Asgard as a Brooklyn-esque city rife with imagery evocative of a run-down neighborhood as graffiti and shoes hanging off of telephone wires, coupled with the fact that the issue is narrated in ''rap'', proved highly unflattering to many a reader. The Miles/Thor mashup featured in the issue was particularly hated for being depicted as a walking caricature of a stereotypical black man, to the point that he feels like an InNameOnly version of the hero whom many likened to a character featured in Blaxploitation media.
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** The post [[http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/ "Pressure Cooker,"]] which described exploding pressure cookers among other things, came six days before [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Marathon_bombings somebody used a pair of pressure cookers filled with shrapnel to bomb the Boston Marathon.]]

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** The post [[http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/ "Pressure Cooker,"]] which described exploding pressure cookers among other things, came six days before [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Marathon_bombings somebody used a pair of pressure cookers filled with shrapnel to bomb the Boston Marathon.]]Marathon]].



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* CriticalResearchFailure: A rare one for Randall, but it still happened. A question on how much power can be produced by [[Franchise/StarWars The Force]] compares Yoda's power output to that of a Smart Car, with Yoda popping out of the front hood of said car. However, the Smart Car is a rear-engine car, with the [[InsistentTerminology front flap]] covering various auxiliary components.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: A rare one for Randall, but it still happened. A question on how much power can be produced by [[Franchise/StarWars The Force]] compares Yoda's power output to that of a Smart Car, with Yoda popping out of the front hood of said car. However, the Smart Car is a rear-engine car, with the [[InsistentTerminology front flap]] covering various auxiliary components.
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** Volume 1, Issue 2: "What if the Hulk had the brain of Bruce Banner?" [[Film/AvengersEndgame Good question.]]
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** What If? Vol 2 11 is both this and HarsherInHindsight. In the second story, "What If... The Fantastic Four all had the stretching power of Mister Fantastic?", Sue Storm marries Ben Grimm instead of Reed. The same thing happens in the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. Unfortunately, [[ComicBook/TheMaker Ultimate Reed]] [[FaceHeelTurn doesn't]] [[ItsAllAboutMe take it]] [[OmnicidalManiac nearly as well]].

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** What If? Vol 2 11 is both this and HarsherInHindsight. In the second story, "What If... The Fantastic Four all had the stretching power of Mister Fantastic?", Sue Storm marries Ben Grimm instead of Reed. The same thing happens in the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. Unfortunately, [[ComicBook/TheMaker [[ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour Ultimate Reed]] [[FaceHeelTurn doesn't]] [[ItsAllAboutMe take it]] [[OmnicidalManiac nearly as well]].
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** Similarly, the parody issue (vol.1 #34) had a short story asking "What if Iron Man had an eating problem instead of a drinking problem?", showing Tony Stark becoming morbidly obese from over-indulging on fast food. According to Creator/RobertDowneyJr, he realized he'd hit rock bottom one night when he was scarfing down tons of fast food burgers, which lead to his quitting drugs and cleaning up his life...which, in turn, led to his being cast as Film/IronMan.

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** Similarly, the * HeartwarmingInHindsight: The parody issue (vol.1 #34) had a short story asking "What if Iron Man had an eating problem instead of a drinking problem?", showing Tony Stark becoming morbidly obese from over-indulging on fast food. According to Creator/RobertDowneyJr, he realized he'd hit rock bottom one night when he was scarfing down tons of fast food burgers, which lead to his quitting drugs and cleaning up his life...which, in turn, led to his being cast as Film/IronMan.
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** ''Spider-Man: The Other'': [[Characters/VenomTheSymbiote The Venom symbiote]] uses the full extent of its natural abilities and relentless cunning in pursuit of its goals. Sensing that its first host [[Characters/SpiderManPeterParker Peter Parker]] has gone into a coma, the symbiote breaks out of [[TheAlcatraz the Raft]], effortlessly killing most of the guards and taking one over to use as an interim host before abandoning him to permanently bond with Parker, [[PuppeteerParasite taking over his body]] and rechristening itself Poison. Intent on finding a mate to join him in his new life, Poison breaks into the apartment of May Parker and Mary Jane Watson, the latter of whom he intends to bond with his spawn, [[CurbStompBattle and easily defeating Wolverine and Luke Cage when they try to intervene]]. Although spurned by Mary Jane, Poison is undeterred and simply exhumes the corpse of Gwen Stacy to make her his symbiote bride instead.
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** There's a joke panel depicting What If... [[Film/ThorRagnarok Thor got a haircut?]]

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* MagnificentBastard: From ''Infinity -- Thanos'': ComicBook/{{Thanos}}, The Mad Titan himself, used the war between the heroes of his universe and the Builders to achieve his own goals. Offering his help to Avengers, Thanos easily manipulated all of them, earning trust of every hero, aside from Captain America. Leading the heroes and his forces to finish off the Builders for good, Thanos reveals that his true motivation was to take his revenge upon the Builders for corrupting his son. As Captain America discovers this, Thanos manages to kill him, before convincing Avengers to let him take Captain America's place, effortlessly convincing them that he was murdered by enemy forces. Gaining influence over Earth, Thanos tracks down Illuminati in Necropolis and offered them a deal that they can't refuse.

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** ''Doom Became Sorcerer Supreme'': [[Characters/MarvelComicsDoctorDoom Doctor Doom]] is once again depicted as a brilliant and [[DiabolicalMastermind charismatic mastermind]]. He comes under the tutelage of the Ancient One to become this reality's version of the Sorcerer Supreme. Doom is so CrazyPrepared that he predicts a murder attempt by Baron Mordo and instead turns him into his mind-controlled servant. Doom and the Ancient One outwit Mephisto to save the soul of Doom's beloved mother. When Dormmamu invades, Doom responds by sending him to New York, where he knows [[LetsYouAndHimFight the resident heroes can hold him off]] while he has the Fantastic Four discreetly get a stone that can be used to banish him. Defeating Dormmamu [[HeroicSacrifice at the cost of his life]], Doom reveals he's even prepared for this and has his Doombots kidnap the innocent Dr Strange and overwrite his mind with that of Doom. A brilliant and analytical mastermind, Doom ultimately wins and gains the power of the Sorceror Supreme for eternity.
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''Infinity -- Thanos'': ComicBook/{{Thanos}}, The Mad Titan himself, used the war between the heroes of his universe and the Builders to achieve his own goals. Offering his help to Avengers, Thanos easily manipulated all of them, earning trust of every hero, aside from Captain America. Leading the heroes and his forces to finish off the Builders for good, Thanos reveals that his true motivation was to take his revenge upon the Builders for corrupting his son. As Captain America discovers this, Thanos manages to kill him, before convincing Avengers to let him take Captain America's place, effortlessly convincing them that he was murdered by enemy forces. Gaining influence over Earth, Thanos tracks down Illuminati in Necropolis and offered them a deal that they can't refuse.
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** In the Battleworld issue, Steve Rodgers is happily married to Rogue... or more accurately, Carol Danvers in Rogue's body, which has completely supplanted Rogue. And they've had a kid.

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** In the Battleworld issue, Steve Rodgers Rogers is happily married to Rogue... or more accurately, Carol Danvers in Rogue's body, which has completely supplanted Rogue. And they've had a kid.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The "What if..." genre, which begins with a question (almost always starting with the words "what if") about things playing out differently and then making educated guesses, began with authors of counterfactual history long before the comic. Counterfactual history is a subgenre of history and makes questions about real-life events (such as "What if X battle was won by the other combatants?", "What if an assassination attempt failed/was successful?"), and although it is speculation, it must be based on real-life context to evaluate the likelihood of the proposed outcomes.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Avengers kids from the Battleworld issue.



* {{Squick}}: The issue where Jane Foster becomes Thor ends with Odin making her marry him. And apparently Jane has no problem with this.

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** In ''What If?'' vol 1 #34's "What if Ghost Rider Owned a Fast Food Franchise?", he wants you to [[Advertising/TheBurgerKing have it HIS way]]... or else!
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* MagnificentBastard: From ''Infinity -- Thanos'': ComicBook/{{Thanos}}, The Mad Titan himself, used the war between the heroes of his universe and the Builders to achieve his own goals. Offering his help to Avengers, Thanos easily manipulated all of them, earning trust of every hero, aside from Captain America. Leading the heroes and his forces to finish off the Builders for good, Thanos reveals that his true motivation was to take his revenge upon the Builders for corrupting his son. As Captain America discovers this, Thanos manages to kill him, before convincing Avengers to let him take Captain America's place, effortlessly convincing them that he was murdered by enemy forces. Gaining influence over Earth, Thanos tracks down Illuminati in Necropolis and offered them a deal that they can't refuse.
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** "Common Cold" in the book asks if rhinoviruses could be eradicated if every human lived in isolation for five weeks, resembling the social distancing measures enacted globally a few years later due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

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** "Common Cold" in the book asks if rhinoviruses could be eradicated if every human lived in isolation for five weeks, resembling the social distancing measures enacted globally a few years later due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Randall points out that it would be theoretically possible to do this, but the economic impact would be extreme. COVID-19 caused a global slowdown in economic activity that threatens to turn into a recession, particularly in the United States.
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** "What if Spider-Man's Clone Lived?" (vol. 1 #30) would indeed be explored in the Canonical Spider-Man Arc "ComicBook/TheCloneSaga". Some readers even argu that the "What If...?" Story turned ot mch bettr than the actual Clone Saga did!

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** "What if Spider-Man's Clone Lived?" (vol. 1 #30) would indeed be explored in the Canonical Spider-Man Arc "ComicBook/TheCloneSaga". Some readers even argu argue that the "What If...?" Story turned ot mch bettr out much better than the actual Clone Saga did!

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