History YMMV / WestSideStory

4th May '17 7:22:11 AM cdrood
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Whether Tony's original plan would have really finally settled things between The Sharks and The Jets, it was at least a way to have the rumble without anyone getting seriously hurt. Maria sending Tony to break up a fist fight between to men ultimately led to three deaths and a possible rape.
16th Mar '17 9:31:48 AM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AwardSnub: It lost that year's Tony to ''TheMusicMan''.
* EarWorm: Many, like "Mambo" and "America".

to:

* AwardSnub: It lost that year's Tony to ''TheMusicMan''.''Theatre/TheMusicMan''.
* EarWorm: EarWorm:
**
Many, like "Mambo" and "America".



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Both [[SpicyLatina Anita]] and Anybodys.
** Although Anybodys' joining in taunting Anita during the rape scene can make her unlikable for some.

to:

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Both [[SpicyLatina Anita]] and Anybodys.
** Although
Anybodys, although Anybodys' joining in taunting Anita during the rape scene can make her unlikable for some.



* GodNeverSaidThat: The popular fan-theory of Maria killing herself off-screen has never exactly been confirmed.
** It is also common among theater groups to think that the Jets actually rape Anita in the original musical, but this is toned down to empty taunting in the film version. The original script for the musical is also kind of ambiguous if they are only taunting her (Baby John is said to be lifted on her by the others, rather than willingly going on her). Even if they were seriously going to rape her, it is also possible that Doc stops it in time.

to:

* GodNeverSaidThat: GodNeverSaidThat:
**
The popular fan-theory of Maria killing herself off-screen has never exactly been confirmed.
** It is also common among theater groups to think that the Jets actually rape Anita in the original musical, but this is toned down to empty taunting in the film version. The original script for the musical is also kind of ambiguous if they are only taunting her (Baby John is said to be lifted on her by the others, rather than willingly going on her). Even if they were seriously going to rape her, it is also possible that Doc stops it in time.



** NotHisSled: Unlike [[Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet Juliet]], Maria lives.



* MisaimedFandom: The entire argument over which gang is more sympathetic. It compeltely spits in the face the theme that both sides are adding to the conflict.

to:

* MisaimedFandom: The entire argument over which gang is more sympathetic. It compeltely completely spits in the face the theme that both sides are adding to the conflict.



* {{Narm}}: The fact that Action in the film looks like Matt [=LeBlanc=].

to:

* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
**
The fact that Action in the film looks like Matt [=LeBlanc=].



* OneSceneWonder: The unnamed girl in the song "Somewhere".
** Also John Astin as the MC at the dance.

to:

* OneSceneWonder: NotHisSled: Unlike [[Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet Juliet]], Maria lives.
* OneSceneWonder:
**
The unnamed girl in the song "Somewhere".
** Also John Astin as the MC at the dance.



* ValuesDissonance: "You're a girl, Anybodys. ''Be'' a girl!" is supposed to be part of Tony objecting to the senseless gang violence, but now it just sounds sexist, as if the violence is especially bad because ''even a girl'' wants to fight. Due to the ambiguity over Anybody's gender identity (some productions play the character as a transgender boy), there's another layer of dissonance added in that they might be misgendering Anybodys on top of the sexism.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
**
"You're a girl, Anybodys. ''Be'' a girl!" is supposed to be part of Tony objecting to the senseless gang violence, but now it just sounds sexist, as if the violence is especially bad because ''even a girl'' wants to fight. Due to the ambiguity over Anybody's gender identity (some productions play the character as a transgender boy), there's another layer of dissonance added in that they might be misgendering Anybodys on top of the sexism.



* WTHCastingAgency: For a part of a Puerto Rican in a musical, a Russian-American was cast, who couldn't sing (okay, NatalieWood actually could sing, but she wasn't good enough for this movie).
** Also compare white Carol Lawrence in the original Broadway cast (although she could sing).

to:

* WTHCastingAgency: WTHCastingAgency:
**
For a part of a Puerto Rican in a musical, a Russian-American was cast, who couldn't sing (okay, NatalieWood Creator/NatalieWood actually could sing, but she wasn't good enough for this movie).
** Also compare Compare white Carol Lawrence in the original Broadway cast (although she could sing).
2nd Mar '17 7:40:03 AM johnnycade7
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** In "Gee Officer Krupke", the reasons for the Jets being delinquents are pretty fair (My father is a bastard/My ma's an S.O.B./My grandpa's always plastered), until we get to "My sister wears a mustache" and "My brother wears a dress" which sounds pretty ignorant against crossdressers and trans people.
20th Jan '17 9:10:18 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ValuesDissonance: "You're a girl, Anybodys. ''Be'' a girl!" is supposed to be part of Tony objecting to the senseless gang violence, but now it just sounds sexist, as if the violence is especially bad because ''even a girl'' wants to fight.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: "You're a girl, Anybodys. ''Be'' a girl!" is supposed to be part of Tony objecting to the senseless gang violence, but now it just sounds sexist, as if the violence is especially bad because ''even a girl'' wants to fight. Due to the ambiguity over Anybody's gender identity (some productions play the character as a transgender boy), there's another layer of dissonance added in that they might be misgendering Anybodys on top of the sexism.
14th Jan '17 5:53:23 PM MarkyVigoroth
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* HarsherInHindsight: The line of "the money owing" in "America" is this due to, in 2016, the government of Puerto Rico started to miss payments on its debt, requiring the government of the United States of America to step in.
14th Jan '17 2:43:32 PM TheJayman49
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ValuesResonance: The song "America", in which the Puerto Ricans discuss how it feels to live in America and the differences between it and their homeland, feels a lot more relevant today with regards to the treatment of immigrants and Mexicans.
6th Sep '16 9:42:58 PM AdamC
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* MoralEventHorizon: It's pretty hard to root for the Jets after [[NearRapeExperience they attempt to rape Anita]].
** Of course, [[RealityEnsues the entire point]] is to ''[[MisaimedFandom not]]'' [[MisaimedFandom root for either side]].

to:

* MoralEventHorizon: It's pretty hard to root for the Jets after [[NearRapeExperience they attempt to rape Anita]].
** Of course,
Anita]]. Granted, [[RealityEnsues the entire point]] is to ''[[MisaimedFandom not]]'' [[MisaimedFandom root for either side]].side]], but even so [[ALighterShadeofGrey the Sharks never do anything that horrific.]]
6th Jul '16 8:17:35 AM cordychase
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ValuesDissonance: "You're a girl, Anybodys. ''Be'' a girl!" is supposed to be part of Tony objecting to the senseless gang violence, but now it just sounds sexist, as if the violence is especially bad because ''even a girl'' wants to fight.
7th May '16 3:08:29 PM arpathacorrin
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* GodNeverSaidThat: The popular fan-theory of Maria killing herself off-screen has never exactly been confirmed.
** It is also common among theater groups to think that the Jets actually rape Anita in the original musical, but this is toned down to empty taunting in the film version. The original script for the musical is also kind of ambiguous if they are only taunting her (Baby John is said to be lifted on her by the others, rather than willingly going on her). Even if they were seriously going to rape her, it is also possible that Doc stops it in time.
7th May '16 2:54:21 PM arpathacorrin
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Although Anybodys' joining in taunting Anita during the rape scene can make her unlikable for some.


Added DiffLines:

* TearJerker: The Wedding Scene is cute out of context, but not if you know the ending.
This list shows the last 10 events of 47. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.WestSideStory