History YMMV / Watchmen

14th Jun '17 11:50:54 AM neander7hal
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** Regardless of whether he exists outside of time now, the fact that the 30-year-old-looking Manhattan goes after 16-year-old Laurie is hella creepy.
14th Apr '17 10:17:30 AM Anicomicgeek
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14th Apr '17 10:17:16 AM Anicomicgeek
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* SacredCow: ''Watchmen'' is so beloved by many fans that merely criticizing it is FandomHeresy in the eyes of some fans. Likewise, doing anything else with the story and its world is seen as blasphemous to many people as a lot of fans condemned the movie even before its release and a main sticking point afterward being [[spoiler:replacing the genetically-engineered squid with a plot to frame Dr. Manhattan for the destruction of several cities as the keystone Veidt's plan to stop the Cold War]], ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' got criticized by a lot of people before its release simply because it revisited the world, Ed Boon got people breathing down his neck for just teasing the idea of ''Watchmen'' characters as {{Guest Fighter}}s in ''VideoGame/{{Injustice 2}}'', and as noted under "BrokenBase", [[spoiler:many people aren't fond of DC trying to tie ''Watchmen'' into DC canon with ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'']].

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* SacredCow: ''Watchmen'' is so beloved by many fans that merely criticizing it is FandomHeresy in the eyes of some fans. Likewise, doing anything else with the story and its world is seen as blasphemous to many people as a lot of fans condemned the movie even before its release and a main sticking point afterward being [[spoiler:replacing the genetically-engineered squid with a plot to frame Dr. Manhattan for the destruction of several cities as the keystone of Veidt's plan to stop the Cold War]], ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' got criticized by a lot of people before its release simply because it revisited the world, Ed Boon got people breathing down his neck for just teasing the idea of ''Watchmen'' characters as {{Guest Fighter}}s in ''VideoGame/{{Injustice 2}}'', and as noted under "BrokenBase", [[spoiler:many people aren't fond of DC trying to tie ''Watchmen'' into DC canon with ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'']].
3rd Mar '17 8:18:46 PM GKG
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* ValuesResonance: Alan Moore said of ''Watchmen'', "It was very much an 80s story, born out of that miasma of anxiety and unease that, as I remember it, was hanging over all of us back then. Most of the liberal world was watching in horror at the inexorable rise of the [[RonaldReagan Reagan]]-[[MargaretThatcher Thatcher]] right-wing coalition, at the same time, elements of fascism were starting to make themselves known on the streets of Britain with the rise of the National Front, and things were looking altogether rather bleak." Thirty years later, liberals are watching in horror at the rise of Donald Trump, Britain has a female Conservative PM, bigots are appearing in the streets, and things are looking altogether rather bleak.
4th Feb '17 6:51:50 AM Anicomicgeek
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* SacredCow: ''Watchmen'' is so beloved by many fans that merely criticizing it is FandomHeresy in the eyes of some fans. Likewise, doing anything else with the story and its world is seen as blasphemous to many people as a lot of fans condemned the movie even before its release and a main sticking point afterward being [[spoiler:replacing the genetically-engineered squid with a plot to frame Dr. Manhattan for the destruction of several cities as the keystone Veidt's plan to stop the Cold War]], ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' got criticized very people before its release simply because it revisited the world, Ed Boon got people breathing down his neck for just teasing the idea of ''Watchmen'' characters as {{Guest Fighter}}s in ''VideoGame/{{Injustice 2}}'', and as noted under "BrokenBase", [[spoiler:many people aren't fond of DC trying to tie ''Watchmen'' into DC canon with ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'']].

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* SacredCow: ''Watchmen'' is so beloved by many fans that merely criticizing it is FandomHeresy in the eyes of some fans. Likewise, doing anything else with the story and its world is seen as blasphemous to many people as a lot of fans condemned the movie even before its release and a main sticking point afterward being [[spoiler:replacing the genetically-engineered squid with a plot to frame Dr. Manhattan for the destruction of several cities as the keystone Veidt's plan to stop the Cold War]], ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' got criticized very by a lot of people before its release simply because it revisited the world, Ed Boon got people breathing down his neck for just teasing the idea of ''Watchmen'' characters as {{Guest Fighter}}s in ''VideoGame/{{Injustice 2}}'', and as noted under "BrokenBase", [[spoiler:many people aren't fond of DC trying to tie ''Watchmen'' into DC canon with ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'']].
4th Feb '17 6:50:05 AM Anicomicgeek
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* ScaredCow: ''Watchmen'' is so beloved by many fans that merely criticizing it is FandomHeresy in the eyes of some fans. Likewise, doing anything else with the story and its world is seem as blasphemous to many people as commended the movie even before released and a main sticking point afterward being [[spoiler:replacing the genetically-engineered squid with a plot to frame Dr. Manhattan for the destruction of several cities as the keystone Veidt's plan to stop the Cold War]], ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' got criticized very people its release, Ed Boon got people breathing down his neck for just teasing the idea of ''Watchmen'' characters as {{Guest Fighter}}s in ''VideoGame/{{Injustice 2}}'', and as noted under "BrokenBase", [[spoiler:many people aren't fond of DC trying to tie ''Watchmen'' into DC canon with ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'']].

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* ScaredCow: SacredCow: ''Watchmen'' is so beloved by many fans that merely criticizing it is FandomHeresy in the eyes of some fans. Likewise, doing anything else with the story and its world is seem seen as blasphemous to many people as commended a lot of fans condemned the movie even before released its release and a main sticking point afterward being [[spoiler:replacing the genetically-engineered squid with a plot to frame Dr. Manhattan for the destruction of several cities as the keystone Veidt's plan to stop the Cold War]], ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' got criticized very people before its release, release simply because it revisited the world, Ed Boon got people breathing down his neck for just teasing the idea of ''Watchmen'' characters as {{Guest Fighter}}s in ''VideoGame/{{Injustice 2}}'', and as noted under "BrokenBase", [[spoiler:many people aren't fond of DC trying to tie ''Watchmen'' into DC canon with ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'']].
4th Feb '17 6:47:48 AM Anicomicgeek
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* ScaredCow: ''Watchmen'' is so beloved by many fans that merely criticizing it is FandomHeresy in the eyes of some fans. Likewise, doing anything else with the story and its world is seem as blasphemous to many people as commended the movie even before released and a main sticking point afterward being [[spoiler:replacing the genetically-engineered squid with a plot to frame Dr. Manhattan for the destruction of several cities as the keystone Veidt's plan to stop the Cold War]], ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' got criticized very people its release, Ed Boon got people breathing down his neck for just teasing the idea of ''Watchmen'' characters as {{Guest Fighter}}s in ''VideoGame/{{Injustice 2}}'', and as noted under "BrokenBase", [[spoiler:many people aren't fond of DC trying to tie ''Watchmen'' into DC canon with ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'']].
3rd Feb '17 4:58:20 PM MartineBrooke
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-->'''Wally:'''What I said was 'God Exists, and he's American'. If that statement starts to chill you after a couple of moments' consideration, then don't be alarmed. A feeling of intense and crushing religious terror at the concept indicates only that you're still sane. [[spoiler: Which later got vindicated on how Ozymandias implements his forced peace.]]

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-->'''Wally:'''What I said was 'God Exists, and he's American'. If that statement starts to chill you after a couple of moments' consideration, then don't be alarmed. A feeling of intense and crushing religious terror at the concept indicates only that you're still sane. [[spoiler:
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Which later got vindicated [[spoiler: on how Ozymandias implements his forced peace.]]
3rd Feb '17 4:54:28 PM MartineBrooke
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** Eddie Blake/The Comedian in particular. When he found out about Adrian's plan, he has such a breakdown he asked for forgiveness in front of his old enemy, Moloch, in tears and tried to justify what horrible things he did. But every other time we see him in the comic, he's cheerfully crossing the MoralEventHorizon and keeping on going - murdering a woman carrying his child, assassinating Kennedy, and attempting to rape one of his teammates. We never see him do anything remotely heroic, despite having been on a superhero team. So, is he a ''[[SociopathicHero really]]'' [[SociopathicHero dark antihero]]?

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** Eddie Blake/The Comedian in particular. When he found out about Adrian's plan, he has such a breakdown he asked for forgiveness in front of his old enemy, Moloch, in tears and tried to justify what horrible things he did. But every other time we see him in the comic, he's cheerfully crossing the MoralEventHorizon and keeping on going - murdering a woman carrying his child, assassinating Kennedy, and attempting to rape one the first Silk Spectre and possibly later murdering another of his teammates. We never see him do anything remotely heroic, despite having been on a superhero team. So, is he a ''[[SociopathicHero really]]'' [[SociopathicHero dark antihero]]?
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