History YMMV / WarriorCatsTheNewProphecy

* BrokenBase: To this day, many people disagree on whether Brambleclaw or Squirrelflight were in the right during their quarrel in the second half of the arc. Some people believe that Squirrelflight was totally in the right for repeatedly trying to warn Brambleclaw about Hawkfrost's bloodthirsty ambitions, warnings he ignored, and because Brambleclaw secretly trained with Tigerstar, despite [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter knowing how evil he was]]. Others argue that Brambleclaw was in the right because he wanted to get to know his half-brother, whose untrustworthiness Squirrelflight [[YouHaveToBelieveMe had no concrete proof of]], and because of how unnecessarily rude and judgmental Squirrelflight was during their arguments. A third continent goes with BothSidesHaveAPoint, saying that Brambleclaw ultimately should've listened to Squirrelflight, but the latter definitely could have handled the situation better.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BrokenBase Depends on who you ask]], but as mentioned above, some people dislike Squirrelflight's treatment of Brambleclaw in the second half of the arc. After three books of slowly falling in love, Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw are on the verge of officially becoming mates, but when Brambleclaw befriends his [=RiverClan=] half-brother, Hawkfrost, he and Squirrelflight have a ''serious'' falling out. Squirrelflight distrusts Hawkfrost and this distrust is ultimately proven right when he reveals himself to be an [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]], [[BloodKnight murderous]] ManipulativeBastard. Judging by the authors' comments in Squirrelflight's Character Spotlight page and on other pages, readers are supposed to see her as being entirely in the right. However, some people argue that just because Squirrlflight was proven right about Hawkfrost in the end doesn't mean the way she acted and treated Brambleclaw was okay. As soon as Brambleclaw befriends Hawkfrost, Squirrelflight ''immediately'' loses her temper and starts yelling at him, berating him when he doesn't immediately agree with her even though she has no concrete proof for her accusations. She repeats this several times, even outright accusing Brambleclaw of being disloyal ''in front of their Clanmates'' twice, which only ends up pushing Brambleclaw away from her and further into Hawkfrost's influence. Some people also regard Squirrelflight's demands that Brambleclaw choose between her and Hawkfrost as hypocritical because she has a close bond with her own sister, Leafpool.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BaseBreakingCharacter Depends on who you ask]], but as mentioned above, some people dislike Squirrelflight's treatment of Brambleclaw in the second half of the arc. After three books of slowly falling in love, Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw are on the verge of officially becoming mates, but when Brambleclaw befriends his [=RiverClan=] half-brother, Hawkfrost, he and Squirrelflight have a ''serious'' falling out. Squirrelflight distrusts Hawkfrost and this distrust is ultimately proven right when he reveals himself to be an [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]], [[BloodKnight murderous]] ManipulativeBastard. Judging by the authors' comments in Squirrelflight's Character Spotlight page and on other pages, readers are supposed to see her as being entirely in the right. However, some people argue that just because Squirrlflight was proven right about Hawkfrost in the end doesn't mean the way she acted and treated Brambleclaw was okay. As soon as Brambleclaw befriends Hawkfrost, Squirrelflight ''immediately'' loses her temper and starts yelling at him, berating him when he doesn't immediately agree with her even though she has no concrete proof for her accusations. She repeats this several times, even outright accusing Brambleclaw of being disloyal ''in front of their Clanmates'' twice, which only ends up pushing Brambleclaw away from her and further into Hawkfrost's influence. Some people also regard Squirrelflight's demands that Brambleclaw choose between her and Hawkfrost as rather hypocritical because she has a close bond with her own sister, Leafpool.

* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: Hawkfrost is Tigerstar's son]], [[spoiler: Mothwing is an atheist]], [[spoiler: Tigerstar comes back]], and [[spoiler: the forest is destroyed]].

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BaseBreakingCharacter Depends on who you ask]], but as mentioned above, some people dislike Squirrelflight's treatment of Brambleclaw in the second half of ''The New Prophecy''. After three books of slowly falling in love, Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw are on the verge of officially becoming mates, but when Brambleclaw befriends his [=RiverClan=] half-brother, Hawkfrost, he and Squirrelflight have a falling out. Squirrelflight distrusts Hawkfrost and this distrust is ultimately proven right when he reveals himself to be an [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]], [[BloodKnight murderous]] ManipulativeBastard. Judging by the authors' comments in Squirrelflight's Character Spotlight page and on other pages, readers are supposed to see her as being entirely in the right. However, some people argue that just because Squirrlflight was proven right about Hawkfrost in the end doesn't mean the way she acted and treated Brambleclaw was okay. As soon as Brambleclaw befriends Hawkfrost, Squirrelflight ''immediately'' loses her temper and starts yelling at him, berating him when he doesn't immediately agree with her and even though she has no concrete proof for her accusations. She even outright accuses him of being disloyal ''in front of their Clanmates'', which only ends up pushing Brambleclaw away from Squirrelflight and into Hawkfrost's influence. Some people also see Squirrelflight's demands that Brambleclaw choose between her and Hawkfrost to be hypocritical because she has a close bond with her own sister, Leafpool.

UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[BaseBreakingCharacter Depends on who you ask]], but as mentioned above, some people dislike Squirrelflight's treatment of Brambleclaw in the second half of ''The New Prophecy''. After three books of slowly falling in love, Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw are on the verge of officially becoming mates, but when Brambleclaw befriends his [=RiverClan=] half-brother, Hawkfrost, he and Squirrelflight have a falling out. Squirrelflight distrusts Hawkfrost and this distrust is ultimately proven right when he reveals himself to be an [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]], [[BloodKnight murderous]] ManipulativeBastard. Judging by the authors' comments in Squirrelflight's Character Spotlight page and on other pages, readers are supposed to see her as being entirely in the right. However, some people argue that just because Squirrlflight was proven right about Hawkfrost in the end doesn't mean the way she acted and treated Brambleclaw was okay. As soon as Brambleclaw befriends Hawkfrost, Squirrelflight ''immediately'' loses her temper and starts yelling at him, berating him when he doesn't immediately agree with her and even though she has no concrete proof for her accusations. She even outright accuses him of being disloyal ''in front of their Clanmates'', which only ends up pushing Brambleclaw away from Squirrelflight and into Hawkfrost's influence. Some people also see Squirrelflight's demands that Brambleclaw choose between her and Hawkfrost to be hypocritical because she has a close bond with her own sister, Leafpool.

* BrokenBase: To this day, many people disagree on whether Brambleclaw or Squirrelflight were in the right during their quarrel in the second half of the arc. Some people believe that Squirrelflight was totally in the right for repeatedly trying to warn Brambleclaw about Hawkfrost's bloodthirsty ambitions, warnings he ignored, and because Brambleclaw secretly trained with Tigerstar, despite [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter knowing how evil he was]]. Others argue that Brambleclaw was in the right because he wanted to get to know his half-brother, whose untrustworthiness Squirrelflight [[YouHaveToBelieveMe had no concrete proof of]], and because of how unnecessarily rude Squirrelflight was during their arguments. A third continent goes with BothSidesHaveAPoint, saying that Brambleclaw ultimately should've listened to Squirrelflight, but the latter definitely could have handled the situation better.

* BreatherEpisode: The second half of the arc, which is just about the settlement on the lake, and with the exception of the badger attack and final confrontation of Hawkfrost, this part is generally far lighter than ''Midnight'', ''Moonrise'', or ''Dawn''

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Hawkfrost's backstory gave him a lot of potential as either a villain or a hero. He's established early as wanting to serve his Clan well, but tending to take it too far--this could have warped into a KnightTemplar attitude over time, or tempered down. He could have been shown to hate [[spoiler:Tigerstar for betraying his Clan, or Tigerstar could have been shown to be taking advantage of his WordOfGod abandonment issues to groom his as a successor. Some even think that Leafpool and Squirrelflight's suspicion of him should have been a RedHerring and that ''Mothwing'' was the evil one all along, which would have tied into the message of not judging Tigerstar's kin by appearance. But at the end of the day, his motives for turning evil are just that he's power-hungry.]]

* RomanticPlotTumor: The second half of the arc can be most accurately summed up as "Brambleclaw/Squirrelflight/Ashfur fight and angst about their LoveTriangle" and "Leafpool angsts about her feelings for Crowfeather". In fact, the excessive focus on love drama instead of the Great Journey or the adjustments to life at the lake is a serious part of why ''The New Prophecy'', or at best it's second half, is [[SeasonalRot considered one of the weaker arcs]].

* RomanticPlotTumor: The second half of the arc can be most accurately summed up as "Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight fight and angst about fighting" and "Leafpool angsts about her feelings for Crowfeather". In fact, the excessive focus on love drama instead of the Great Journey or the adjustments to life at the lake is a serious part of why ''The New Prophecy'', or at best it's second half, is [[SeasonalRot considered one of the weaker arcs]].

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* SeasonalRot: The second half of the series, which is arguably considered nowhere near as well written as the first half. WordOfGod (Vicky) has even stated ''Sunset'' was one of the worst quality ones.

* SeasonalRot: The second half of the series, which is arguably considered nowhere near as well written as the first half. WordOfGod (Vicky) has even stated ''Sunset'' was one of the worst quality ones.

* DarkerAndEdgier: The first half of the arc, which is focused on a complete destruction of the forest, Graystripe being kidnapped, starvation, and poisonings, and the struggles of migration. Makes the events of the original series look light in comparison.

* DarkerAndEdgier: The first half of the arc, which is focused on a complete destruction of the forest, Graystripe being kidnapped, starvation and poisonings
* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: Hawkfrost is Tigerstar's son]], [[spoiler: Mothwing is an atheist]], [[spoiler: Tigerstar comes back]], and [[spoiler: the forest is destroyed]].