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1st May '16 6:00:08 AM Retloclive
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* ThatOneSidequest: For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, while the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the biggest one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks that not only have area-of-effect damage, but can also burn over time, which will easily leave your heroes' health down in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.

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* ThatOneSidequest: ThatOneSidequest:
** As mentioned above in ThatOneLevel, the {{Sidequest}} for ''March of The Scourge'' on Hard mode is almost impossible to complete as you would need to take a small army out with your Paladin hero to take out a Meat Wagon escort, even though those units you sent out would be much more useful had they just stayed at the base for the primary HoldTheLine mission.
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For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, while the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the biggest one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks that not only have area-of-effect damage, but can also burn over time, which will easily leave your heroes' health down in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.
1st May '16 5:51:51 AM Retloclive
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* ThatOneSidequest: For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, which the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the biggest one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks that not only have area-of-effect damage, but can also burn over time, which will easily leave your heroes' health down in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.

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* ThatOneSidequest: For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, which while the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the biggest one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks that not only have area-of-effect damage, but can also burn over time, which will easily leave your heroes' health down in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.
1st May '16 5:49:47 AM Retloclive
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* ThatOneSidequest: For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, which the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the biggest one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks, most likely having their health end up in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.

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* ThatOneSidequest: For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, which the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the biggest one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks, most likely having their attacks that not only have area-of-effect damage, but can also burn over time, which will easily leave your heroes' health end up down in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.
1st May '16 5:47:51 AM Retloclive
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* ThatOneSidequest: For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, which the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the ''biggest'' one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks, most likely having their health end up in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.

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* ThatOneSidequest: For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, which the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the ''biggest'' biggest one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks, most likely having their health end up in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.
1st May '16 5:45:52 AM Retloclive
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*** The last mission in the "Sylvanas Windrunner" story arc ''"A New Power In Lordaeron"'' can hurt your brain on Hard. What makes it painful is the Undead in the main city at the center is protected by Burning Legion demons as well as Balnazzar himself (A Dreadlord hero on crack). The main army will repeatedly send powerful summons to Garithos's Alliance army to distract you from planning your attack. After demolishing the support camps on the edge of the map, you'll likely attempt to assault the capital with both of your armies, only to see that the Undead army and the Burning Legion support can easily turn your troops to bloody goop. After a few hours of failing, you may then realize that it is [[GuideDangIt best to teleport your Alliance army over to your own Undead one]] (or vice versa, but don't forget to recruit the dwarves before this) for a steamroller attack, but even this does not make the assault easy.

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*** The last mission in the "Sylvanas Windrunner" story arc ''"A New Power In Lordaeron"'' can hurt your brain on Hard. What makes it painful is the Undead in the main city at the center is protected by Burning Legion demons as well as Balnazzar himself (A Dreadlord hero on crack). The main army will repeatedly send powerful summons to Garithos's Alliance army to distract you from planning your attack. After demolishing the support camps on the edge of the map, you'll likely attempt to assault the capital with both of your armies, only to see that the Undead army and the Burning Legion support can easily turn your troops to bloody goop. After a few hours of failing, you may then realize that it is [[GuideDangIt best to teleport your Alliance army over to your own Undead one]] (or vice versa, but don't forget to recruit the dwarves before this) for a steamroller attack, but even this does not make the assault easy.easy.
* ThatOneSidequest: For the bonus ''Frozen Throne'' campaign, recruiting Chen Stormstout to the group can be somewhat troublesome if you try to complete his {{Sidequest}} as early as possible when your heroes are hardly leveled and decked out on items. To explain, the {{Sidequest}} that Chen offers Rexxar requires him to collect three items that need to be returned to Chen. Two of such items are incredibly easy to complete as one is just to pick up a Thunderbloom plant at a nearby camp of incredibly weak Murlocs, which the second is to purchase a barrel of Thunderwater from a Horde vendor. However, the third item of the {{Sidequest}} is the difficult part; [[DemonicSpiders having to fight through an area of thunder phoenixes]] [[BossInMookClothing in order to loot the Thunder Egg from the ''biggest'' one]]. The reason of the difficulty is that you only have Rexxar and Rokhan to fight these phoenixes, and these phoenixes hit incredibly hard with powerful magic-type attacks, most likely having their health end up in the red after every engagement. Also, they're flying units, so Rexxar's bear, Misha, ends up being useless for this fight if your group has no means to force the phoenixes to the ground.
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21st Mar '16 2:28:49 PM Retloclive
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** For the seventh mission of the Orc campaign, "The Oracle," Thrall comes across a trap set by Jaina's sorceresses where a group of sheep suddenly become footmen, and attack Thrall's group. However, due to a few broken triggers, some of the sheep will spawn as Neutral footmen that will just stand there, and not do anything; making an already easy trap to defeat an absolute joke.
17th Mar '16 9:08:07 AM hullflyer
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*** It is possible, throughout the game, to play most levels by simply sitting in your base (turtling) until you have gained all tech levels and upgrades, and then go around to most other bases and either wipe them out, or beat them down building by building. The very last level, however, totally invalidates this approach, forcing players who have been playing the entire game by turtling to learn a whole new way of playing on one of the toughest levels in the game. This also applies to the multiplayer AI, who will CurbStomp you with their high-level heroes before you can blink if you try the single-player turtling approach.
17th Mar '16 8:57:31 AM hullflyer
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* ItWasHisSled: The RTS games in the franchise are considered to be quite old nowadays, so some of what may have been interesting plot developments back in the day have become well-known within, and outside, the Warcraft fanbase. Especially since many of these story moments were used as foundation to set up ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', and its later expansions.

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* ItWasHisSled: The RTS games in the franchise are considered to be quite old nowadays, so some of what may have been interesting plot developments back in the day have become well-known within, and outside, the Warcraft fanbase. Especially since many of these story moments were used as the foundation to set up ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', and its later expansions.
17th Mar '16 8:53:11 AM hullflyer
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** Illidan Stormrage as well. Many felt that he got the worst treatment in World of Warcraft [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter being stuck to the Black Temple of Outland]].

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** Illidan Stormrage as well. Many felt that he got the worst treatment in World of Warcraft by [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter being stuck to in the Black Temple of Outland]].
17th Mar '16 8:52:04 AM hullflyer
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* BreatherLevel: If you feel particularly ''terrible'' for killing and slaughtering the (mostly good and heroic) Humans of Lordaeron and High Elves of Quel'Thalas (as you control Arthas as the VillainProtagonist at this point) in the first five stages of Undead Campaign in ''Reign of Chaos'', then you could feel better in the sixth stage, "Blackrock and Roll, too!", since it is an EvilVersusEvil stage where your enemy is Blackrock Clan, villainous faction of the Orc who remains worshipping demons and doesn't join Thrall's Horde. The next two stages after this have you fight against heroic Humans again, however.

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* BreatherLevel: If you feel particularly ''terrible'' for killing and slaughtering the (mostly good and heroic) Humans of Lordaeron and High Elves of Quel'Thalas (as you control Arthas as the VillainProtagonist at this point) in the first five stages of the Undead Campaign in ''Reign of Chaos'', then you could might feel better in the sixth stage, "Blackrock and Roll, too!", since it is an EvilVersusEvil stage where your enemy is the Blackrock Clan, a villainous faction of the Orc Orcs who remains worshipping continue to worship demons and doesn't don't join Thrall's Horde. The next two stages after this have you fight against heroic Humans again, however.
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