History YMMV / Voltron

15th Jul '16 5:47:44 AM Michael_McManus
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* NarmCharm: Sven's Norwegian accent is completely ridiculous and out of place. He's still the show's EnsembleDarkhorse.
16th Jun '16 4:05:48 PM RichardX1
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Whatever else you might think of the show, that central theme is remembered by millions for a ''reason''. (Well, okay, [[EarWorm two reasons]].)



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Whatever else you might think of the show, that central theme is remembered by millions for a ''reason''. (Well, okay, [[EarWorm two reasons]].)
13th Jun '16 6:22:03 PM luisedgarf
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* {{Woolseyism}}: In the Mexican Spanish dub, the ''Loved by good, feared by evil'' line in the opening of both series was translated as ''Amado por los justos, temido por los cobardes'' (Loved by the just, Feared by the cowards), who sounds probably more epic than the English version.
12th Jun '16 11:25:10 PM TitoMosquito
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* HilariousInHindsight: One episode has Lance taking the Blue Lion. In the reboot series, Keith, Lance and Shiro (Sven) now pilot Lions that match their uniform colors as opposed to previous [[WesternAnimation/VoltronTheThirdDimension sequel]] [[WesternAnimation/VoltronForce series]] having them wear uniforms matching their Lion colors.
11th Jun '16 6:05:36 PM Pren
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: ''So'' many kids thought Pidge was a girl.
26th Apr '16 7:29:59 PM TitoMosquito
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* NightmareFuel: In episode 2, the scene where the space explorers travel through a foggy woods and hear a lion's roar is pretty unsettling.
19th Apr '16 9:21:15 AM Berrenta
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* GetOnWithItAlready: The titular character doesn't show up (except in flashbacks) until the end of episode four, and getting the story to that point is agonizingly slow at times.
* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff GoLion Is Big In America]]: ''Voltron'' is far better known in America than ''[=GoLion=]'' is in Japan. In fact, ''[=GoLion=]'' is almost forgotten there. This is because when the show premiered in Japan, there were already ''tons'' of transforming/combining mecha shows on airwaves, while in America it was pretty much the only show of its kind (not to mention it had to compete with Super Sentai in Japan too, which America didn't get until the early 90s with ''Franchise/PowerRangers'').

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* GetOnWithItAlready: The titular character doesn't show up (except in flashbacks) until the end of episode four, and getting the story to that point is agonizingly slow at times.
* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff GoLion Is Big In America]]:
GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: ''Voltron'' is far better known in America than ''[=GoLion=]'' is in Japan. In fact, ''[=GoLion=]'' is almost forgotten there. This is because when the show premiered in Japan, there were already ''tons'' of transforming/combining mecha shows on airwaves, while in America it was pretty much the only show of its kind (not to mention it had to compete with Super Sentai in Japan too, which America didn't get until the early 90s with ''Franchise/PowerRangers'').


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* SlowPacedBeginning: The titular character doesn't show up (except in flashbacks) until the end of episode four, and getting the story to that point is agonizingly slow at times.
30th Jan '16 5:41:58 PM TitoMosquito
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* BrokenBase: Voltron Vs. Anime/GoLion, which was the better show? There have been plenty who strongly preferred [=GoLion=] due to its grim DarkerAndEdgier dramatic style that is far easier to take it seriously compared to Voltron. Some have even hated WEP for butchering a dark and intense Mecha anime series by turning it into a {{Narm}}-filled LighterAndSofter generic Mecha Anime {{Macekre}} [[MerchandiseDriven just for the sake of cashing in on Voltron's merchandise. Some [=GoLion=] fans often make accusations that the only reason why anyone would still like Voltron is strictly due to nostalgia. However, there are those who still openly like Voltron even being well aware of how different it was compared to the original Japanese series. Some would even go so far as to prefer Voltron and find that some of the changes were actually an improvement. Some of them would also accuse [=GoLion=] of being a fairly generic grimdark anime that relied on gory violent scenes just for the sake of cheap shock value...despite still being a giant robot anime based on a multicolored lion robot. There's also been mention of how over time Lotor became a bit more of a conflicted and rounded character in Voltron compared to how he was a one-dimensional depraved CompleteMonster in the original. And of course one of the biggest reasons why anyone would prefer Voltron over [=GoLion=] was Sven/Shirogane's fate as noted under the {{Woolseyism}} entry below that even Japanese viewers preffered the idea of Sven getting injured than making a comeback over him getting KilledOffForReal early.

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* BrokenBase: Voltron Vs. Anime/GoLion, which was the better show? There have been plenty who strongly preferred [=GoLion=] due to its grim DarkerAndEdgier dramatic style that is far easier to take it seriously compared to Voltron. Some have even hated WEP for butchering a dark and intense Mecha anime series by turning it into a {{Narm}}-filled LighterAndSofter generic Mecha Anime {{Macekre}} [[MerchandiseDriven just for the sake of cashing in on Voltron's merchandise.merchandise]]. Some [=GoLion=] fans often make accusations that the only reason why anyone would still like Voltron is strictly due to nostalgia. However, there are those who still openly like Voltron even being well aware of how different it was compared to the original Japanese series. Some would even go so far as to prefer Voltron and find that some of the changes were actually an improvement. Some of them would also accuse [=GoLion=] of being a fairly generic grimdark anime that relied on gory violent scenes just for the sake of cheap shock value...despite still being a giant robot anime based on a multicolored lion robot. There's also been mention of how over time Lotor became a bit more of a conflicted and rounded character in Voltron compared to how he was a one-dimensional depraved CompleteMonster in the original. And of course one of the biggest reasons why anyone would prefer Voltron over [=GoLion=] was Sven/Shirogane's fate as noted under the {{Woolseyism}} entry below that even Japanese viewers preffered the idea of Sven getting injured than making a comeback over him getting KilledOffForReal early.
6th Jan '16 8:19:35 AM TheGingerArtist
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* FoeYay[=/=]LesYay: Allura and Merla, especially in "A Ghost of a Chance" where Merla calls her lovely ("You're just as lovely as they say."), laments they could've been good friends ("Too bad you're not a bad guy, we have much more fun."), and gets pissed at Lotor for trying to take Allura away ("She's my prisoner!", "I'll do exactly as I please with Allura!").
5th Jan '16 5:30:25 PM tenuousbreaker
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* BrokenBase: Voltron Vs. Anime/GoLion, which was the better show? There have been plenty who strongly preferred [=GoLion=] due to its grim DarkerAndEdgier dramatic style that is far easier to take it seriously compared to Voltron. Some have even hated WEP for butchering a dark and intense Mecha anime series by turning it into a {{Narm}}-filled LighterAndSofter generic Mecha Anime {{Macekre}} [[MerchandiseDriven just for the sake of cashing in on Voltron's merchandise.]] (Not too mention often making accustations that the only reason why anyone would still like Voltron is strictly due to Nostalgia.) However there are those who still openly like Voltron even being well aware of how different it was compared to the original Japanese series. Some would even go so far as to prefer Voltron and find that some of the changes were actually an improvement. (Not too mention accuse [=GoLion=] of being a fairly generic Grim Dark anime that relied on gory violent scenes just for the sake of cheap shock value.) Some would point how over time Lotor became a bit more of a conflicted and rounded character in Voltron compared to how he was a one-dimensional depraved CompleteMonster in the original. And of course one of the biggest reasons why anyone would prefer Voltron over [=GoLion=] was Sven/Shirogane's fate as noted under the {{Woolseyism}} entry below that even Japanese viewers preffered the idea of Sven getting injured than making a comeback over him getting KilledOffForReal early.
** Conversely some try to take a more moderate approach by stating that both versions have plenty of merits despite their differences. Namely that while Voltron is considered to be an iconic classic in the US but we should respect how WEP is openly willing to acknowledge [=GoLion=] and worked hard in making sure [=GoLion=] is fully released in the US (and even did a few good-natured jabs at themselves for how they censored the show so much on their Youtube channel). Also some may try to point out that despite how different both ''Voltron'' and ''[=GoLion=]'' can be both versions fully delivered the awesome CombiningMecha anime action that the franchise is well known for.

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* BrokenBase: Voltron Vs. Anime/GoLion, which was the better show? There have been plenty who strongly preferred [=GoLion=] due to its grim DarkerAndEdgier dramatic style that is far easier to take it seriously compared to Voltron. Some have even hated WEP for butchering a dark and intense Mecha anime series by turning it into a {{Narm}}-filled LighterAndSofter generic Mecha Anime {{Macekre}} [[MerchandiseDriven just for the sake of cashing in on Voltron's merchandise.]] (Not too mention Some [=GoLion=] fans often making accustations make accusations that the only reason why anyone would still like Voltron is strictly due to Nostalgia.) However nostalgia. However, there are those who still openly like Voltron even being well aware of how different it was compared to the original Japanese series. Some would even go so far as to prefer Voltron and find that some of the changes were actually an improvement. (Not too mention Some of them would also accuse [=GoLion=] of being a fairly generic Grim Dark grimdark anime that relied on gory violent scenes just for the sake of cheap shock value.) Some would point value...despite still being a giant robot anime based on a multicolored lion robot. There's also been mention of how over time Lotor became a bit more of a conflicted and rounded character in Voltron compared to how he was a one-dimensional depraved CompleteMonster in the original. And of course one of the biggest reasons why anyone would prefer Voltron over [=GoLion=] was Sven/Shirogane's fate as noted under the {{Woolseyism}} entry below that even Japanese viewers preffered the idea of Sven getting injured than making a comeback over him getting KilledOffForReal early.
** Conversely some try to take a more moderate approach by stating that both versions have plenty of merits despite their differences. Namely that while Voltron is considered to be an iconic classic in the US but we WEP should respect how WEP is get some credit openly willing to acknowledge [=GoLion=] and worked hard in making sure [=GoLion=] is fully released in the US (and even did a few good-natured jabs at themselves for how they censored the show so much on their Youtube channel). Also that some may try to point out that despite how different both ''Voltron'' and ''[=GoLion=]'' can be be, both versions fully delivered the awesome CombiningMecha anime action that the franchise is well known for. for.
* CutAndPasteTranslation: One of the better known American examples of this from the 80s, alongside Anime/{{Robotech}}, combining Anime/GoLion and Anime/DairuggerXV, the two parts known to Voltron fans as "Lion Voltron" and "Vehicle Voltron" respectively based on the main mechs of both.



* {{Macekre}}: Played straight in terms of some of the plot, like making the villains somewhat more one-dimensional, or in terms of LullDestruction (holy cow the LullDestruction). Sven's not-deaths in particular also seem weird when (for example) most of his comrades are visibly in tears over the fact. However, ''Voltron'' also subverts the trope; most people consider the show a "good" Macekre in that while the changes were ''vast'', they were chiefly done so that the show would even be airable in the US, and the edits didn't remove what made the show fun in the first place (e.g., people in combining robot lions having one BigDamnHeroes moment after another).
** That and say what you will about how WEP tried to downplay the violence and remove the gore in the series to uphold a NeverSayDie rule. But WEP on the other hand had no problem with fanservice though as Princess Allura's InnocentFanserviceGirl scenes were kept intact such as incidents like her showing up wearing nothing but a bath towel and her SlipperySwimsuit scene when the Voltron Force when dipping in the lake. (In which the guys definitely noticed both incidents.) So while Voltron may've have tried to tone down the violence, the fanservice was pretty much kept intact in which some times to the point of GettingCrapPastTheRadar levels.

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* {{Macekre}}: Played straight in terms of some of the plot, like making the villains somewhat more one-dimensional, or in terms of LullDestruction (holy cow cow, the LullDestruction). Sven's not-deaths in particular also seem weird when (for example) most of his comrades are visibly in tears over the fact. However, ''Voltron'' also subverts the trope; most people consider the show a "good" Macekre in that while the changes were ''vast'', they were chiefly done so that the show would even be airable in the US, and the edits didn't remove what made the show fun in the first place (e.g., people in combining robot lions having one BigDamnHeroes moment after another).
** That and say what you will about how WEP tried to downplay the violence and remove the gore in the series to uphold a NeverSayDie rule. But WEP on the other hand they had no problem with fanservice though fanservice, as Princess Allura's InnocentFanserviceGirl scenes were kept intact such as incidents like her showing up wearing nothing but a bath towel and her SlipperySwimsuit scene when the Voltron Force when dipping in the lake. (In which the guys definitely noticed both incidents.) So while Voltron may've have tried to tone down the violence, the fanservice was pretty much kept intact in which some times to the point of GettingCrapPastTheRadar levels.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: '''''Yikes''''', it can be hard to understand why anyone ever liked this show, when a modern viewer sees it. The LullDestruction, the StockFootage combining sequences, the formulaic episodes... it's worth remembering that Voltron really ''was'' bigger than ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' at one point, though.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: '''''Yikes''''', it can be hard to understand why anyone ever liked this show, the original show show when a modern viewer sees it. The LullDestruction, the StockFootage combining sequences, the formulaic episodes... it's worth remembering that Voltron really ''was'' bigger than ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' at one point, though.
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