History YMMV / Venom

28th Jun '17 11:40:05 PM KingClark
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Venom is either one of the best ''Spider-Man'' villains of all time and/or one of Marvel's best anti-heroes or a textbook case of everything that's wrong with the NinetiesAntiHero archetype and all the other tropes associated with UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Venom is either one of the best ''Spider-Man'' villains of all time and/or one of Marvel's best anti-heroes or a textbook case of everything that's wrong with the NinetiesAntiHero archetype and all the other tropes associated with UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks. Pretty much everyone agrees that [[EvilIsCool his character design is great]], but the actual character himself has proven to be divisive.
28th Jun '17 11:39:01 PM KingClark
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Venom is either one of the best ''Spider-Man'' villains of all time or one of Marvel's best anti-heroes or a textbook case of everything that's wrong with the NinetiesAntiHero archetype and all the other tropes associated with UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Venom is either one of the best ''Spider-Man'' villains of all time or and/or one of Marvel's best anti-heroes or a textbook case of everything that's wrong with the NinetiesAntiHero archetype and all the other tropes associated with UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks.
21st Jun '17 10:24:22 PM TheSwordsman
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* JerkassWoobie: Eddie Brock. Despite all the terrible things he's willing to do, seeing him extremely desperate for the Symbiote can be very sad at times, not to mention the fact his normal life isn't exactly peachy either.

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* JerkassWoobie: Eddie Brock. Despite all the terrible things he's willing to do, seeing him try to be a hero and being extremely desperate for the Symbiote can be very sad at times, not to mention the fact his normal life isn't exactly peachy either.



** The symbiote itself. [[spoiler:The ''Guardians of the Galaxy'''s retcon only amps this up further by revealing that the symbiotes are naturally benevolent and consider themselves noble warriors that help worthy hosts become true heroes. But somewhere down the line, a symbiote bonded to an unworthy host and was driven insane by bloodlust, leading to the foundation of the empire of carnivorous Lovecraftian parasites they've been portrayed as ever since the original ''Planet of the Symbiotes''. The Venom symbiote was the first in its lineage to be born without that bloodlust, and was imprisoned for wanting to be more like its noble ancestors.]] It's freed by Spider-Man and deems him a worthy host, but when he finds out it's alive he panics and rejects it. When Eddie Brock shows up about to commit suicide, the symbiote is drawn to his obsession with Spider-Man and bonds to him, but is driven insane with bloodlust, which just gets worse over time. And now it's lost Flash only to find a host in Lee Price. Initially it is very excited when it finds out Lee is a soldier like Flash but it turns out Lee is a sociopath. Now the poor thing is forced back into the role of a super-villain.

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** The symbiote itself. [[spoiler:The ''Guardians of the Galaxy'''s retcon only amps this up further by revealing that the symbiotes are naturally benevolent and consider themselves noble warriors that help worthy hosts become true heroes. But somewhere down the line, a symbiote bonded to an unworthy host and was driven insane by bloodlust, leading to the foundation of the empire of carnivorous Lovecraftian parasites they've been portrayed as ever since the original ''Planet of the Symbiotes''. The Venom symbiote was the first in its lineage to be born without that bloodlust, and was imprisoned for wanting to be more like its noble ancestors.]] It's freed by Spider-Man and deems him a worthy host, but when he finds out it's alive he panics and rejects it. When Eddie Brock shows up about to commit suicide, the symbiote is drawn to his obsession with Spider-Man and bonds to him, but is driven insane with bloodlust, which just gets worse over time. And now it's lost Flash only to find a host in Lee Price. Initially it is very excited when it finds out Lee is a soldier like Flash but it turns out Lee is a sociopath. Now the The poor thing is was abused and forced back into the role of a super-villain.super-villain until Eddie reclaimed it.
28th May '17 1:04:10 PM TheSwordsman
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Venom is either one of the best ''Spider-Man'' villains of all time or a textbook case of everything that's wrong with the NinetiesAntiHero archetype and all the other tropes associated with UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Venom is either one of the best ''Spider-Man'' villains of all time or one of Marvel's best anti-heroes or a textbook case of everything that's wrong with the NinetiesAntiHero archetype and all the other tropes associated with UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks.
24th May '17 11:54:05 PM Arawn999
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** With the symbiote's return to Eddie, many fans are happy to have the original Venom back. Others are disappointed by the fact that both Eddie's and the symbiote's decade-or-so of CharacterDevelopment has been undone, especially in light of Eddie's actions in the preceding ''Carnage'' Vol. 2 series and the symbiote's in ''Venom: Space Knight''.

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** With the symbiote's return to Eddie, many fans are happy to have the original Venom back. Others are disappointed by the fact possibility that both Eddie's and the symbiote's decade-or-so of CharacterDevelopment has been undone, especially in light of Eddie's actions in the preceding ''Carnage'' Vol. 2 series and the symbiote's in ''Venom: Space Knight''. With the revelation of how Flash and the symbiote being separated in ''Venom'' #150, fans of Agent Venom are even more dissatisfied.
22nd May '17 4:35:53 PM KingClark
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment:

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: BaseBreakingCharacter: Venom is either one of the best ''Spider-Man'' villains of all time or a textbook case of everything that's wrong with the NinetiesAntiHero archetype and all the other tropes associated with UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks.
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19th May '17 12:42:33 PM JRads47
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** ComicBook/{{Bane}} is usually considered Venom's [[AlternateCompanyEquivalent DC counterpart]]. Then Creator/TomHardy, who played Bane in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', was cast as Venom in [[Film/Venom2018 its solo film]].
15th May '17 11:00:35 PM SwimToTheMoon
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''Welcome to Hell'' and ''Black Metal'' for starters.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''Welcome to Hell'' and ''Black Metal'' for starters. ''At War With Satan'' is high up on people's lists, too.




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** ''At War With Satan'' got a rather mixed reception at the time for the title track's ridiculous length (just a few seconds shy of 20 minutes) and rather cheesy concept (a Heaven-and-Hell battle where Hell wins), and the OvershadowedByControversy status it got in the UK which led to the album being banned from HMV didn't help either. Nowadays, it's often seen as one of their best albums.
8th May '17 7:13:06 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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*** Adding to Venomized Mary Jane, She-Venom (Eddie's ex-wife) has a ''big'' following despite the limited appearances she had and of course, being StuffedInAFridge. One side is because of Ann's appearance as She-Venom, her ''completely '''insane''' actions as She-Venom'' of course, the tragic back story about her broken marriage with Eddie. Fans also felt [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter writers wasted whatever potential content they could with her]] by killing her off, especially when Ann told Eddie she felt the symbiote would bond with her ''permanently'', which would make for interesting stories. Fans were somewhat happy with Ann's appearance (alive and well) in the mobile game ''Spider-Man Unlimited'', which not only featured her as She-Venom, but able to control the symbiote.


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** Patrica, the second She-Venom, mainly due to not being as memorable as Ann and barely appearing as She-Venom.
23rd Apr '17 10:02:36 PM ztyran
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** Another ''What If?'' story asked what if Deadpool had the symbiote, and it's later revealed that he briefly did before Spider-Man.
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