History YMMV / VelvetUnderground

14th Aug '16 8:37:11 PM gewunomox
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* AwesomeMusic: Pretty much all of their albums. There's a reason why they're one of the most influential bands of all time.
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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Pretty much all of their albums. There's a reason why they're one of the most influential bands of all time.
** ''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'', ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', and ''Music/{{Loaded}}''.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: ''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'', ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', and ''Music/{{Loaded}}''.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: "The Gift" from ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'' as a whole, notably the in-song "audience"'s reaction.
** "Temptation Inside of Your Heart", with all the random StudioChatter during the song (including Reed's [[ArtisticLicensePhysics "Electricity comes from other planets!"]])



* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: "The Gift" from ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'' as a whole, notably the in-song "audience"'s reaction.
** "Temptation Inside of Your Heart", with all the random StudioChatter during the song (including Reed's [[ArtisticLicensePhysics "Electricity comes from other planets!"]])



* ILikedItBetterWhenItSucked: The '60s and '70s live recordings were almost all recorded by amateurs, because the band had no idea that people would want to hear live performances of theirs decades down the road, and as one Allmusic review states, "Whether the original Velvets rehearsed regularly or not, in concert their every movement appeared to be a step into the absolute unknown."[[hottip:*:''1969 Live'' is the exception to the "recorded by amateurs" rule, and also appears to be the only recording from this period not sourced from an audience recording; however, even so there are issues with the sound quality on reissues due to the original four-track tapes apparently having been lost.]] Meanwhile, the live material from their 1990s reunion is professionally recorded and meticulously rehearsed, and thus there is a sort of familiarity to the material that many find disconcerting.

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* ILikedItBetterWhenItSucked: The '60s and '70s live recordings were almost all recorded by amateurs, because the band had no idea that people would want to hear live performances of theirs decades down the road, and as one Allmusic review states, "Whether the original Velvets rehearsed regularly or not, in concert their every movement appeared to be a step into the absolute unknown. "[[hottip:*:''1969 Live'' is the exception to the "recorded by amateurs" rule, and also appears to be the only recording from this period not sourced from an audience recording; however, even so there are issues with the sound quality on reissues due to the original four-track tapes apparently having been lost.]] Meanwhile, the live material from their 1990s 1990's reunion is professionally recorded and meticulously rehearsed, and thus there is a sort of familiarity to the material that many find disconcerting.



* TheScrappy: Doug Yule gets treated like this despite his contributions to the last two albums - he wasn't invited to the 1993 reunion (although he said he would've declined anyway if he was asked), and was even excluded from the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame induction.

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* TheScrappy: Doug Yule gets treated like this despite his contributions to the last two albums - -- he wasn't invited to the 1993 reunion (although he said he would've declined anyway if he was asked), and was even excluded from the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of of Fame induction.



* SophomoreSlump: ''White Light/White Heat'' is a notable aversion. It's often cited by critics as one of the best albums of all time and was as crucial to the development of PunkRock as the first album was.
* VindicatedByHistory: Music/BrianEno [[BeamMeUpScotty is credited with]] saying it best: only 1,000 people bought ''The Velvet Underground & Nico'', and all of them started a band.
** We can '''NOT''' leave out how the VU, along with Music/FrankZappa, were '''[[ThePowerOfRock/RealLife HUGELY INFLUENTIAL]]''' on the Velvet Revolution led by playwright Vaclav Havel, which led to the overthrow of the Stalinist dictatorship in Czechoslovakia. Havel later became the country's President and continued in office after the Velvet Divorce peacefully split the country into UsefulNotes/TheCzechRepublic and UsefulNotes/{{Slovakia}}. Reed AND Zappa would both go on to separately interview Havel. (Reed's can be found in his book ''Between Thought And Expression: Selected Lyrics of Lou Reed''.)

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* SophomoreSlump: ''White Light/White Light / White Heat'' is a notable aversion. It's often cited by critics as one of the best albums of all time and was as crucial to the development of PunkRock as the first album was.
* VindicatedByHistory: Music/BrianEno [[BeamMeUpScotty is credited with]] saying it best: only Only 1,000 people bought ''The Velvet Underground & Nico'', and all of them started a band.
band.
** We can '''NOT''' leave out how the VU, along with Music/FrankZappa, were '''[[ThePowerOfRock/RealLife HUGELY INFLUENTIAL]]''' on the Velvet Revolution led by playwright Vaclav Havel, which led to the overthrow of the Stalinist dictatorship in Czechoslovakia. Havel later became the country's President and continued in office after the Velvet Divorce peacefully split the country into UsefulNotes/TheCzechRepublic and UsefulNotes/{{Slovakia}}. Reed AND Zappa would both go on to separately interview Havel. (Reed's can be found in his book ''Between Thought And and Expression: Selected Lyrics of Lou Reed''.)
8th Mar '16 3:50:25 PM DavidDelony
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Songs about drugs and sadomasochism at ear-splitting volume? Most music fans in the '60s were terrified of the band.
13th Jul '15 8:18:38 AM bt8257
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** "Temptation Inside of Your Heart", with all the random StudioChatter during the song (including Reed's [[ArtisticLicensePhysics "Electricity comes from other planets!")]]

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** "Temptation Inside of Your Heart", with all the random StudioChatter during the song (including Reed's [[ArtisticLicensePhysics "Electricity comes from other planets!")]]planets!"]])



* {{Misblamed}}: It's not Yule's fault ''[[Music/{{Squeeze1973}} Squeeze]]'' exists. It's Steve Sesnick's.

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* {{Misblamed}}: MisBlamed: It's not Yule's fault ''[[Music/{{Squeeze1973}} Squeeze]]'' exists. It's Steve Sesnick's.
6th Jul '15 2:45:50 PM bt8257
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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]: ''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'', ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', and ''Music/{{Loaded}}''.
* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Funny]]: "The Gift" from ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'' as a whole, notably the in-song "audience"'s reaction.

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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]: CrowningMusicOfAwesome: ''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'', ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', and ''Music/{{Loaded}}''.
* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Funny]]: CrowningMomentOfFunny: "The Gift" from ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'' as a whole, notably the in-song "audience"'s reaction.
6th Jul '15 2:45:13 PM bt8257
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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment Of Funny]]: "The Gift" from ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'' as a whole, notably the in-song "audience"'s reaction.

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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment Of of Funny]]: "The Gift" from ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'' as a whole, notably the in-song "audience"'s reaction.
17th Jun '15 9:45:29 AM bt8257
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* ILikedItBetterWhenItSucked: The '60s and '70s live recordings were almost all recorded by amateurs, because the band had no idea that people would want to hear live performances of theirs decades down the road, and as one Allmusic review states, "Whether the original Velvets rehearsed regularly or not, in concert their every movement appeared to be a step into the absolute unknown."[[hottip:*:''1969 Live'' is the exception to the "recorded by amateurs" rule, and also appears to be the only recording from this period not sourced from an audience recording; however, even so there are issues with the sound quality on reissues due to the original four-track tapes apparently having been lost.]] Meanwhile, the live material from their 1990s reunion is professionally recorded and meticulously rehearsed, and thus there is a sort of familiarity to the material that many people find displeasing.

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* ILikedItBetterWhenItSucked: The '60s and '70s live recordings were almost all recorded by amateurs, because the band had no idea that people would want to hear live performances of theirs decades down the road, and as one Allmusic review states, "Whether the original Velvets rehearsed regularly or not, in concert their every movement appeared to be a step into the absolute unknown."[[hottip:*:''1969 Live'' is the exception to the "recorded by amateurs" rule, and also appears to be the only recording from this period not sourced from an audience recording; however, even so there are issues with the sound quality on reissues due to the original four-track tapes apparently having been lost.]] Meanwhile, the live material from their 1990s reunion is professionally recorded and meticulously rehearsed, and thus there is a sort of familiarity to the material that many people find displeasing.disconcerting.



** Despite this, Yule's contributions to the group should not be overlooked, as he was a multi-instrumentalist just as versatile as Cale, and he brought some strong melodic sensibilities to the group with him. He also often gets MisBlamed for ''Squeeze'', as mentioned above. See [[http://www.richieunterberger.com/vumyth.html here]].

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** Despite this, Yule's contributions to the group should not shouldn't be overlooked, as he was a multi-instrumentalist just as versatile as Cale, and he brought some strong melodic sensibilities to the group with him. He also often gets MisBlamed for ''Squeeze'', as mentioned above. See [[http://www.richieunterberger.com/vumyth.html here]].



-->'''Lou Reed:''' (Introducing "Heroin") Yes, it still exists. Now in the original days, not only was it banned, but they wouldn't take ''advertisments'' for our album because of it. Now here we are doin' it over the radio. [[DeadpanSnarker Very]] [[SarcasmMode funny.]]

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-->'''Lou Reed:''' (Introducing "Heroin") Yes, it still exists. Now in the original days, not only was it banned, but they wouldn't take ''advertisments'' ''advertisements'' for our album because of it. Now here we are doin' it over the radio. [[DeadpanSnarker Very]] [[SarcasmMode funny.]] ]]
6th Jun '15 11:10:18 AM bt8257
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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]: ''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'', ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', and ''Music/{{Loaded}}.

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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]: ''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'', ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', and ''Music/{{Loaded}}.''Music/{{Loaded}}''.
6th Jun '15 11:10:07 AM bt8257
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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]: The first four albums they made.

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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]: The first four albums they made.''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'', ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', and ''Music/{{Loaded}}.
31st May '15 1:55:48 PM bt8257
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* {{Narm}}: Reed yelling "SHE'S TOO BUSY SUCKING ON MY DING DONG" on "Sister Ray". He does it so much it becomes a sort of RunningGag.
** NarmCharm: This said, it's still one of the most beloved songs in the band's back catalogue.



* TheScrappy: Doug Yule gets treated like this despite his contributions to the last two albums - he wasn't invited to the 1993 reunion, and was even excluded from the Rock'n'Roll Hall Of Fame induction.

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* TheScrappy: Doug Yule gets treated like this despite his contributions to the last two albums - he wasn't invited to the 1993 reunion, reunion (although he said he would've declined anyway if he was asked), and was even excluded from the Rock'n'Roll Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame induction.



** Despite this, Yule's contributions to the group should not be overlooked, as he was a multi-instrumentalist almost as versatile as Cale, and he brought some strong melodic sensibilities to the group with him. He also often gets MisBlamed for ''Squeeze'', as mentioned above. See [[http://www.richieunterberger.com/vumyth.html here]].
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While they are a rather influential band that pioneered the use of feedback, noise, and unorthodox tunings, modern listeners sometimes fail to realize why they were so groundbreaking due to how commonplace those things have become among more modern acts like Music/SonicYouth. They were also one of the first bands to actually mention controversial topics such as drugs, sex, violence, and so on, which are now common themes for songs, but in their time, many record stores actually refused to carry their albums due to the objectionable nature of their lyrics.

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** Despite this, Yule's contributions to the group should not be overlooked, as he was a multi-instrumentalist almost just as versatile as Cale, and he brought some strong melodic sensibilities to the group with him. He also often gets MisBlamed for ''Squeeze'', as mentioned above. See [[http://www.richieunterberger.com/vumyth.html here]].
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: While they are a rather influential band that pioneered the use of feedback, noise, and unorthodox tunings, modern listeners sometimes fail to realize why they were so groundbreaking due to how commonplace common those things have become among more modern acts like Music/SonicYouth. They were also one of the first bands to actually mention controversial topics such as drugs, sex, violence, and so on, which are now common themes for songs, but in their time, many record stores actually refused to carry their albums due to the objectionable nature of their lyrics.



* VindicatedByHistory: Music/BrianEno [[BeamMeUpScotty is credited with]] saying it best: only 1,000 people bought ''The Velvet Underground & Nico,'' and all of them started a band.

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* VindicatedByHistory: Music/BrianEno [[BeamMeUpScotty is credited with]] saying it best: only 1,000 people bought ''The Velvet Underground & Nico,'' Nico'', and all of them started a band.



** When Lou Reed died in 2013, the whole Internet exploded with grief.

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** When Lou Reed died in 2013, the whole Internet exploded with grief.grief.
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30th May '15 1:57:11 PM DavidDelony
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: See the note under VindicatedByHistory about their Eastern European popularity. The band was also a major influence on the British PunkRock scene.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff:
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See the note under VindicatedByHistory about their Eastern European popularity. popularity.
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The band was also a major influence on the British PunkRock scene.scene.
** On a regional level, the band had a following in the Boston area. Doug Yule hailed from there.
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