History YMMV / Valkyrie

1st Jul '16 2:19:50 PM JamesAustin
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* [[AmericansHateTingle German Politicians Hate Tom Cruise]]: There was a lot of controversy about Creator/TomCruise playing the role of someone well-respected in Germany for his assassination attempt on Hitler, not helping that this was shortly after his well-known obsession with Scientology and the drama involved. [[DownplayedTrope However this was mostly political complaints, as German filmgoers and directors were more forgiving of the movie and Tom Cruise's role.]]

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* [[AmericansHateTingle German Politicians Hate Tom Cruise]]: AmericansHateTingle: There was a lot of controversy about Creator/TomCruise playing the role of someone well-respected in Germany for his assassination attempt on Hitler, not helping that this was shortly after his well-known obsession with Scientology and the drama involved. [[DownplayedTrope However this was mostly political complaints, as German filmgoers and directors were more forgiving of the movie and Tom Cruise's role.]]
24th Aug '15 3:57:36 PM stewyworks333
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* [[AmericansHateTingle German Politicians Hate Tom Cruise]]: There was a lot of controversy about Creator/TomCruise playing the role of someone well-respected in Germany for his assassination attempt on Hitler, not helping that this was shortly after his well-known obsession with Scientology and the drama involved. [[DownplayedTrope However this was mostly political complaints, as German filmgoers and directors were more forgiving of the movie and Tom Cruise's role.]]
21st Aug '14 4:30:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* ComplexityAddiction: The apparent reason behind the plot's failure. In RealLife, [[LaResistance the military opposition]] had planned ever since the inception of the Valkyrie plot, in chronological order: shoot the Führer at Smolensk (stopped by Field Marshal von Kluge), detonate a bomb hidden in a cognac bottle in his private plane (malfunctioned), detonate a bomb at the display of Russian Army flags at the Berlin Armory (the Führer rushed through and the fuse had no time to engage), [[HeroicSacrifice Axel von dem Bussche's attempt to detonate a bomb hidden in his uniform and die together with Hitler]] (the uniform display got cancelled) and so on.\\
However, Luftwaffe General Karl Koller testified (in front of an American judge after the war) that Stauffenberg and himself often were called to the Führer's study to discuss military issues, alone and carrying their service pistols, [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim simply drawing the pistol and shooting Hitler in the face would have been much quicker and simpler]], even if it assumed [[HeroicSacrifice the perpetrator being shot himself by the guardsmen]] afterwards.
29th Jan '14 3:45:04 AM Nautilus1
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* ComplexityAddiction: The apparent reason behind the plot's failure. In RealLife, [[LaResistance the military opposition]] had planned ever since the inception of the Valkyrie plot, in chronological order: shoot the Führer at Smolensk (stopped by Field Marshal von Kluge), detonate a bomb hidden in a cognac bottle in his private plane (malfunctioned), detonate a bomb at the display of Russian Army flags at the Berlin Armory (the Führer rushed through and the fuse had no time to engage), [[HeroicSacrifice Axel von dem Bussche's attempt to detonate a bomb hidden in his uniform and die together with Hitler]] (the uniform display got cancelled) and so on.\\
However, Luftwaffe General Karl Koller testified (in front of an American judge after the war) that Stauffenberg and himself often were called to the Führer's study to discuss military issues, alone and carrying their service pistols, [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim simply drawing the pistol and shooting Hitler in the face would have been much quicker and simpler]], even if it assumed [[HeroicSacrifice the perpetrator being shot himself by the guardsmen]] afterwards.
3rd May '13 6:11:35 AM Morgenthaler
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* TearJerker:
** The execution scenes, accompanied by a really powerful melody.
** Stauffenberg flinching as his comrades are shot.
** Haeften standing in front of Stauffenberg, shielding him from the firing squad and giving him his few extra seconds of life as a sign of respect and friendship.
** "I'm thinking of earlier times".

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* TearJerker:
** The execution scenes, accompanied by a really powerful melody.
** Stauffenberg flinching as his comrades are shot.
** Haeften standing in front of Stauffenberg, shielding him from the firing squad and giving him his few extra seconds of life as a sign of respect and friendship.
** "I'm thinking of earlier times".
2nd Dec '12 2:55:29 AM LondonPurple
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** Stauffenberg flinching as his comrades are shot.
** Haeften standing in front of Stauffenberg, shielding him from the firing squad and giving him his few extra seconds of life as a sign of respect and friendship.
28th Apr '12 1:42:41 AM khalini
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* HoYay: At one point in the movie, it seems like Lieutenent Haeften has a bit of a crush on Stauffenberg.
16th Apr '12 12:30:01 PM SeptimusHeap
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* XPacHeat: TomCruise and [[ChurchOfHappyology his religion]] are disliked, rather than the production values or any historical inaccuracies of the film itself.
10th Jul '11 8:38:29 AM MagBas
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Apparently the [[http://www.verbrechen-der-wehrmacht.de/docs/home_e.htm German officer corps actually cared about Jewish people, was disgusted by their slaughter]], and masterminded a plot to assassinate Hitler that would include the closing of [=KZs=]. [[http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/GENOCIDE/reviewstr12.htm Never mind Stauffenberg's views of Poland as "an unbelievable rabble" best under the whip, and their country as one filled with "a lot of Jews and a lot of cross-breeds"]].
** The German officer corps, especially the aristocratic elements that made up a fair chunk of it and the plotters, were primarily monarchist and extremely conservative. Tolerant democrats who believed in equality they were ''not''. In many cases, the plotters only turned on Hitler because he was losing the war, and had every intention of fighting on against the Soviet Union.
** They weren't ALL so cynical. Tresckow in particular had genuine moral objections to Hitler and believed the plot had to go forward even if it was doomed to fail just to show that there was a resistance (not surprisingly, the movie includes this).
** The only hint that they "care" about the Jewish people is the fact that they planned to close down the concentration camps. In all honesty, that doesn't really mean they actually "care" about the prisoners. The concentration camps themselves cost Germany a whole lot of money and manpower to maintain. Shutting it down could just be chalked down to prudence and pragmatism. Really, just because somebody has racist views doesn't mean he wants them all killed by their own hands.

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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Apparently the [[http://www.verbrechen-der-wehrmacht.de/docs/home_e.htm German officer corps actually cared about Jewish people, was disgusted by their slaughter]], and masterminded a plot to assassinate Hitler that would include the closing of [=KZs=]. [[http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/GENOCIDE/reviewstr12.htm Never mind Stauffenberg's views of Poland as "an unbelievable rabble" best under the whip, and their country as one filled with "a lot of Jews and a lot of cross-breeds"]].
** The German officer corps, especially the aristocratic elements that made up a fair chunk of it and the plotters, were primarily monarchist and extremely conservative. Tolerant democrats who believed in equality they were ''not''. In many cases, the plotters only turned on Hitler because he was losing the war, and had every intention of fighting on against the Soviet Union.
** They weren't ALL so cynical. Tresckow in particular had genuine moral objections to Hitler and believed the plot had to go forward even if it was doomed to fail just to show that there was a resistance (not surprisingly, the movie includes this).
** The only hint that they "care" about the Jewish people is the fact that they planned to close down the concentration camps. In all honesty, that doesn't really mean they actually "care" about the prisoners. The concentration camps themselves cost Germany a whole lot of money and manpower to maintain. Shutting it down could just be chalked down to prudence and pragmatism. Really, just because somebody has racist views doesn't mean he wants them all killed by their own hands.



* XPacHeat: Much of the {{hatedom}} from this movie appears to stem from dislike of TomCruise and [[ChurchOfHappyology his religion]], rather than the production values or any historical inaccuracies of the film itself.

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* XPacHeat: Much of the {{hatedom}} from this movie appears to stem from dislike of XPacHeat: TomCruise and [[ChurchOfHappyology his religion]], religion]] are disliked, rather than the production values or any historical inaccuracies of the film itself.
16th Mar '11 8:58:10 PM djbj
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* [=~Hey, It's That Guy!~=]: EddieIzzard as Gen. Erich Fellgiebel.



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