History YMMV / UltimateSpider-Man

22nd Jun '17 10:49:56 AM EraserheadBayB
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* MostAnnoyingSound: That fucking monkey screech...
21st Jun '17 6:38:06 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* AccidentalInnuendo: A rare visual example in the first episode. When Spider-man is monologueing his backstory we get a brief look at at Uncle Ben's grave and... well, it looks rather phallic shaped unfortunately. It continues to look like that in it's later appearances.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Nova is [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness notably more serious]] in any episode where The Guardians of The Galaxy appear. Considering he would have fought at least a few cosmic threats with them fans genuinely believe his attitude while on Earth is a reflection that he may view the threats Earth faces as being significantly less frightening, and some of his stupidity about certain things being due to possibly not being used to Earth culture. The fact that we still don't know ''exactly'' how he became Nova just complicates matters in the eyes of some fans.
** Supporters of the show have pointed out there may be reason for Nova's, White Tiger's, Power Man's, and Iron Fist's jerkass/unheroic behaviour in the first season. Prior to meeting Spidey all they had was S.H.I.E.L.D. training and nothing else. [[note]] Except for Nova, who previously worked with The Guardians of The Galaxy, a group of Anti-heroes. [[/note]] They were trained in combat, told to follow certain protocol and Fury's command, and nothing else. Add the fact that 3/4ths of them have some level of DarkAndTroubledPast and the fact that they all have nowhere else to really go, [[spoiler: Nova and White Tiger (and Power Man at the time) are latter stated to be orphans. Iron Fist left the material possessions as an heir behind,]] you can very easily view them as being ChildSoldiers who haven't had the chance to develope a strong sense of morals. Then [[AllLovingHero Spider]]-[[MoralityPet Man]] comes into their lives and they become progressively [[TookALevelInKindness nicer]] and more inclined to do what's morally right and act as their own people rather than just do everything Fury tells them to do thanks to Spidey's influence. After each of their focus episodes in season 2 you can argue that their CharacterDevelopment in this regards has come full circle, and that they’re all proper heroes.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: A rare visual example in the first episode. When Spider-man is monologueing monologuing his backstory we get a brief look at at Uncle Ben's grave and... well, it looks rather phallic shaped unfortunately. It continues to look like that in it's later appearances.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Nova is [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness notably more serious]] in any episode where The the Guardians of The the Galaxy appear. Considering he would have fought at least a few cosmic threats with them fans genuinely believe his attitude while on Earth is a reflection that he may view the threats Earth faces as being significantly less frightening, and some of his stupidity about certain things being due to possibly not being used to Earth culture. The fact that we still don't know ''exactly'' how he became Nova just complicates matters in the eyes of some fans.
** Supporters of the show have pointed out there may be reason for Nova's, White Tiger's, Power Man's, and Iron Fist's jerkass/unheroic behaviour in the first season. Prior to meeting Spidey all they had was S.H.I.E.L.D. training and nothing else. [[note]] Except for Nova, who previously worked with The the Guardians of The the Galaxy, a group of Anti-heroes. [[/note]] They were trained in combat, told to follow certain protocol and Fury's command, and nothing else. Add the fact that 3/4ths of them have some level of DarkAndTroubledPast and the fact that they all have nowhere else to really go, [[spoiler: Nova and White Tiger (and Power Man at the time) are latter stated to be orphans. Iron Fist left the material possessions as an heir behind,]] you can very easily view them as being ChildSoldiers who haven't had the chance to develope a strong sense of morals. Then [[AllLovingHero Spider]]-[[MoralityPet Man]] comes into their lives and they become progressively [[TookALevelInKindness nicer]] and more inclined to do what's morally right and act as their own people rather than just do everything Fury tells them to do thanks to Spidey's influence. After each of their focus episodes in season 2 you can argue that their CharacterDevelopment in this regards has come full circle, and that they’re all proper heroes.



* CriticProof: Despite the vocal hatedom the show has, it's currently heading into its fourth season. The toy line also sells ''very well'' despite the frequent complaints about how MerchandiseDriven the series is. This makes some sense however due to how immensely popular it is with its younger target audience, parents, and people who liked the light heartedness of the first two season.

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* CriticProof: Despite the vocal hatedom the show has, it's currently heading into its fourth season. The toy line also sells ''very well'' despite the frequent complaints about how MerchandiseDriven the series is. This makes some sense however due to how immensely popular it is with its younger target audience, parents, and people who liked the light heartedness light-heartedness of the first two season.
12th Jun '17 2:08:55 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Attempting to even ''hint'' that this show had something to do with WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan getting CutShort ([[MisBlamed it didn't]]) is a surefire way to get the entire show's fandom coming at you with butcher knives.

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** Attempting to even ''hint'' that this show had something to do with WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' getting CutShort ([[MisBlamed it didn't]]) is a surefire way to get the entire show's fandom coming at you with butcher knives.
8th May '17 5:36:04 AM NightShade96
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* HoYay: Now has its own [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HoYay/UltimateSpider-Man]]

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* HoYay: Now has its own [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HoYay/UltimateSpider-Man]][[HoYay/{{UltimateSpider-Man}} page]].



** Clark Gregg and J.K. Simmons reprising their roles as Agent Coulson and J. Jonah Jameson, both of whom are {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s and pretty big ones at that. And then [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter they basically ignored the badassery and humor that made them famous in the first place.]]

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** Clark Gregg and J.K. Simmons reprising their roles as Agent Coulson and J. Jonah Jameson, both of whom are {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s and pretty big ones at that. And that, and then [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter they basically ignored the badassery and humor that made them famous in the first place.]]



** The whole episode about Spider-Man being turned into a pig and chased by the Asgardians would have been avoided if Spider-Man had not ''[[IdiotBall ignored his spider-sense]]'''s warning to ''not'' eat a free hot-dog offered to him for no apparent reason. Though this is [[HandWave Hand Waved]] by Spidey saying the Spider Sense ALWAYS goes off around that kind of food.

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** The whole episode about Spider-Man being turned into a pig and chased by the Asgardians would have been avoided if Spider-Man had not ''[[IdiotBall ignored his spider-sense]]'''s warning to ''not'' eat a free hot-dog offered to him for no apparent reason. Though this is [[HandWave Hand Waved]] {{Hand Wave}}d by Spidey saying the Spider Sense ALWAYS ''always'' goes off around that kind of food.
16th Apr '17 6:33:39 PM NightShade96
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: ''Almost the entire Spider-Man fandom thought it would, with many guessing it wouldn't so much as get a second season.'' Despite this it has grown incredibly popular with both children and parents, as well as people who enjoy the [[AvertedTrope aversion]] of ItsTheSameNowItSucks, ''and'' being the first Spidey animated series in ''about'' a decade to not get CutShort.

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: ''Almost the entire Spider-Man fandom thought it would, with many guessing it wouldn't so much as get a second season.'' Despite this this, it has grown incredibly popular with both children and parents, as well as people who enjoy the [[AvertedTrope aversion]] of ItsTheSameNowItSucks, ''and'' being the first Spidey animated series in ''about'' a decade to not get CutShort.



** Let's just say the show isn't very subtle about Spider-Man having to learn responsibilities, although a common complaint against the show is that there's no reason for him to learn about responsibility from Nick Fury because he had already learned the importance of responsibility from his own origin. Furthermore, as shown in this list below, [[DesignatedHero Nick Fury is far from the most responsible authority figure]].

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** Let's just say that the show isn't very subtle about Spider-Man having to learn responsibilities, although a common complaint against the show is that there's no reason for him to learn about responsibility from Nick Fury because he had already learned the importance of responsibility from his own origin. Furthermore, as shown in this list below, [[DesignatedHero Nick Fury is far from the most responsible authority figure]].



* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Season 2 had several episodes dedicated to going over the backgrounds of White Tiger, Nova, Power Man and Iron Fist, which can be viewed as being (partially) in response to fan complaints about how Spidey is expected to trust them with ''everything'' when he knows nothing about them other than their names and aliases.
** Spider-Noir and his universe's version of MJ received a decent amount of ShipTease, which may have had something to do with the mass amounts of complaints over MJ's barely existent presence in the show.
** Deadpool's inclusion could be looked at as this, considering a lot of people said this show's humor would've worked better in a Deadpool cartoon rather than in a Spidey cartoon.
** Some fans, while receptive, were rather confused by the various changes done to the Peter Parker character model. In "Iron Vulture" some of his dialogue indicates that the events of the first three seasons took place over two or three years, justifying the change as Peter was only 15 when the show started and more than likely hadn't finished puberty yet.
** Nova and Fury, two of the most hated characters in the show, mysteriously disappear at the start of season 4 and [[spoiler: only reappear near the end of the season, and in extremely minor roles to boot.]] While there is a plotline involving finding them that same season it's rarely ever touched upon. Their absence is no doubt a result of the aforementioned hatred they've received.
** Given how disliked 3/4ths of Spidey's original team was in season 1 their phasing out in season 3, and getting replaced with more spider themed characters was more than likely this.
** Arguably the treatment Sandman gets after his first appearance is this. Prior to the show it's stated that he was left on an uninhabited island by S.H.I.E.L.D. ...but for unknown reasons. The reason was implied to be because he and his powers were so dangerous, however the facts that he didn't seem all ''that'' much older than the team and several things pointing (intentionally or not on the writer's part) that he didn't originally suffer from the psychosis he displayed in his first episode proper, but rather he went full on GoMadFromTheIsolation due to being on the island for an unknown amount of time (possibly since he was a ''child'' given how young he looks}... Well, let's just say fans didn't react very well, and the episode is considered by many to be one of the bigger examples of Fury's DesignatedHero status. Subsequent episodes however go on the humanize Sandman further, and showing him attempting to be a hero (if not just simply a good person.) Eventually in Season 4 Spidey takes him [[spoiler: to a relatively uneventful area where he can live peacefully]] while also giving the choice to [[spoiler: potentially join his team one day]], effectively ending his character arc for now. Season 4 also introduced fellow elemental [[spoiler: Hydro-Man]] who was in a similar position as Sandman but is most definitely a immoral psychopath through and through. He also appears to be ''significantly older'' than Sandman, which arguably justifies Fury's actions against Sandman on a pragmatic level.
** MJ returning near the end of Season 4, as well as having a major role, seems to have been brought on by the season-and-a-half full of fans complaining about her being PutOnTheBus.
** The series finale [[spoiler: has Spider-Man being forced to save the day on his own after his SHIELD tech is destroyed and all of his teammates are captured. Aunt May even gives him back his original web-shooters and says that he didn't need S.H.I.E.L.D. to be a superhero. as he already was. He later graduates from the S.H.I.E.L.D. Academy and is given Fury's blessing, and the series ends with him returning to solo superhero work, essentially bringing him back to the status quo people know and love from the comics.]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Season 2 had several episodes dedicated to going over the backgrounds of White Tiger, Nova, Power Man and Iron Fist, which can be viewed as being (partially) in response to fan complaints about how Spidey is expected to trust them with ''everything'' when he knows nothing about them other than their names and aliases.
** Spider-Noir and his universe's version of MJ received a decent amount of ShipTease, which may have had something to do with the mass amounts of complaints over MJ's barely existent presence in the show.
** Deadpool's inclusion could be looked at as this, considering a lot of people said this show's humor would've worked better in a Deadpool cartoon rather than in a Spidey cartoon.
** Some fans, while receptive, were rather confused by the various changes done to the Peter Parker character model. In "Iron Vulture" some of his dialogue indicates that the events of the first three seasons took place over two or three years, justifying the change as Peter was only 15 when the show started and more than likely hadn't finished puberty yet.
** Nova and Fury, two of the most hated characters in the show, mysteriously disappear at the start of season 4 and [[spoiler: only reappear near the end of the season, and in extremely minor roles to boot.]] While there is a plotline involving finding them that same season it's rarely ever touched upon. Their absence is no doubt a result of the aforementioned hatred they've received.
** Given how disliked 3/4ths of Spidey's original team was in season 1 their phasing out in season 3, and getting replaced with more spider themed characters was more than likely this.
** Arguably the treatment Sandman gets after his first appearance is this. Prior to the show it's stated that he was left on an uninhabited island by S.H.I.E.L.D. ...but for unknown reasons. The reason was implied to be because he and his powers were so dangerous, however the facts that he didn't seem all ''that'' much older than the team and several things pointing (intentionally or not on the writer's part) that he didn't originally suffer from the psychosis he displayed in his first episode proper, but rather he went full on GoMadFromTheIsolation due to being on the island for an unknown amount of time (possibly since he was a ''child'' given how young he looks}... Well, let's just say fans didn't react very well, and the episode is considered by many to be one of the bigger examples of Fury's DesignatedHero status. Subsequent episodes however go on the humanize Sandman further, and showing him attempting to be a hero (if not just simply a good person.) Eventually in Season 4 Spidey takes him [[spoiler: to a relatively uneventful area where he can live peacefully]] while also giving the choice to [[spoiler: potentially join his team one day]], effectively ending his character arc for now. Season 4 also introduced fellow elemental [[spoiler: Hydro-Man]] who was in a similar position as Sandman but is most definitely a immoral psychopath through and through. He also appears to be ''significantly older'' than Sandman, which arguably justifies Fury's actions against Sandman on a pragmatic level.
** MJ returning near the end of Season 4, as well as having a major role, seems to have been brought on by the season-and-a-half full of fans complaining about her being PutOnTheBus.
** The series finale [[spoiler: has Spider-Man being forced to save the day on his
AuthorsSavingThrow: Has [[AuthorsSavingThrow/{{UltimateSpider-Man}} its own after his SHIELD tech is destroyed and all of his teammates are captured. Aunt May even gives him back his original web-shooters and says that he didn't need S.H.I.E.L.D. to be a superhero. as he already was. He later graduates from the S.H.I.E.L.D. Academy and is given Fury's blessing, and the series ends with him returning to solo superhero work, essentially bringing him back to the status quo people know and love from the comics.]]page]].
4th Apr '17 1:57:20 PM Anicomicgeek
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Season 2 had several episodes dedicated to going over the backgrounds of White Tiger, Nova, Power Man and Iron Fist, which can be viewed as being (partially) in response to fan complaints about how Spidey is expected to trust them with ''everything'' when he knows nothing about them other than their names and aliases.

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Season 2 had several episodes dedicated to going over the backgrounds of White Tiger, Nova, Power Man and Iron Fist, which can be viewed as being (partially) in response to fan complaints about how Spidey is expected to trust them with ''everything'' when he knows nothing about them other than their names and aliases.



* CaptainObviousReveal: If you've even remotely followed either of the Spider-Verse arcs it's incredibly easy to figure out that in ''Return'' that [[spoiler: Wolf-Spider is an alternate universe version of Peter. Mostly due to the fact that every other spider character in the multi-verse is an alternate version of him, except for the one universe he's dead in.]] Possibly lampshades from Peter's lack of a reaction.

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* CaptainObviousReveal: CaptainObviousReveal:
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If you've even remotely followed either of the Spider-Verse arcs it's incredibly easy to figure out that in ''Return'' that [[spoiler: Wolf-Spider is an alternate universe version of Peter. Mostly due to the fact that every other spider character in the multi-verse is an alternate version of him, except for the one universe he's dead in.]] Possibly lampshades from Peter's lack of a reaction.



* FandomBerserkButton: Attempting to even ''hint'' that this show had something to do with WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan getting CutShort ([[MisBlamed it didn't]]) is a surefire way to get the entire show's fandom coming at you with butcher knives.

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Attempting to even ''hint'' that this show had something to do with WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan getting CutShort ([[MisBlamed it didn't]]) is a surefire way to get the entire show's fandom coming at you with butcher knives.



* ItWasHisSled: Flash [[spoiler: becoming Agent Venom]] due to how [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap popular he became afterwards.]]

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Flash [[spoiler: becoming Agent Venom]] due to how [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap popular he became afterwards.]]



* ReplacementScrappy: In addition of his already unlikable personality mentioned before, Sam Alexander is a CanonImmigrant in the Marvel Universe, replacing the popular Richard Rider as Nova and with [[spoiler:no explanation of ''how'' he even has the Nova force[[note]] though ComicBook/OriginalSin issues explained that his (black) helmet was made by a group of [[DirtyCops rogue Novas]] who wanted to gain full power of Novaforce through their helmets before being compromised by Jesse Alexander who later absorbed them into Nova Corps as EliteArmy.[[/note]], when Rider's last appearance had him fight Thanos off long enough for a portal to close behind him whilst powered by the entirety of the Nova force]].

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* ReplacementScrappy: ReplacementScrappy:
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In addition of his already unlikable personality mentioned before, Sam Alexander is a CanonImmigrant in the Marvel Universe, replacing the popular Richard Rider as Nova and with [[spoiler:no explanation of ''how'' he even has the Nova force[[note]] though ComicBook/OriginalSin issues explained that his (black) helmet was made by a group of [[DirtyCops rogue Novas]] who wanted to gain full power of Novaforce through their helmets before being compromised by Jesse Alexander who later absorbed them into Nova Corps as EliteArmy.[[/note]], when Rider's last appearance had him fight Thanos off long enough for a portal to close behind him whilst powered by the entirety of the Nova force]].
4th Apr '17 1:52:47 PM Anicomicgeek
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Despite what some viewers think, Spider-Man has broken the fourth wall before in his own comics. [[http://segamarvel.deviantart.com/art/Bonified-4th-wall-breaker-419114915 Here]] are some examples. It's just flanderized here.

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Despite what some viewers think, Spider-Man has broken the fourth wall before in his own comics. [[http://segamarvel.deviantart.com/art/Bonified-4th-wall-breaker-419114915 Here]] are some examples. It's just flanderized here.


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** Some fans decried Mary Jane expressing an interest in journalism as making her an {{expy}} of ComicBook/LoisLane--expected during the "Ultimate Knights" arc shortly before ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', the MJ of the actual ComicBook/UltimateMarvel comics displayed an interest in journalism and even joined the Midtown's school network after filming a report and [[spoiler:and after Peter's "death", she typed up a story about how she felt the world and Nick Fury, killed Spider-Man with the intent of sending it to various media outlets.]]
** Additionally, the idea of S.H.I.E.L.D. acting like a mentor to Peter also came from the Ultimate comics, as Nick Fury kept an eye on Peter and even interacted with him (though he also intended to force Peter to join S.H.I.E.L.D. when he turned 18) and in the lead-up to [[spoiler:''The Death of Spider-Man'']], Fury's successor Carol Danvers and the Ultimates decided to mentor Peter.
16th Jan '17 3:09:55 PM Theokal3
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* FandomRivalry: fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' are known to be venomously hostile to this show. It's commonly believed this hated started because the initial assumption Ultimate Spider-Man was responsible for the cancellation of this show, but the hate has still been going even after [[MisBlamed this was proven incorrect]], partially because Spectacular Spider-Man fans are still mad their favourite show was replaced with one more oriented toward little kids, and partially because said replacement last longer. This has led to quite violent confrontations between them and Ultimate Spider-Man fans.

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* FandomRivalry: fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' are known to be venomously hostile to this show. It's commonly believed this hated started because the initial assumption Ultimate Spider-Man was responsible for the cancellation of this show, but the hate has still been going even after [[MisBlamed this was proven incorrect]], partially because [[ReplacementScrappy Spectacular Spider-Man fans are still mad their favourite show was replaced with one more oriented toward little kids, kids]], and partially because said replacement last longer. This has led to quite violent confrontations between them and Ultimate Spider-Man fans.
16th Jan '17 3:08:00 PM Theokal3
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* FandomRivalry: Has garnered a rather venomous one with the Spectacular Spider-Man fandom, due to Spec fans consistently going out to of their way to trash the show, and incorrectly blaming Spec's cancellation on this show. For proof just go on any YouTube video that has something to do with this show, and look in the comments. Fans of this show are understandably annoyed, as the show is in its ''fourth season'' and this behavior is still going on. The Spec fandom has also caused some HypeAversion for their show due to their negative behavior, which is unfortunate as most Ultimate fans were also Spectacular fans at one point, and originally had no problem with the previous show.

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* FandomRivalry: Has garnered a rather venomous one with fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' are known to be venomously hostile to this show. It's commonly believed this hated started because the initial assumption Ultimate Spider-Man was responsible for the cancellation of this show, but the hate has still been going even after [[MisBlamed this was proven incorrect]], partially because Spectacular Spider-Man fandom, due to Spec fans consistently going out to of are still mad their way to trash the show, and incorrectly blaming Spec's cancellation on this show. For proof just go on any YouTube video that has something to do favourite show was replaced with this show, one more oriented toward little kids, and look in the comments. Fans of this show are understandably annoyed, as the show is in its ''fourth season'' partially because said replacement last longer. This has led to quite violent confrontations between them and this behavior is still going on. The Spec fandom has also caused some HypeAversion for their show due to their negative behavior, which is unfortunate as most Ultimate fans were also Spectacular fans at one point, and originally had no problem with the previous show.Spider-Man fans.
16th Jan '17 6:49:00 AM comicwriter
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** The series finale [[spoiler: has Spider-Man being forced to save the day on his own after his SHIELD tech is destroyed and all of his teammates are captured. Aunt May even gives him back his original web-shooters and says that he didn't need S.H.I.E.L.D. to be a superhero. as he already was. He later graduates from the S.H.I.E.L.D. Academy and is given Fury's blessing, and the series ends with him returning to solo superhero work, essentially bringing him back to the status quo people know and love from the comics.]]
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