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30th Jan '16 9:47:18 AM StFan
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** Creator/DrakeBell as Spidey is also rather divisive. Some fans think he's great for the role and some are critical of him. That he starred in [[Film/SuperheroMovie a movie with a role that PARODIED Spidey]] doesn't help. The now [[TheOtherMarty infamous redubbing incident]] on ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', where he redubbed over fan favorite Creator/JoshKeaton didn't help and in fact, it made things worse, inflaming the detractors and even turning some people who had defended Bell against him.
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** Creator/DrakeBell as Spidey is also rather divisive. Some fans think he's great for the role and some are critical of him. That he starred in [[Film/SuperheroMovie a movie with a role that PARODIED Spidey]] doesn't help. The now [[TheOtherMarty infamous redubbing incident]] on ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', where he redubbed over fan favorite Creator/JoshKeaton didn't help and in fact, it made things worse, inflaming the detractors and even turning some people who had defended Bell against him.

* ContinuityLockout: The show has many different standalone episodes, so the few episodes which actually connect to each other become difficult to understand if you haven't watched the show from day one or at least seen the arc's beginning. May even apply to episodes that don't seem to contribute to a greater arc, such as "Home Sick Hulk" and "Run Pig Run", which focus on Spider-Man teaming up with Hulk and Thor, respectively, with the events of the episodes they previously teamed up in ("Exclusive" and "Field Trip") being acknowledged. Kind of ironic, if you consider Jeph Loeb mentioning his intention with retooling [[WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes another MARVEL show]] because he was afraid viewers wouldn't be able to jump in due to all the plots running alongside each other. ** This gets especially bad in late season 2 and season 3 overall, due to having a shared continuity with HulkAndTheAgentsOfSmash and AvengersAssemble. You need to have at least a basic understanding of what's happening in the first two seasons of Avengers Assemble and you ''have'' to watch all the episodes of S.M.A.S.H. that Spidey appears in or else several events, characters, and lines of dialogue during the multi-episode season 3 finale will make little to no sense for those who have only been watching this show.
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* ContinuityLockout: The show has many different standalone episodes, so the few episodes which actually connect to each other become difficult to understand if you haven't watched the show from day one or at least seen the arc's beginning. May even apply to episodes that don't seem to contribute to a greater arc, such as "Home Sick Hulk" and "Run Pig Run", which focus on Spider-Man teaming up with Hulk and Thor, respectively, with the events of the episodes they previously teamed up in ("Exclusive" and "Field Trip") being acknowledged. Kind of ironic, if you consider Jeph Loeb mentioning his intention with retooling [[WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes [[WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes another MARVEL show]] because he was afraid viewers wouldn't be able to jump in due to all the plots running alongside each other. ** This gets especially bad in late season 2 and season 3 overall, due to having a shared continuity with HulkAndTheAgentsOfSmash ''WesternAnimation/HulkAndTheAgentsOfSmash'' and AvengersAssemble. ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble''. You need to have at least a basic understanding of what's happening in the first two seasons of Avengers Assemble ''Avengers Assemble'' and you ''have'' to watch all the episodes of S.M.A.S.H. that Spidey appears in or else several events, characters, and lines of dialogue during the multi-episode season 3 finale will make little to no sense for those who have only been watching this show.
17th Jan '16 8:04:30 PM dinohunterpat
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** Doctor Doom for being well, [[MagnificentBastard Doctor]] [[LargeHam Doom]].
16th Jan '16 3:42:59 AM chloelee12
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* FridgeLogic: Relating to the above trope, there are several things about this that make little to no sense. First of all, the security cameras have nothing to do with him getting caught. He gets caught because he (understandably) ditched his communicator in anger, but somehow relates his capture to brushing off Fury and the security measures, making Fury right... because the plot demands it? Secondly he notes that [[StrawmanHasAPoint his Aunt May has no idea that there are cameras in their home, which is an ''extreme'' invasion of ''her'' privacy. (He even says, "What if she's not decent?")]] This leads into two other points. Not only did Fury not make sure that Spidey was paying attention to the paperwork (he was ''clearly'' awestruck by all the things happening around them, and therefore couldn't be expected to pay attention) but Spidey is a ''minor.'' This means one of two things. A.) Since he doesn't have legal ownership of his and May's home he doesn't have the legal right to sign a paper that would allow security cameras to be installed, and B.) he wouldn't legally be allowed to sign a paper that allows people to watch him 24/7 in the first place. There are laws that require schools, news outlets, commercials, and various other things to get permission from legal guardians to be able to so much as use a person's picture if they're under the age of 18, let alone constant surveillance. Lastly there's his teammates defending it. They're [[RetCon later revealed]] to have been living on the Helicarrier, ''of course'' they're under constant S.H.I.E.L.D. surveillance.
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* FridgeLogic: Relating to the above trope, there are several things about this that make little to no sense. First of all, the security cameras have nothing to do with him getting caught. He gets caught because he (understandably) ditched his communicator in anger, but somehow relates his capture to brushing off Fury and the security measures, making Fury right... because the plot demands it? Secondly he notes that [[StrawmanHasAPoint his Aunt May has no idea that there are cameras in their home, which is an ''extreme'' extreme invasion of ''her'' her privacy. (He even says, "What if she's not decent?")]] This leads into two other points. Not only did Fury not make sure that Spidey was paying attention to the paperwork (he was ''clearly'' awestruck by all the things happening around them, and therefore couldn't be expected to pay attention) but Spidey is a ''minor.'' This means one of two things. A.) Since he doesn't have legal ownership of his and May's home he doesn't have the legal right to sign a paper that would allow security cameras to be installed, and B.) he wouldn't legally be allowed to sign a paper that allows people to watch him 24/7 in the first place. There are laws that require schools, news outlets, commercials, and various other things to get permission from legal guardians to be able to so much as use a person's picture if they're under the age of 18, let alone constant surveillance. Lastly there's his teammates defending it. They're [[RetCon later revealed]] to have been living on the Helicarrier, ''of course'' they're under constant S.H.I.E.L.D. surveillance.
16th Jan '16 3:37:52 AM chloelee12
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Nova is [[OOCIsSeriousBuisness notably more serious]] in any episode where The Guardians of The Galaxy appear. Considering he would have fought at least a few cosmic threats with them fans genuinely believe his attitude while on Earth is a reflection that he may view the threats Earth faces as being significantly less frightening, and some of his stupidity about certain things being due to possibly not being used to Earth culture. The fact that we still don't know ''exactly'' how he became Nova just complicates matters in the eyes of some fans.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Nova is [[OOCIsSeriousBuisness [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness notably more serious]] in any episode where The Guardians of The Galaxy appear. Considering he would have fought at least a few cosmic threats with them fans genuinely believe his attitude while on Earth is a reflection that he may view the threats Earth faces as being significantly less frightening, and some of his stupidity about certain things being due to possibly not being used to Earth culture. The fact that we still don't know ''exactly'' how he became Nova just complicates matters in the eyes of some fans.
16th Jan '16 1:40:43 AM chloelee12
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*** Really any of the "New Warriors" (Spidey's second team) can be considered this, with the exception of Agent [[spoiler: Venom]] and [[spoiler: Rhino.]]

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** In the actual Ultimate Comics Peter's parents were friends with Nick Fury, and their most common origin (both in the Ultimate Universe and the main, 616 one) tends to be that they were secret agents of some sort. This could have been an amazing plot point in the first season to play around with, and they could have used it to develop an interesting, complicated relationship between Spider-Man and Fury, but absolutely nothing has been done with this and the show is ''going into its '''fourth season.''' '' Not even in season 3 where Taskmaster (who clearly has ''something'' against Nick) reappears and starts to try and make his own team. This could have caused tension between Fury and Spider-Man that they'd have to resolve, rather than having the viewer sit through several episodes that could be perceived as filler.
16th Jan '16 1:23:46 AM chloelee12
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Nova is [[OOCisSeriousBuisness notably more serious]] in any episode where The Guardians of The Galaxy appear. Considering he would have fought at least a few cosmic threats with them fans genuinely believe his attitude while on Earth is a reflection that he may view the threats Earth faces as being significantly less frightening, and some of his stupidity about certain things being due to possibly not being used to Earth culture. The fact that we still don't know ''exactly'' how he became Nova just complicates matters in the eyes of some fans.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Nova is [[OOCisSeriousBuisness [[OOCIsSeriousBuisness notably more serious]] in any episode where The Guardians of The Galaxy appear. Considering he would have fought at least a few cosmic threats with them fans genuinely believe his attitude while on Earth is a reflection that he may view the threats Earth faces as being significantly less frightening, and some of his stupidity about certain things being due to possibly not being used to Earth culture. The fact that we still don't know ''exactly'' how he became Nova just complicates matters in the eyes of some fans.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Nova is [[OOCisSeriousBuisness notably more serious]] in any episode where The Guardians FridgeLogic: Relating to the above trope, there are several things about this that make little to no sense. First of The Galaxy appear. Considering he would all, the security cameras have fought at least a few cosmic threats nothing to do with them fans genuinely believe him getting caught. He gets caught because he (understandably) ditched his attitude while on Earth communicator in anger, but somehow relates his capture to brushing off Fury and the security measures, making Fury right... because the plot demands it? Secondly he notes that [[StrawmanHasAPoint his Aunt May has no idea that there are cameras in their home, which is an ''extreme'' invasion of ''her'' privacy. (He even says, "What if she's not decent?")]] This leads into two other points. Not only did Fury not make sure that Spidey was paying attention to the paperwork (he was ''clearly'' awestruck by all the things happening around them, and therefore couldn't be expected to pay attention) but Spidey is a reflection that ''minor.'' This means one of two things. A.) Since he may view the threats Earth faces as being significantly less frightening, and some doesn't have legal ownership of his stupidity about certain and May's home he doesn't have the legal right to sign a paper that would allow security cameras to be installed, and B.) he wouldn't legally be allowed to sign a paper that allows people to watch him 24/7 in the first place. There are laws that require schools, news outlets, commercials, and various other things being due to possibly not being used get permission from legal guardians to Earth culture. The fact that we still don't know ''exactly'' how he became Nova just complicates matters in be able to so much as use a person's picture if they're under the eyes age of some fans. 18, let alone constant surveillance. Lastly there's his teammates defending it. They're [[RetCon later revealed]] to have been living on the Helicarrier, ''of course'' they're under constant S.H.I.E.L.D. surveillance.
16th Jan '16 12:57:48 AM chloelee12
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* AccidentalInnuendo: A rare visual example in the first episode. When Spider-man is monologueing his backstory we get a brief look at at Uncle Ben's grave and... well, it looks rather phallic shaped unfortunately.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: A rare visual example in the first episode. When Spider-man is monologueing his backstory we get a brief look at at Uncle Ben's grave and... well, it looks rather phallic shaped unfortunately. It continues to look like that in it's later appearances. * AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Nova is [[OOCisSeriousBuisness notably more serious]] in any episode where The Guardians of The Galaxy appear. Considering he would have fought at least a few cosmic threats with them fans genuinely believe his attitude while on Earth is a reflection that he may view the threats Earth faces as being significantly less frightening, and some of his stupidity about certain things being due to possibly not being used to Earth culture. The fact that we still don't know ''exactly'' how he became Nova just complicates matters in the eyes of some fans.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: A rare visual example AuthorsSavingThrow: Season 2 had several episodes dedicated to going over the backgrounds of White Tiger, Nova, Power Man and Iron Fist, which can be viewed as being (partially) in response to fan complaints about how Spidey is expected to trust them with ''everything'' when he knows nothing about them other than their names and aliases. ** Spider-Noir and his universe's version of MJ received a decent amount of ShipTease, which may have had something to do with the mass amounts of complaints over MJ's barely existent presence in the first episode. When Spider-man is monologueing his backstory we get a brief look show. ** Deadpool's inclusion could be looked at at Uncle Ben's grave and... well, it looks as this, considering a lot of people said this show's humor would've worked better in a Deadpool cartoon rather phallic shaped unfortunately.than in a Spidey cartoon.
13th Jan '16 1:50:45 PM chloelee12
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** This gets especially bad in late season 2 and season 3 overall, due to having a shared continuity with HulkAndTheAgentsOfSmash and AvengersAssemble. You need to have at least a basic understanding of what's happening in the first two seasons of Avengers Assemble and you ''have'' to watch all the episodes of S.M.A.S.H. that Spidey appears in or else several events, characters, and lines of dialogue during the multi-episode season 3 finale will make little to no sense for those who have only been watching this show.
13th Jan '16 1:35:50 PM WanderingBrowser
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Removed this example because that wasn't Osborn doing it "for Octavius", he was doing it because he was already a Corrupt Corporate Executive and it was a legit way to have his own pet Mad Scientist. Likewise, the security system wasn't built that way, Nova accidentally fried its Friend/Foe Recognition when he damaged the control box.
** If you think about it, Norman Osborn's treatment of Octavius could count as well. Seriously, if one of your scientists, even a friend, almost died from an lab accident, there are better ways to deal with the problem than taking the guy and keeping him sequestrated while making everybody believe he is dead... ** Whoever's idea it was to build a security system that recognizes the occupants as intruders.
10th Jan '16 7:33:01 AM chloelee12
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** While Harry was lucky enough not to get [[OutOfFocus phased out]] until early season 1, one can argue MJ has gotten even worse treatment due to being of little importance in the first season itself and being completely abandoned around mid-season 2. We don't get to learn anything about her other than she's an inspiring news reporter, and that's it. Whereas Harry was a key character for at least two arcs and got a decent amount of character development.
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** While Harry was lucky enough not to get [[OutOfFocus phased out]] until early season 1, one can argue 3 MJ was abandoned mid-season 2. To make it worse MJ has gotten even worse treatment due to being of little importance in the first season itself and being completely abandoned around mid-season 2. We during which we don't get to learn anything about her other than she's an inspiring news reporter, and that's it. Whereas Harry was a key character for at least two arcs and got a decent amount of character development.
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