History YMMV / TwentyFour

27th May '17 11:38:03 AM nombretomado
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*** Also from ''Live Another Day'', Chloe's sudden resemblance to [[TheMillenniumTrilogy Lisbeth Salander.]]

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*** Also from ''Live Another Day'', Chloe's sudden resemblance to [[TheMillenniumTrilogy [[Literature/TheMillenniumTrilogy Lisbeth Salander.]]
7th May '17 9:13:15 AM jlindsay
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** Even Teri qualifies to some degree. She spent the majority of Day 1 being [[DamselScrappy pretty useless]] and her [[TrappedByMountainLions poorly-written amnesia subplot]] made her a pretty unlikeable character to many fans. Still, many fans were sad to see her killed off so suddenly and sympathized with Jack's loss in the future seasons.

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** Even Teri qualifies to some degree. She spent the majority of Day 1 being [[DamselScrappy pretty useless]] and her [[TrappedByMountainLions poorly-written amnesia subplot]] made her a pretty unlikeable character TheScrappy to many fans. Still, many of those fans were still sad to see her killed off so suddenly and sympathized with Jack's loss in the future seasons.
7th May '17 9:11:19 AM jlindsay
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** Even Teri qualifies to some degree. She spent the majority of Day 1 being [[DamselScrappy pretty useless]] and her [[TrappedByMountainLions poorly-written amnesia subplot]] made her a pretty unlikeable character to many fans. Still, many fans were sad to see her killed off so suddenly and sympathized with Jack's loss in the future seasons.


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** They only really started to subvert the trope on Day 5. Before that, this trope was actually PlayedStraight quite a lot. Jack miraculously survived clinical death at the hands of Peter Kingsley's henchmen during Day 2, David Palmer miraculously survived the deadly virus Mandy infected him with at the end of Day 2, Tony miraculously survived getting shot in the neck at the start of Day 3, Michelle miraculously survived getting exposed to the virus at the end of Day 3 when the possibility of infection was higher than 90%, [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled Heller and Audrey survived their suicide attempt at the start of Day 4]], and Tony and Mandy survived their supposed car bomb death at the end of Day 4. PopularityPower was actually pretty strong, back in the day.
20th Apr '17 6:14:39 AM Tyk5919
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** Now that Season 1 of ''24: Legacy'' has finished airing, fans and critics' opinion on the show has been more divisive than even ''Live Another Day''. Was the show just as good as, if not better than, a typical season of ''24''? Did it start off very sluggish, but got progressive better after the halfway mark? Did it start off wonderful, but then tumbled to the finish line after Asim Naseri was shoehorned into the plot? Was [[spoiler:Rebecca's]] death shocking and saddening, or just thrown in because of a DiabolusExMachina and because the writers felt compelled to kill off someone major? Are the characters interesting and relatable, or are they all just bland and soulless? Most importantly, should the show be renewed for a second season, or should they just drop it and never touch the franchise again?

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** Now that Season 1 of ''24: Legacy'' has finished airing, fans and critics' opinion on the show has been more divisive than even ''Live Another Day''. Was the show just as good as, if not better than, a typical season of ''24''? Did it start off very sluggish, but got progressive progressively better after the halfway mark? Did it start off wonderful, but then tumbled to the finish line after Asim Naseri was shoehorned into the plot? Was [[spoiler:Rebecca's]] death shocking and saddening, or just thrown in because of a DiabolusExMachina and because the writers felt compelled to kill off someone major? Are the characters interesting and relatable, or are they all just bland and soulless? Most importantly, should the show be renewed for a second season, or should they just drop it and never touch the franchise again?
20th Apr '17 6:12:32 AM Tyk5919
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** After having many seasons end on a bitter, if not depressing note for most of the main characters, the writers decided to end Season 1 of ''Legacy'' on a surprisingly optimistic note where everyone (except [[spoiler:Rebecca Ingram]]) is alive and nearly every relationship is left intact.


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** Now that Season 1 of ''24: Legacy'' has finished airing, fans and critics' opinion on the show has been more divisive than even ''Live Another Day''. Was the show just as good as, if not better than, a typical season of ''24''? Did it start off very sluggish, but got progressive better after the halfway mark? Did it start off wonderful, but then tumbled to the finish line after Asim Naseri was shoehorned into the plot? Was [[spoiler:Rebecca's]] death shocking and saddening, or just thrown in because of a DiabolusExMachina and because the writers felt compelled to kill off someone major? Are the characters interesting and relatable, or are they all just bland and soulless? Most importantly, should the show be renewed for a second season, or should they just drop it and never touch the franchise again?


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** A lot of people feel that [[spoiler:Tony Almeida]] was wasted in ''Legacy''. [[AdvertisedExtra Despite all the hype built around his return]], he doesn't appear until the season is halfway over, and during his appearance, all he does is torture [[spoiler:Henry Donovan]] and get into a shootout and brief fistfight with Carter. He could've been replaced by a random MauveShirt who knew Rebecca and it wouldn't have changed the story at all.
14th Apr '17 6:17:48 AM Tyk5919
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** A lot of fans found the subplot in ''Legacy'' involving Amira Dudayev and her family to be just as awful as the Araz family subplot back in Season 4. When the sixth episode came along, [[spoiler:everyone involved in said subplot was killed off very quickly, and her father, the only surviving character, was never mentioned again]].


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** Isaac Carter from ''Legacy''. On one side, people hate him for constantly flip-flopping his attitude, for being a loose cannon, for being the center of a {{Filler}} subplot, and for trying to persuade Nicole to leave her husband. On the other side, some people like him for being a competent AntiHero, for putting himself in danger when he didn't need to, and genuinely caring about Nicole and Eric. It helps that he's more concerned about Nicole's well-being instead of his career, as opposed to Eric.


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* OneSceneWonder: [[CowardlyLion Officer Jenkins]] from ''Legacy'', who had the courage to walk out into a busy street and shoot [[spoiler:Amira Dudayev]] ''by himself'' in order to stop her from bombing a bridge. [[spoiler:Shame he didn't kill her though...]]


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** ''Legacy'' also suffered from this as well, for having way too many subplots early on in the series. It wasn't until halfway in when many of the subplots converged or were wrapped up and the show focused more on the major plots. Whether or not the series got better or worse (especially when [[AssPull Naseri]] came in) [[BrokenBase is debatable]].
13th Apr '17 12:18:03 PM GamerFromJump2
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** Based on what happens to Jack throughout, the Aesop of the series is, "Loyalty to your nation is pointless. It will use you, abuse you, and throw you to the wolves the moment it suits them."
21st Mar '17 6:01:49 PM Galle
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** Allison Taylor spends the third act of Season 8 [[spoiler: covering up the involvement of Russian agents in the assassination of Omar Hassan, in the name of preserving a peace treaty that Hassan strongly believed in and that it is implied will save thousands if not millions of lives.]] Naturally, this is treated as a FaceHeelTurn, and her [[spoiler: refusal to sign the treaty at the last minute]] as an act of redemption, because apparently, human lives are less important than abstract principles.
21st Mar '17 10:51:36 AM pisacrap
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** [[spoiler: The reveal of Alan Wilson being the mastermind behind numerous terrorist plots within the series, including the deaths of David Palmer and Michelle, has had mixed reactions. many were unhappy that what they felt was a completely generic, dull character had been set up as the series BigBad and [[HijackedByGanon stole Day 7's plot away from a highly praised villain in Jonas Hodges, who was built up as the Big Bad of Day 7 since Redemption.]]]]
*** [[spoiler: The reason the writers tacked Wilson on the ''ultimate'' Day 5 mastermind was that they needed a foil for Tony to be an AntiVillain. The problem became that, in seasons 5 and 6, every mastermind was either an established major political figure (Chief of Staff Walt Cummings, President Charles Logan) or someone personally important to Jack (mentor Christopher Henderson, brother Graem, or daddy Phillip). Then, it all turned to be the work of... some guy. Bo-ring.]]
** [[spoiler:It seems that Day 8 has one that rivals the above, with he reveal that Yuri Suvarov, a previous respectable character that wasn't bad at all, was revealed right before the series finale to be the final BigBad of the series. It's even more bizarre since you would think it would be more appropriate to have Charles Logan as the BigBad, especially with him being more of a MagnificentBastard than before. It seems the writers love making [[ShockingSwerve twists for the sake of twists]]]]

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** [[spoiler: The reveal of Alan Wilson [[spoiler:Alan Wilson]] being the mastermind behind numerous terrorist plots within the series, including the deaths of David [[spoiler:David Palmer and Michelle, Michelle Dessler]], has had mixed reactions. many Many were unhappy that what they felt was a completely generic, dull character had been set up as the series series' BigBad and [[HijackedByGanon stole Day 7's plot away away]] from a highly praised villain in Jonas Hodges, who was built up as the Big Bad of Day 7 since Redemption.]]]]
''Redemption''.
*** [[spoiler: The reason the writers tacked [[spoiler:tacked Wilson on as the ''ultimate'' Day 5 mastermind was that they needed a foil for Tony to be an AntiVillain.AntiVillain]]. The problem became that, in seasons 5 and 6, every mastermind was either an established major political figure (Chief of Staff Walt Cummings, President Charles Logan) or someone personally important to Jack (mentor Christopher Henderson, brother Graem, or daddy Phillip). Then, it all turned to be the work of... some guy. Bo-ring.]]
Bo-ring.
** [[spoiler:It seems that Day 8 has one that rivals the above, with he the reveal that Yuri [[spoiler:Yuri Suvarov, a previous previously respectable character that wasn't bad at all, was revealed right before the series finale to be is the final BigBad of the series. season. It's even more bizarre since you would think it would be more appropriate to have Charles Logan as the BigBad, especially with him being more of a MagnificentBastard than before. before]]. It seems the writers love making [[ShockingSwerve twists for the sake of twists]]]]twists]].



** Possibly also [[spoiler:Graem being established as Jack's brother in season 6. In season 5, all of his conversations with President Logan have ''both'' participants referring to Jack only as "Bauer", no first name, which suggests that Logan doesn't even realize that the person he's talking to also has the surname Bauer.]]

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** Possibly also [[spoiler:Graem Graem being established as Jack's [[spoiler:Jack's brother in season 6. In season 5, all of his conversations with President Logan have ''both'' participants referring to Jack only as "Bauer", no first name, which suggests that Logan doesn't even realize that the person he's talking to also has the surname Bauer.]]



** In the latter half of ''Legacy'', [[spoiler:Asim Naseri is suddenly introduced as a henchman of the BigBad, revealed to have a bitter personal history with TheHero, and promoted to Big Bad himself, ''all within a single episode''. While ''24'' is no stranger to DiscOneFinalBoss, previous seasons were usually more gradual and natural about it thanks to their longer lengths; by contrast, Naseri practically comes out of nowhere, with zero prior buildup or foreshadowing.]]



* JustHereForGodzilla: Many fans of the show who initially had no interest in watching ''24: Legacy'' have started to changed their minds after it was revealed that [[spoiler:Tony would be appearing, continuing off the SequelHook from the ''24: Solitary'' short.]]

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* JustHereForGodzilla: Many fans of the show who initially had no interest in watching ''24: Legacy'' have started to changed their minds after when it was revealed that [[spoiler:Tony would be appearing, continuing off the SequelHook from the ''24: Solitary'' short.]]



** ''Live Another Day'' features what was perhaps always the inevitable end of the "perimeter" motif, as Eric describes the terrorists as making one of their own. They're finished a few moments later.
** The protagonist of the revival is called Eric Carter. Hopefully the terrorists respect his authoritah.
** The entire subplot in ''Legacy'' with the teenage terrorist and her chemistry teacher making a bomb. Both of them are so incompetent at covering their tracks that half the time it honestly feels like it's deliberately being played for wacky slapstick, except the music never stops being deadly serious.

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** ''Live Another Day'' features what was perhaps always the inevitable end of the "perimeter" motif, as Eric Erik describes the terrorists as making one of their own. They're finished a few moments later.
** The protagonist of the revival ''24: Legacy'' is called named Eric Carter. Hopefully the terrorists [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark respect his authoritah.
authoritah]].
** The entire subplot in ''Legacy'' with the teenage terrorist Amira Dudayev and her chemistry teacher making a bomb. Both of them are so incompetent at covering their tracks that half the time it honestly feels like it's deliberately being played for wacky slapstick, except the music never stops being deadly serious.



** The series finale revealing that TheManBehindTheMan behind the Russian terrorists was actually [[spoiler: Yuri Suvarov]], a character that showed no previous connections to any terrorist group. In fact, despite his political connections to [[spoiler: Charles Logan]], he came off as an overall decent guy who opposed the Russian terrorists in both seasons [[spoiler: ''five'' AND ''six''. Suvarov]] suddenly switching sides so close to the show's end felt like an extraordinary AssPull.

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** The series finale revealing that TheManBehindTheMan behind the Russian terrorists was actually [[spoiler: Yuri Suvarov]], a character that showed no previous connections to any terrorist group. In fact, despite his political connections to [[spoiler: Charles Logan]], he came off as an overall decent guy who opposed the Russian terrorists in both seasons [[spoiler: ''five'' AND ''six''. Suvarov]] suddenly switching sides so close to the show's end felt like an extraordinary AssPull.{{Asspull}}.



** Season 7 revealed that the ultimate ManBehindTheMan was some guy named Alan Wilson and TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness, though said Council may or may not be a KarmaHoudini as they, too, are not heard from again, while Wilson only gets a brief mention in season 8. Most seasons prior to that had various cases of government corruption and internal conspiracies (such as attempts to kill the President) that alluded to masterminds who went unpunished, and Graem Bauer alluded to involvement in previous stories (saying that he ordered the hit on David Palmer and Jack in season 5, and that his hit on Jack was not the first). Wilson is presumably meant to be the ultimate villain behind all of this, but while the conspiracy itself wasn't exactly an AssPull and a fair amount of groundwork (possibly unintentional, but still), the identity of the villain certainly was.

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** Season 7 revealed that the ultimate ManBehindTheMan was some guy named Alan Wilson and TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness, though said Council may or may not be a KarmaHoudini as they, too, are not heard from again, while Wilson only gets a brief mention in season 8. Most seasons prior to that had various cases of government corruption and internal conspiracies (such as attempts to kill the President) that alluded to masterminds who went unpunished, and Graem Bauer alluded to involvement in previous stories (saying that he ordered the hit on David Palmer and Jack in season 5, and that his hit on Jack was not the first). Wilson is presumably meant to be the ultimate villain behind all of this, but while the conspiracy itself wasn't exactly an AssPull {{Asspull}} and a fair amount of groundwork (possibly unintentional, but still), the identity of the villain certainly was.



** [[spoiler: Tony]] in season 7. It's clear he was supposed to be viewed in some sort of WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds light by the end, but the fact that the revelation regarding it is almost thrown in [[AssPull at the last second]] [[BrokenBase hasn't sit well with some people]] as well as his willingness to kill innocent people despite [[BlatantLies claims that they were never actually in danger]], especially when compared to [[spoiler: Jack's]] turn in season 8 where he still [[EvenEvilHasStandards had some principles]] and was cleary [[HurtingHero suffering]] even as his actions became darker through the final third of it.

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** [[spoiler: Tony]] in season 7. It's clear he was supposed to be viewed in some sort of WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds light by the end, but the fact that the revelation regarding it is almost thrown in [[AssPull [[{{Asspull}} at the last second]] [[BrokenBase hasn't sit well with some people]] as well as his willingness to kill innocent people despite [[BlatantLies claims that they were never actually in danger]], especially when compared to [[spoiler: Jack's]] turn in season 8 where he still [[EvenEvilHasStandards had some principles]] and was cleary [[HurtingHero suffering]] even as his actions became darker through the final third of it.
18th Feb '17 6:23:12 PM Pren
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** The entire subplot in ''Legacy'' with the teenage terrorist and her chemistry teacher making a bomb. Both of them are so incompetent at covering their tracks that half the time it honestly feels like it's deliberately being played for wacky slapstick, except the music never stops being deadly serious.
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