History YMMV / TransformersGeneration1

18th May '17 1:22:38 AM KobyFish
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** In the Season 1 Episode, "Heavy Metal War", Megatron challenges Optimus Prime to single combat, with the loser being required to exile themselves and their army to deep space, forever. Then he cheats, borrowing the powers of all the Decepticons, and to try to ensure his cheating isn't discovered, he orders the Constructicons to destroy Teletraan 1, the Autobots' computer, which would totally narc on him (and it did). Megatron didn't have to kill Optimus Prime in this duel, only defeat him. But what this essentially means is, if all had gone according to plan, Megatron would be "rid" of the Autobots without having to destroy any of them, including Optimus Prime. This puts the cheating itself in a whole new light, as it would have effectively ended the War, but without any more killing of Autobots.
7th May '17 9:52:46 AM nombretomado
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** [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/GEEWUN GEEWUN]], a fan term describing those who overglorify G1 (usually due to [[NostalgiaFilter nostalgia]]) and bash most other Transformers incarnations, most infamously the Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries. Notably, this term cross-pollinated into the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' fandom as "Genwun", and is used to describe fans who are similarly attached to the earliest incarnations of the franchise to the exclusion of others.

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** [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/GEEWUN GEEWUN]], a fan term describing those who overglorify G1 (usually due to [[NostalgiaFilter nostalgia]]) and bash most other Transformers incarnations, most infamously the Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries.Film/TransformersFilmSeries. Notably, this term cross-pollinated into the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' fandom as "Genwun", and is used to describe fans who are similarly attached to the earliest incarnations of the franchise to the exclusion of others.



* SacredCow: ''Transformers G1'' was a rather infamous example during the height of popularity of the Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries. The Michael Bay movies suffered from a lot of TheyChangedItNowItSucks from fans and, starting with ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'', would receive extremely negative reviews from critics. As a result, many nostalgic ''G1'' fans would look back at the cartoon/comic series and hold it up as an incorruptible, perfect piece of work due to [[NostalgiaFilter nostalgia]] and the heavy criticism that the Bay movies were getting in comparison, resulting in the "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/GEEWUN GEEWUN]]" meme often used by other ''Transformers'' fans to point out the most ridiculous stereotypes of the ''G1'' fandom. However, this has died down together with the popularity and corresponding HypeBacklash of the Bay movies, and fans instead look back at ''G1'' as an above-average MerchandiseDriven kids' franchise that left a notable legacy behind, though this hasn't stopped hate and [[SnarkBait snarky comments]] directed at the movies.

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* SacredCow: ''Transformers G1'' was a rather infamous example during the height of popularity of the Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries.Film/TransformersFilmSeries. The Michael Bay movies suffered from a lot of TheyChangedItNowItSucks from fans and, starting with ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'', would receive extremely negative reviews from critics. As a result, many nostalgic ''G1'' fans would look back at the cartoon/comic series and hold it up as an incorruptible, perfect piece of work due to [[NostalgiaFilter nostalgia]] and the heavy criticism that the Bay movies were getting in comparison, resulting in the "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/GEEWUN GEEWUN]]" meme often used by other ''Transformers'' fans to point out the most ridiculous stereotypes of the ''G1'' fandom. However, this has died down together with the popularity and corresponding HypeBacklash of the Bay movies, and fans instead look back at ''G1'' as an above-average MerchandiseDriven kids' franchise that left a notable legacy behind, though this hasn't stopped hate and [[SnarkBait snarky comments]] directed at the movies.
7th May '17 9:48:19 AM nombretomado
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* FandomRivalry: With the Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries. While G1 fans have many complaints about the film franchise (many of which are justified), the sheer vitriol with which they bash the movies and [[SacredCow overglorify the series they grew up with]][[note]]which is widely seen as a run-of-the-mill MerchandiseDriven kids' cartoon by outsiders[[/note]] has prompted a lot of CriticalBacklash from fans of the movies.

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* FandomRivalry: With the Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries.Film/TransformersFilmSeries. While G1 fans have many complaints about the film franchise (many of which are justified), the sheer vitriol with which they bash the movies and [[SacredCow overglorify the series they grew up with]][[note]]which is widely seen as a run-of-the-mill MerchandiseDriven kids' cartoon by outsiders[[/note]] has prompted a lot of CriticalBacklash from fans of the movies.
3rd May '17 5:40:59 PM Simpsonwatcher314
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** Rolan and Martin from the infamous episode "B.O.T." are generally disliked for being far more obnoxious and mean-spirited than the Autobots' other human allies. They are even nicknamed "future serial killers" on the Transformers Wiki.

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** Rolan Roland and Martin from the infamous episode "B.O.T." are generally disliked for being far more obnoxious and mean-spirited than the Autobots' other human allies. They are even nicknamed "future serial killers" on the Transformers Wiki.
3rd May '17 5:33:49 PM Simpsonwatcher314
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* FanonDiscontinuity - Fans all over the world prefer to ignore ''Kiss Players''.

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* FanonDiscontinuity - FanonDiscontinuity: Fans all over the world prefer to ignore ''Kiss Players''.
3rd May '17 5:31:58 PM Simpsonwatcher314
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* CoolOldGuy: Jazz was voiced by the late Scatman Crothers in what was probably one of his most famous roles— at least when it comes to childrens' entertainment, and while he was primarily ''white'' in coloration, Jazz has been depicted as being the slick, friendly, yet badass [[SoulBrotha black guy]] in almost every incarnation since just because of how much people loved the original character, despite him not appearing in every episode despite the fact that at times he seemed like Optimus' second in command. Jazz was also one of Crothers' final roles, and he clearly enjoyed every minute of his time on the show, because he never once sounded like he was just doing it for a check.

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* CoolOldGuy: Jazz was voiced by the late Scatman Crothers in what was probably one of his most famous roles— at least when it comes to childrens' entertainment, and while he was primarily ''white'' in coloration, Jazz has been depicted as being the slick, friendly, yet badass [[SoulBrotha black guy]] in almost every incarnation since just because of how much people loved the original character, despite him not appearing in every episode despite the fact that at times even though he seemed like Optimus' second in command.command at times. Jazz was also one of Crothers' final roles, and he clearly enjoyed every minute of his time on the show, because he never once sounded like he was just doing it for a check.
3rd May '17 5:30:32 PM Simpsonwatcher314
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** Megatron's gun mode. Was it a great design born from his toy, that turns into a pretty cool weapon for others to use? Or is having Megatron turn into a small gun for others to fire ill-fitting to somebody who's supposed to be the powerful BigBad? It's telling that unlike Optimus, who's almost always reimagined as a truck, Megatron changes radically depending on the continuity, with even his later toys referencing G1 choose a vehicle over a gun. That and the strict toy laws in some countries making it next to impossible to re-release him, since Megatron is a realistic firearm replica, and in Australia, one has to be a registered member of a gun club to even ''own'' a ''Masterpiece'' Megatron.

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** Megatron's gun mode. Was it a great design born from his toy, that turns into a pretty cool weapon for others to use? Or is having Megatron turn into a small gun for others to fire ill-fitting to somebody who's supposed to be the powerful BigBad? It's telling that unlike Optimus, who's almost always reimagined as a truck, Megatron changes radically depending on the continuity, with even his later toys referencing G1 choose a vehicle over a gun. That and the strict toy laws in some countries making make it next to impossible to re-release him, since Megatron is a realistic firearm replica, and in Australia, one has to be a registered member of a gun club to even ''own'' a ''Masterpiece'' Megatron.
3rd May '17 5:30:08 PM Simpsonwatcher314
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** Megatron's gun mode. Was it a great design born from his toy, that turns into a pretty cool weapon for others to use? Or is having Megatron turn into a small gun for others to fire ill-fitting to somebody who's supposed to be the powerful BigBad? It's telling that unlike Optimus, who's almost always reimagined as a truck, Megatron changes radically depending on the continuity, with even his later toys referencing G1 choose a vehicle over a gun. That and the strict toy laws in some country, since Megatron is a realistic firearm replica, and in Australia, one has to be a registered member of a gun club to even ''own'' a ''Masterpiece'' Megatron.

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** Megatron's gun mode. Was it a great design born from his toy, that turns into a pretty cool weapon for others to use? Or is having Megatron turn into a small gun for others to fire ill-fitting to somebody who's supposed to be the powerful BigBad? It's telling that unlike Optimus, who's almost always reimagined as a truck, Megatron changes radically depending on the continuity, with even his later toys referencing G1 choose a vehicle over a gun. That and the strict toy laws in some country, countries making it next to impossible to re-release him, since Megatron is a realistic firearm replica, and in Australia, one has to be a registered member of a gun club to even ''own'' a ''Masterpiece'' Megatron.
2nd May '17 2:34:05 AM Killerikala
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* FanDislikedExplanation: Very few like the expanation that ''Unicron'' was built by Primacon, a simple alien scientist. It's been since retconned to oblivion.
29th Apr '17 12:02:34 AM BNSF1995
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* AccidentalInnuendo: Megatron would turn into a gun to be wielded by another Decepticon, usually Starscream. The implications are staggering. In case your mind wasn't dirty enough to get it at first: Starscream holds Megatron in his hands, then pulls Megatron's trigger, making him shoot out. And to FURTHER add to this, the original Megatron toy had his trigger for his [[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/g1-1984/megatron/35/1/61/ crotch.]]

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* AccidentalInnuendo: Megatron would turn into a gun to be wielded by another Decepticon, usually Starscream. The implications are staggering. In case your mind wasn't dirty enough to get it at first: Starscream holds Megatron in his hands, then pulls Megatron's trigger, making him shoot out. And to FURTHER add to this, the original Megatron toy had his trigger for his [[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/g1-1984/megatron/35/1/61/ crotch.]]crotch]], a point that ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken''.



* AudienceShift: Most current material based on ''Generation 1'', specifically comics, toys, games (such as ''VideoGame/TransformersDevastation'') and re-releases of the animated series, is aimed towards fans who grew up with the franchise rather than the children that it was originally intended for.

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* AudienceShift: Most current material based on ''Generation 1'', specifically comics, toys, games (such as ''VideoGame/TransformersDevastation'') and re-releases of the animated series, is aimed towards fans who grew up with the franchise rather than the children that it was originally intended for. The comic series by Dreamwave and later [=IDW=] are particularly DarkerAndEdgier, with frequent character deaths and even different characterizations (such as Megatron [[spoiler:'''''actually becoming an Autobot in the [=IDW=] comics, no joke''''']].
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