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22nd Jan '16 3:18:00 PM MyFinalEdits
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* HoYay: Rodimus Prime admits to dreaming about Optimus. His own voice actor (jokingly) claimed the character was gay, despite many incarnations of the character being romantically-linked to Arcee.
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* HoYay: HoYay: ** Rodimus Prime admits to dreaming about Optimus. His own voice actor (jokingly) claimed the character was gay, despite many incarnations of the character being romantically-linked to Arcee.

** "Soundwave superior. Constructicons inferior." *** Which led to "Soundwave superior, [insert name] inferior."
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** "Soundwave superior. Constructicons inferior." *** " Which in turn led to "Soundwave superior, [insert name] inferior."

* MoralEventHorizon: Megatron famously crossed it in the movie when he killed Optimus, though one could he say he crossed it far earlier with the Robo-Smasher (aka. the device he used to horrifically brainwash the peaceful Constructicons into Decepticons and destroy Crystal City). For Blitzwing at least, the deal with the Quintessons was the point of no return for Galvatron.
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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon: ** Megatron famously crossed it in the movie when he killed Optimus, though one could he say he crossed it far earlier with the Robo-Smasher (aka. the device he used to horrifically brainwash the peaceful Constructicons into Decepticons and destroy Crystal City). For Blitzwing at least, the deal with the Quintessons was the point of no return for Galvatron.

** Rodimus for replacing [[TheHero Optimus Prime]] while failing to replicate the traits that made him such a popular character. He never developed his own leadership style and lost the more interesting HotBlooded personality that he had as Hot Rod. It really doesn't help that, in-story, he was never even supposed to be leader; Optimus explicitly named Ultra Magnus as his successor, not Hot Rod. *** To give you an idea of how unpopular Rodimus's leadership was, fans almost universally consider his best decision as leader to be reviving Optimus and than stepping down from his position. ''Yeah''. Other versions of the character aren't this hated, but ''they'' either don't replace Optimus or keep the "Hot Rod" personality and just change their name.
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** Rodimus for replacing [[TheHero Optimus Prime]] while failing to replicate the traits that made him such a popular character. He never developed his own leadership style and lost the more interesting HotBlooded personality that he had as Hot Rod. It really doesn't help that, in-story, he was never even supposed to be leader; Optimus explicitly named Ultra Magnus as his successor, not Hot Rod. *** To give you an idea of how unpopular Rodimus's leadership was, fans Rod. Fans almost universally consider his best decision as leader to be reviving Optimus and than stepping down from his position. ''Yeah''. Other versions of the character aren't this hated, but ''they'' either don't replace Optimus or keep the "Hot Rod" personality and just change their name.
17th Jan '16 1:50:26 PM chopshop
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** Optimus in "The Rebirth", where he comes off as a bit of weary old man and never really engages in battle like he did before. The bad part about this is that it could've easily been worked into a character arc, with him being shaken by dying and coming back. Except the season 3 finale beforehand had Prime get over it and save the day all but singlehanded in one of the show's biggest AwesomeMoments, so there was no longer any excuse.

* GrowingTheBeard: Subverted. Season 2 showed a lot of signs of improvement (stronger and bigger scale plots, more backstory, more spotlight episodes and characterization, better animation, etc.) but the last few episodes of the season and season 3 promptly took a nosedive in quality, bar a few really dark episodes such as "Webworld", "Fight or Flee", "Call of the Primatives", "Dark Awakening", and the two-parter "The Return of Optimus Prime". ** And then there are those who think that the Movie and season three were the actual growing of the beard.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Subverted. Season 2 showed a lot of signs of improvement (stronger and bigger scale plots, more backstory, more spotlight episodes and characterization, better animation, etc.) but the last few episodes of the season and season 3 promptly took a nosedive in quality, bar a few really dark episodes such as "Webworld", "Fight or Flee", "Call of the Primatives", "Dark Awakening", and the two-parter "The Return of Optimus Prime". ** And then stand-out episodes. Note however that there are those some who think that the Movie and feel season three were the actual growing of the beard.has merit; see SeasonalRot below for more.

* ReplacementScrappy: Rodimus Prime ** Daniel. ** [[AxCrazy Galvatron]] in the third season ** Optimus Prime in "Return of Optimus Prime" and "The Rebirth".
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* ReplacementScrappy: Rodimus Prime ** Daniel. ** [[AxCrazy Prime, Daniel and Wheelie, and Galvatron]] in the third season season. Each for different reasons: ** Rodimus for replacing [[TheHero Optimus Prime in "Return of Prime]] while failing to replicate the traits that made him such a popular character. He never developed his own leadership style and lost the more interesting HotBlooded personality that he had as Hot Rod. It really doesn't help that, in-story, he was never even supposed to be leader; Optimus Prime" explicitly named Ultra Magnus as his successor, not Hot Rod. *** To give you an idea of how unpopular Rodimus's leadership was, fans almost universally consider his best decision as leader to be reviving Optimus and "The Rebirth".than stepping down from his position. ''Yeah''. Other versions of the character aren't this hated, but ''they'' either don't replace Optimus or keep the "Hot Rod" personality and just change their name. ** Daniel and Wheelie for replacing Spike and Bumblebee as the Kid-Appeal Characters, but falling into the exact pitfalls that Spike and 'Bee avoided, like being too young and having annoying voices. ** Galvatron generally gets the least of this (possibly because he technically ''is'' Megatron, just in a different form), but many still prefer Megatron due to feeling that Galvatron came off as less competent and didn't have as many interesting dynamics with his troops.

** [[RhymesOnADime Wheelie was as unpopular as can be when he appeared in Season 3; not helped by the fact he actually SOUNDED like Scrappy-Doo in his first commercial appearance]]. * SeasonalRot: Season 3 is widely considered a step down from the previous two seasons due to killing off/writing out most of the cast in favor of new toys, drastically changing the setting and style, and the animation becoming worse than ever (which can be laid at they feet of South Korean studio AKOM, which often produced subpar artwork and numerous coloring, model, and continuity errors, though with a slightly higher frame rate than Toei-animated episodes). A few episodes, though, such as "Chaos", "Dweller in the Depths", "Call of the Primatives", and "The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2", though, rank as among the best-animated episodes in the series (mainly because they were animated by Toei, except for "Primatives"; to this day, the studio that animated "Primatives" remains unknown). A few other episodes, such as "Webworld" and "Dark Awakening" rank as among the best-written episodes of the series. ** And then there are those who feel that season two was the weakest season of the series, and that the third season was a step up with the show becoming more of a science fiction epic that really branched out the mythology, a smaller core cast of characters who were more interesting and three-dimensional, that really paved the way for what the franchise would eventually become.
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** [[RhymesOnADime Wheelie was as unpopular as can be when he appeared in Season 3; not 3]]. Not helped by the fact he actually SOUNDED like Scrappy-Doo in his first commercial appearance]]. appearance or the fact that his initially present survivalist traits got played down in favor of being the cute kid of the team. * SeasonalRot: Season 3 is widely considered a step down from the previous two seasons due to killing off/writing out most of the cast in favor of new toys, drastically changing the setting and style, and the animation becoming worse than ever (which can be laid at they feet of South Korean studio AKOM, which often produced subpar artwork and numerous coloring, model, and continuity errors, though with a slightly higher frame rate than Toei-animated episodes). A few episodes, though, such as "Chaos", "Dweller in the Depths", "Call of the Primatives", and "The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2", though, rank as among the best-animated episodes in the series (mainly because they were animated by Toei, except for "Primatives"; to this day, the studio that animated "Primatives" remains unknown). A few other episodes, such as "Webworld" and "Dark Awakening" rank as among the best-written episodes of the series. ** And then However there are those who a few episodes that are given seen as really good and some parts of the fandom feel that season two was the weakest 3 actually made some improvements over season of the series, and that the third season was 2, like having a step up with the show becoming more of a science fiction epic that really branched out the mythology, a smaller core manageable cast of characters who were more interesting and three-dimensional, that really paved the way for what the franchise would eventually become.size or bigger scale plots.
19th Dec '15 5:51:00 PM DemonaFanX
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** And then there are those who think that the Movie and season three were the actual growing of the beard.

* RootingForTheEmpire: While the Autobots are hardly unpopular (especially Optimus Prime as demonstrated below), the Decepticons sell as many toys and are often considered more developed and less gimmicky or bland characters than some of the heroes. Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream especially. That the Autobots and some of their allies were prone to odd moments of MoralDissonance exacerbated this a little.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: While the Autobots are hardly unpopular (especially Optimus Prime as demonstrated below), the Decepticons sell as many toys and are often considered more developed and less gimmicky or bland characters than some of the heroes. Megatron, Soundwave Soundwave, Starscream, Galvatron, and Starscream Cyclonus especially. That the Autobots and some of their allies were prone to odd moments of MoralDissonance exacerbated this a little.
17th Dec '15 7:02:59 PM DemonaFanX
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** Optimus Prime in "Return of Optimus Prime" and "The Rebirth".
14th Dec '15 2:49:08 PM DemonaFanX
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** And then there are those who feel that season two was the weakest season of the series, and that the third season was a step up with the show becoming more of a science fiction epic that really branched out the mythology, a smaller core cast of characters who were more interesting and three-dimensional, that really paved the way for what the franchise would eventually become.
19th Nov '15 5:47:27 PM Psi001
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* RootingForTheEmpire: While the Autobots are hardly unpopular (especially Optimus Prime as demonstrated below), the Decepticons sell as many toys and are often considered more developed and less gimmicky or bland characters than some of the heroes. Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream especially. That the Autobots and some of their allies were prone to odd moments of MoralDissonance exacerbated this a little.
14th Nov '15 4:51:05 PM nombretomado
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** The references to Brawn being a RobotChicken in "Fire on the Mountain".
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** The references to Brawn being a RobotChicken ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' in "Fire on the Mountain".
2nd Nov '15 12:56:28 PM TitoMosquito
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* MemeticMutation - "Soundwave superior. Constructicons inferior."
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* MemeticMutation - MemeticMutation: ** "Soundwave superior. Constructicons inferior." *** Which led to "Soundwave superior, [insert name] inferior."

*** "B.O.T" probably qualifies as well, if not for just plain bad, due to the massive IdiotPlot around three of the dumbest humans to ever exist and their stupidity seemingly affecting the rest of the cast as the episode goes on. Two of the humans, Roland and Martin, are the most unrepetent [[Jerkass Jerkasses]] in the series, dragging the third human (Elise) around (at the end of the episode, they tape her mouth shut and drag her away in a mysogonistic manner while the Autobots do NOTHING) and using a laser that can kill people as a prank. A prime candidate for SnarkBait.
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*** "B.O.T" probably qualifies as well, if not for just plain bad, due to the massive IdiotPlot around three of the dumbest humans to ever exist and their stupidity seemingly affecting the rest of the cast as the episode goes on. Two of the humans, Roland and Martin, are the most unrepetent [[Jerkass Jerkasses]] unrepentant {{Jerkass}}es in the series, dragging the third human (Elise) around (at the end of the episode, they tape her mouth shut and drag her away in a mysogonistic manner while the Autobots do NOTHING) and using a laser that can kill people as a prank. A prime candidate for SnarkBait.

* {{Squick}} - Kiss Players, which contains [[spoiler: not only lolicon, but penis tongues]].
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* {{Squick}} - {{Squick}}: Kiss Players, which contains [[spoiler: not only lolicon, but penis tongues]].
11th Oct '15 5:17:59 AM starofjusticev21
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* EvilIsCool: The Decepticons tended to have alt modes that would seem more interesting to the toy line's target audience like fighter jets, giant robot bugs, and even a handgun (not today, due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers toy safety laws in the United States banning "realistic firearm replicas), plus they were the first side to have things like triple-changers and a subfaction whose members could [[CombiningMecha all combine into one great big robot]].
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* EvilIsCool: The Decepticons tended to have alt modes that would seem more interesting to the toy line's target audience like fighter jets, giant robot bugs, and even a handgun (not today, due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers toy safety laws in the United States banning "realistic firearm replicas), plus replicas]]). Plus they were the first side to have things like triple-changers and a subfaction whose members could [[CombiningMecha all combine into one great big robot]].
3rd Oct '15 11:13:23 PM BNSF1995
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* EvilIsCool: The Decepticons tended to have alt mods that would seem more interesting to the toy line's target audience like fighter jets and giant robot bugs, plus they were the first side to have things like triple-changers and a subfaction whose members could [[CombiningMecha all combine into one great big robot]].
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* EvilIsCool: The Decepticons tended to have alt mods modes that would seem more interesting to the toy line's target audience like fighter jets and jets, giant robot bugs, and even a handgun (not today, due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers toy safety laws in the United States banning "realistic firearm replicas), plus they were the first side to have things like triple-changers and a subfaction whose members could [[CombiningMecha all combine into one great big robot]].

** Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge were nicknamed "the Coneheads" because of their cone shaped-heads.
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** Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge were nicknamed "the Coneheads" because of their cone shaped-heads.shaped-heads, at least in the cartoons; their boxart and instructions in the toyline depict their heads as normal-looking Seekers.

* FoeYay: Megatron never did punish Starscream that much for his disloyalty...[[spoiler: Until he became Galvatron, that is.]]
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* FoeYay: Megatron never did punish Starscream that much for his disloyalty...disloyalty, usually just a verbal lashing or the occassional physical altercation...[[spoiler: Until he became Galvatron, that is.]]

* GrowingTheBeard: Subverted. Season 2 showed a lot of signs of improvement (stronger and bigger scale plots, more backstory, more spotlight episodes and characterization, better animation, etc.) but the last few episodes of the season and season 3 promptly took a nosedive in quality.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Subverted. Season 2 showed a lot of signs of improvement (stronger and bigger scale plots, more backstory, more spotlight episodes and characterization, better animation, etc.) but the last few episodes of the season and season 3 promptly took a nosedive in quality.quality, bar a few really dark episodes such as "Webworld", "Fight or Flee", "Call of the Primatives", "Dark Awakening", and the two-parter "The Return of Optimus Prime".

* HoYay: Rodimus Prime admits to dreaming about Optimus. His own voice actor (jokingly) claimed the character was gay.
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* HoYay: Rodimus Prime admits to dreaming about Optimus. His own voice actor (jokingly) claimed the character was gay.gay, despite many incarnations of the character being romantically-linked to Arcee.

* NightmareRetardant: Megatron, you know that scope that turns into his iconic black hole gun? That scope and other accessories aren't from a real Walther P38 but were made up by the prop department of ''Series/TheManFromUncle'', which means the most fearsome Decepticon of them all either turns into a TV prop, or more likely some kid's toy based on a TV prop.[[note]]This is actually made explicit in the original Japanese ''Microchange'' toy he's based on, where they're all tiny aliens who disguise themselves as toys and other household objects in a little boy's bedroom. Incidentally this is also why the original Bumblebee and other minibots had such goofy proportions, since they were meant to represent toy cars.[[/note]] * OneSceneWonder: Hauler's appearance in cartoon was very brief. However, his similarity to both Grapple and the Constructicons led to various theories about his origins, before the character got an official background story which depicts him as a rogue member of the Constructicons.
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* NightmareRetardant: Megatron, you know that scope that turns into his iconic black hole gun? That scope and other accessories aren't from a real Walther P38 but were made up by the prop department of ''Series/TheManFromUncle'', which means the most fearsome Decepticon of them all either turns into a TV prop, or more likely some kid's toy based on a TV prop.[[note]]This is actually made explicit in the original Japanese ''Microchange'' toy he's based on, where they're all tiny aliens who disguise themselves as toys and other household objects in a little boy's bedroom. Soundwave, Rumble/Frenzy, Laserbeak/Buzzsaw, Ravage, Blaster, and Perceptor also came from this line, as did an unproduced Planet-Robo that eventually became Unicron. Incidentally this is also why the original Bumblebee and the other minibots 1984 Mini-Cars (IE Cliffjumper, Brawn) had such goofy goofy, Penny Racer-style proportions, since they were meant to represent toy cars.[[/note]] * OneSceneWonder: Hauler's appearance in cartoon was very brief. However, his similarity to both Grapple and the Constructicons led to various theories about his origins, before the character got an official background story which depicts him as a rogue member of the Constructicons.Constructicons, complete with an E-HOBBY exclusive redeco of Grapple.

* SavedByTheFans: Optimus Prime is probably the most famous example of this, being brought back after the massive backlash from being KilledOffForReal in the movie. Though in this case it was less "Saved by the fans" and more "Saved by letters of complaint from the angry moms of traumatized children".
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* SavedByTheFans: Optimus Prime is probably the most famous example of this, being brought back after the massive backlash from being KilledOffForReal in the movie. Though in this case it was less "Saved by the fans" and more "Saved by letters of complaint from the angry moms of traumatized children". They did this in spite of the cartoon being MerchandiseDriven, as when Optimus was resurrected, he had no toy on the shelves (bar any unsold Optimus Prime toys, or the fact that the toy was actually in production due to its popularity, but not publicly advertised beyond voice-overs in commercials providing narration for the new Autobot toys). Optimus would not get another toy until the 1988 Powermaster toy.

** [[RhymesOnADime Wheelie was as unpopular as can be when he appeared in Season 3]]. * SeasonalRot: Season 3 is widely considered a step down from the previous two seasons due to killing off/writing out most of the cast in favor of new toys, drastically changing the setting and style, and the animation becoming worse than ever.
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** [[RhymesOnADime Wheelie was as unpopular as can be when he appeared in Season 3]]. 3; not helped by the fact he actually SOUNDED like Scrappy-Doo in his first commercial appearance]]. * SeasonalRot: Season 3 is widely considered a step down from the previous two seasons due to killing off/writing out most of the cast in favor of new toys, drastically changing the setting and style, and the animation becoming worse than ever. ever (which can be laid at they feet of South Korean studio AKOM, which often produced subpar artwork and numerous coloring, model, and continuity errors, though with a slightly higher frame rate than Toei-animated episodes). A few episodes, though, such as "Chaos", "Dweller in the Depths", "Call of the Primatives", and "The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2", though, rank as among the best-animated episodes in the series (mainly because they were animated by Toei, except for "Primatives"; to this day, the studio that animated "Primatives" remains unknown). A few other episodes, such as "Webworld" and "Dark Awakening" rank as among the best-written episodes of the series.

** "A Prime Problem" is another example because the plot is completely ludicrous (everyone has the IdiotBall) and Optimus Prime hilariously flubs Spike and Trailbreaker's names. At least neither are as bad as "B.O.T.".
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** "A Prime Problem" is another example because the plot is completely ludicrous (everyone has the IdiotBall) and Optimus Prime hilariously flubs Spike and Trailbreaker's names.names (Spike as "Splick", and Trailbreaker as "Trailblazer"; the latter case is HilariousInHindsight, though, as the name "Trailblazer" was used interchangeably with "Trailcutter" when Hasbro lost the trademark to the name "Trailbreaker". At least neither are as bad as "B.O.T.".

*** "B.O.T" probably qualifies as well, if not for just plain bad, due to the massive IdiotPlot around three of the dumbest humans to ever exist and their stupidity seemingly affecting the rest of the cast as the episode goes on. A prime candidate for SnarkBait.
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*** "B.O.T" probably qualifies as well, if not for just plain bad, due to the massive IdiotPlot around three of the dumbest humans to ever exist and their stupidity seemingly affecting the rest of the cast as the episode goes on. Two of the humans, Roland and Martin, are the most unrepetent [[Jerkass Jerkasses]] in the series, dragging the third human (Elise) around (at the end of the episode, they tape her mouth shut and drag her away in a mysogonistic manner while the Autobots do NOTHING) and using a laser that can kill people as a prank. A prime candidate for SnarkBait.

* SpecialEffectsFailure: More often than not combined with OffModel.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: More often than not combined with OffModel. Much of this was caused by the low-budget Korean studio AKOM in three second season episodes, much of season three, and all three fourth season episodes.
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