History YMMV / TransformersGeneration1

1st Sep '17 2:50:00 PM chasemaddigan
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* CompleteMonster:
** [[PhysicalGod Unicron]] is an ancient [[PlanetEater planet-eating]] Transformer that was created by a MadScientist called Primacron. Primacron created Unicron to help him take over the universe, but he rebelled and destroyed Primacron's lab. Unicron travelled through space and devoured many inhabited worlds, including the planet of Lithone. After learning of Optimus Prime's death and his passing of the Matrix of Leadership, Unicron tracked down Megatron and tasked him to destroy it, as it was the only thing that could stand in his way. Torturing Megatron into accepting his deal, Unicron reformatted him into Galvatron and made him more susceptible to his psychic assaults. Galvatron, tired of being Unicron's pawn, tried to use the Matrix to turn Unicron into his slave, but it had no effect in his hands. In retaliation, Unicron started [[OmnicidalManiac destroying Cybertron and attacked both Autobot and Decepticon alike]]. Unicron was eventually defeated by a Matrix-wielding Rodimus and only his head remained to orbit Cybertron, a testament to the [[GreaterScopeVillain Transformer]] that made even the mighty [[BigBad Megatron]] beg for mercy.
** [[TheAntichrist Megatronus Prime]], debuting in ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne, is known to all and sundry as [[FallenAngel The Fallen]]. If Unicron is the UltimateEvil, than The Fallen is [[{{Satan}} his Archangel Lucifer]]. Created by Primus as one of the original Thirteen Primes, [[FallenHero The Fallen]] became obsessed with the notions of [[OmnicidalManiac entropy and decay]], ultimately attempting to murder his creator after [[FaceHeelTurn betraying him]] to Unicron. Escaping the [[SealedEvilInACan prison he was trapped]] in some seven million years before the 21st century, The Fallen visited the G1 continuity, gathered several Decepticon outcasts and kidnapped four Transformers, through which he tried to channel enough energy to break the Seal of Primus, awaken Unicron, and end all reality, boasting that his victims were but "[[AGodAmI casualties in the wars of the Gods]]." Sharing his master's unquenchable thirst for destruction, [[TheDragon The Fallen]] is precisely the kind of servant that [[GodOfEvil Unicron]] most needs.

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* CompleteMonster:
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CompleteMonster: [[PhysicalGod Unicron]] is an ancient [[PlanetEater planet-eating]] Transformer that was created by a MadScientist called Primacron. Primacron created Unicron to help him take over the universe, but he rebelled and destroyed Primacron's lab. Unicron travelled through space and devoured many inhabited worlds, including the planet of Lithone. After learning of Optimus Prime's death and his passing of the Matrix of Leadership, Unicron tracked down Megatron and tasked him to destroy it, as it was the only thing that could stand in his way. Torturing Megatron into accepting his deal, Unicron reformatted him into Galvatron and made him more susceptible to his psychic assaults. Galvatron, tired of being Unicron's pawn, tried to use the Matrix to turn Unicron into his slave, but it had no effect in his hands. In retaliation, Unicron started [[OmnicidalManiac destroying Cybertron and attacked both Autobot and Decepticon alike]]. Unicron was eventually defeated by a Matrix-wielding Rodimus and only his head remained to orbit Cybertron, a testament to the [[GreaterScopeVillain Transformer]] that made even the mighty [[BigBad Megatron]] beg for mercy.
** [[TheAntichrist Megatronus Prime]], debuting in ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne, is known to all and sundry as [[FallenAngel The Fallen]]. If Unicron is the UltimateEvil, than The Fallen is [[{{Satan}} his Archangel Lucifer]]. Created by Primus as one of the original Thirteen Primes, [[FallenHero The Fallen]] became obsessed with the notions of [[OmnicidalManiac entropy and decay]], ultimately attempting to murder his creator after [[FaceHeelTurn betraying him]] to Unicron. Escaping the [[SealedEvilInACan prison he was trapped]] in some seven million years before the 21st century, The Fallen visited the G1 continuity, gathered several Decepticon outcasts and kidnapped four Transformers, through which he tried to channel enough energy to break the Seal of Primus, awaken Unicron, and end all reality, boasting that his victims were but "[[AGodAmI casualties in the wars of the Gods]]." Sharing his master's unquenchable thirst for destruction, [[TheDragon The Fallen]] is precisely the kind of servant that [[GodOfEvil Unicron]] most needs.
mercy.
26th Aug '17 7:08:02 AM Bluecatcinema
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Cerebros. Unlike First Aid, whose own pacifist beliefs were written in a way that made him sympathetic, Cerebros just comes off as whiny and self-centred. Throughout the "Rebirth" trilogy, he refuses to lift a finger to help his fellow Autobots, and shows no guilt over it (at least First Aid showed some regret over the fact that his non-violent ways were of little help to the Autobots), putting his own desire not to fight over their very survival. Though he does show a more respectable side when he agrees to be part of Fortress Maximus in order to help Spike save Daniel, the act does imply that he cares more for humans than his own kind.
17th Aug '17 12:35:53 PM SpinAttaxx
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*** That same episode, albeit [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsCUxmQ6vtQ?t=3m in a deleted scene]], saw Megatron transform into a jet mode instead of his usual gun mode as a result of the aforementioned power taking. Nowadays, Megatron toys often give him a jet mode (when they don't go for a tank) owing to toy guns being frowned upon in the 21st century.

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*** That same episode, albeit [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsCUxmQ6vtQ?t=3m [[https://youtu.be/hsCUxmQ6vtQ?t=3m in a deleted scene]], saw Megatron transform into a jet mode instead of his usual gun mode as a result of the aforementioned power taking. Nowadays, Megatron toys often give him a jet mode (when they don't go for a tank) owing to toy guns being frowned upon in the 21st century.
17th Aug '17 12:34:19 PM SpinAttaxx
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*** That same episode, albeit [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsCUxmQ6vtQ?t=3m in a deleted scene]], saw Megatron transform into a jet mode instead of his usual gun mode as a result of the aforementioned power taking. Nowadays, Megatron toys often give him a jet mode (when they don't go for a tank) owing to toy guns being frowned upon in the 21st century.
14th Aug '17 1:04:36 AM flamemario12
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* BadassDecay: Devastator seemed to cop this with the arrival of new Combiner teams who applied TheWorfEffect on the Constructicons.
** Justified, it you think about it, as Devastator is frequently portrayed as the first Combiner and a prototype.
** Of Course, then you look at Menasor. Menasor was one of the most powerful combiners, taking down his counterpart Superion in their debut, and only losing when facing both Superion and Omega Supreme, his next appearance had him take down Bruticus, come Season 3, a few shots to the back took him down.

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* BadassDecay: BadassDecay:
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Devastator seemed to cop this with the arrival of new Combiner teams who applied TheWorfEffect on the Constructicons.
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Constructicons. Justified, it if you think about it, as Devastator is frequently portrayed as the first Combiner and a prototype.
** Of Course, then you look at Menasor. Menasor was one of the most powerful combiners, taking down his counterpart Superion in their debut, and only losing when facing both Superion and Omega Supreme, his next appearance had him take down Bruticus, come Season 3, a few shots to the back took him down.
10th Aug '17 11:48:08 AM DrakeClawfang
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* {{Narm}}: Megatron transforms into a pistol for his alt mode, which means that in many large-scale fights the terrifying badass leader of the Decepticons transforms into a gun and lets a subordinate shoot him, rather than fight himself. Bonus silliness for it often being TheStarscream. It also proved to be AwesomeButImpractical when his real life toy constantly ran into legal problems for looking like a realistic handgun, a ''big'' no-no for American toy manufacturing laws. Hasbro themselves seemed to realize the gun thing really didn't work, as a lot of future Megatron appearances, including the G1 expanded universe, make him into a tank instead.

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* {{Narm}}: Megatron transforms into a pistol for his alt mode, which means that in many large-scale fights the terrifying badass leader of the Decepticons transforms into a gun and lets a subordinate shoot him, rather than fight himself. Bonus silliness for it often being TheStarscream. The writers for the first live-action movie noted this idea never sat well with them, and compared it to [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]] turning into a lightsaber and letting a Stormtrooper wield him. It also proved to be AwesomeButImpractical when his real life toy constantly ran into legal problems for looking like a realistic handgun, a ''big'' no-no for American toy manufacturing laws.laws in numerous countries[[note]]To this day, toys based on the G1 Megatron cannot be purchased in some countries without a license, if at all[[/note]]. Hasbro themselves seemed to realize the gun thing really didn't work, as a lot of future Megatron appearances, including the G1 expanded universe, make him into a tank instead.
7th Aug '17 2:34:16 PM Killerikala
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* FridgeLogic: Megatron's altmode makes him extremely vulnerable. Starscream could just crush him under his foot or in his hand. Even if Megatron remains his toughness in his altmode, he could be easily imprisoned while transformed. On the other hand, this is Starscream we're talking about.
20th Jul '17 4:25:21 PM DrakeClawfang
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* NarmCharm: Some fans love the show for this.

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* {{Narm}}: Megatron transforms into a pistol for his alt mode, which means that in many large-scale fights the terrifying badass leader of the Decepticons transforms into a gun and lets a subordinate shoot him, rather than fight himself. Bonus silliness for it often being TheStarscream. It also proved to be AwesomeButImpractical when his real life toy constantly ran into legal problems for looking like a realistic handgun, a ''big'' no-no for American toy manufacturing laws. Hasbro themselves seemed to realize the gun thing really didn't work, as a lot of future Megatron appearances, including the G1 expanded universe, make him into a tank instead.
* NarmCharm: Some fans love the show for this. The inconsistent animation and silly writing make it SoBadItsGood at times, but it's part of what made G1 what it was, and won over the fans for it.
16th Jul '17 2:19:39 AM Killerikala
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* NightmareFuel: [[TheStoic Soundwave]] ''laughing''! No, you read it right. Still sceptical? [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iiVylwMBH4 Here's proof]].

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* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
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[[TheStoic Soundwave]] ''laughing''! No, you read it right. Still sceptical? [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iiVylwMBH4 Here's proof]].proof]].
** [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/It This... thing.]] It might have been a very early Prime, but looks more like the Quintessan judge. What is that thing?
6th Jul '17 2:07:09 PM boatsnot
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* AccidentalInnuendo: Megatron would turn into a gun to be wielded by another Decepticon, usually Starscream. The implications are staggering. In case your mind wasn't dirty enough to get it at first: Starscream holds Megatron in his hands, then pulls Megatron's trigger, making him shoot out. And to FURTHER add to this, the original Megatron toy had his trigger for his [[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/g1-1984/megatron/35/1/61/ crotch]], a point that ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken''.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: Megatron would turn into a gun to be wielded by another Decepticon, usually Starscream. The implications are staggering. In case your mind wasn't dirty enough to get it at first: Starscream holds Megatron in his hands, then pulls Megatron's trigger, making him shoot out. And to FURTHER add to this, the original Megatron toy had his trigger for his [[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/g1-1984/megatron/35/1/61/ crotch]], a point that ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken''.''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' made.
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