History YMMV / TourDeFrance

26th Jul '17 2:35:29 AM KrisDK
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** [[http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/Thomas_De_Gendt Thomas De Gendt]] smashed the previous record for most kilometers spent in breakaways in the 2017 edition (1047, 206 more than the previous), but didn't take the combativity award. De Gendt was sure that it was because he isn't French.

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** [[http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/Thomas_De_Gendt Thomas De Gendt]] smashed the previous record for most kilometers spent in breakaways in the 2017 edition (1047, 206 more than the previous), but didn't take the combativity award. De Gendt was sure implied that it was because he isn't French.
23rd Jul '17 10:34:56 AM KrisDK
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** [[http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/Thomas_De_Gendt Thomas De Gendt]] smashed the previous record for most kilometers spent in breakaways in the 2017 edition (1047, 206 more than the previous), but didn't take the combativity award. De Gendt was sure that it was because he isn't French.
7th Jul '17 4:00:10 AM KrisDK
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* BlessedWithSuck: Having the leaders jersey after any stage that doesn't end on Champs Elysses could be this. Yes, you're leading the race, but you also have to do a doping test after every stage, as well as mandatory interviews. Furthermore, your team is expected to set the early pace on most stages. Astana speculated in allowing Nocentini to wear the yellow jersey for as long as possible during the 2009 Tour, as it would be more of a blessing for him an his team (little chance of winning, lots of sponsor exposure), and Astana considered having Nibali drop 3 seconds on his team mate Fuglsang after stage 5 of the 2014 edition, such that Nibali could go straight home and rest after each stage - at least until taking yellow (two stages after, if Fuglsang's performances with/without yellow could be scaled one-to-one).

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* BlessedWithSuck: Having the leaders jersey after any stage that doesn't end on Champs Elysses could be this. Yes, you're leading the race, but you also have to do a doping test after every stage, as well as mandatory interviews. Furthermore, your team is expected to set the early pace on most stages. Astana speculated in allowing Nocentini to wear the yellow jersey for as long as possible during the 2009 Tour, as it would be more of a blessing for him an his team (little chance of winning, lots of sponsor exposure), and Astana considered having Nibali drop 3 seconds on his team mate Fuglsang after stage 5 of the 2014 edition, such that Nibali could go straight home to the hotel and rest after each stage - at least until taking yellow (two stages after, if Fuglsang's performances with/without yellow could be scaled one-to-one).again.
7th Jul '17 3:59:11 AM KrisDK
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* BlessedWithSuck: Having the leaders jersey after any stage that doesn't end on Champs Elysses could be this. Yes, you're leading the race, but you also have to do a doping test after every stage, as well as mandatory interviews. Furthermore, your team is expected to set the early pace on most stages. Astana speculated in allowing Nocentini to wear the yellow jersey for as long as possible during the 2009 Tour, as it would be more of a blessing for him an his team (little chance of winning, lots of sponsor exposure), and Astana considered having Nibali drop 3 seconds on his team mate Fuglsang after stage 5 of the 2014 edition, such that Nibali could go straight home and rest after each stage - at least until taking yellow (two stages after, if Fuglsang's performances with/without yellow could be scaled one-to-one).
30th Mar '17 1:57:35 AM KrisDK
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* AttackAttackAttack: The way most French riders and teams act. Justified by the fact that they don't have any serious GC contender, and haven't had for years (though maybe Pinot, Rolland, or Bardet could become that), and no sprinter who can race with the best in the bunch sprints (Démare, Bouhanni and Couqard look like future contenders in that discipline). Other riders (like Jens Voigt) also have this driving style.

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* AttackAttackAttack: The During a long period, this was the way most French riders and teams act. Justified by the fact acted. At that point, they don't didn't have any serious top GC contender, and haven't contenders or top sprinters, so to achieve success, they had for years (though maybe to attack. With the emergence of Pinot, Rolland, or Bardet could become that), and no sprinter who can race with Barguil for the best in the bunch sprints (Démare, GC; and Démare, Bouhanni and Couqard look like future contenders in that discipline).the sprints, French WT teams and Cofidis ride more conservatively than they used to. Expect other wild card teams to be on the attack. Other riders (like Jens Voigt) also have this driving style.
20th Jul '16 10:07:45 PM MarsJenkar
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming / TearJerker: The somber jersey presentation on Stage 13 of the 2016 edition, in the wake of the Nice attack. No music, no boisterous announcements and presentations of the sponsors. All the jersey wearers (along with the stage winner) quietly filed on to the presentation stage, victory bouquets in hand, and they placed their bouquets down in a pile in front of them, in memory of the lives lost in Nice. A minute of silence was then observed.



** Gilberto Simoni has won two Giros and has five other podium places in the same race. He would always have high expectations alog with him, coming to France, but the best he's ever done is a 17th place in the GC.

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** Gilberto Simoni has won two Giros and has five other podium places in the same race. He would always have high expectations alog along with him, coming to France, but the best he's ever done is a 17th place in the GC.
14th Jul '16 10:36:40 PM MarsJenkar
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** Less rationally, the race officials have taken quite a bit of guff for their decision to move the finish of stage 12 in the 2016 edition six kilometers from the top, stating that was what caused the overcrowding of the roads further down the slope (and the insufficient barricades to keep them back), and therefore the crash of Froome and two other riders. While this wasn't ''entirely'' false, [[LesserOfTwoEvils the alternative was far worse]], as the peak of Mont Ventoux was forecast with wind gusts up to 125 km/h (~78 mph), a prediction which proved true. Forcing the riders to ride bicycles in hurricane-force winds goes against all sorts of regulations and safety policies, and would (rightfully) have generated far more rage from ''everyone''. As bad as the crowds ended up being, it was still better than the alternative.
14th Jul '16 10:32:46 PM MarsJenkar
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** Thoughtless and disruptive fans have become this in the 2016 edition, first with a fan accidentally causing the ''flamme rouge'' on stage 7 to collapse in front of the peloton, then with fans clogging the roads on stage 12 to the point that they caused a three-rider group (yellow jersey wearer Chris Froome, as well as GC contenders Richie Porte and Bauke Mollema) to crash into a motorbike that couldn't get through. In both cases, race officials elected to award time back to the affected riders (on stage 7, by taking the time check at 3 kilometers from the finish, and on stage 12, by giving the three riders who crashed the same time as the fastest finisher of the three--Bauke Mollema, who had managed to get back on his bike quickly and had therefore lost far less time than the others). The fans at stage 12 didn't gain any sympathy points by their reaction to Froome getting back the yellow jersey that day; they actually ''booed'' him at the presentation. To a lesser extent, the race officials have taken some guff for not being able to control the crowd.

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** Thoughtless and disruptive fans have become this in the 2016 edition, first with a fan accidentally causing the ''flamme rouge'' on stage 7 to collapse in front of the peloton, then with fans clogging the roads on stage 12 to the point that they caused a three-rider group (yellow jersey wearer Chris Froome, as well as GC contenders Richie Porte and Bauke Mollema) to crash into a motorbike that couldn't get through. In both cases, race officials elected to award time back to the affected riders (on stage 7, by taking the time check at 3 kilometers from the finish, and on stage 12, by giving the three riders who crashed the same time as the fastest finisher of the three--Bauke Mollema, who had managed to get back on his bike quickly and had therefore lost far less time than the others). The fans at stage 12 didn't gain any sympathy points by their reaction to Froome getting back the yellow jersey that day; they actually ''booed'' him at the presentation. To a lesser extent, the race officials have taken some guff for not being able taking more steps to control the crowd.
14th Jul '16 10:29:37 PM MarsJenkar
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14th Jul '16 10:21:27 PM MarsJenkar
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** Thoughtless and disruptive fans have become this in the 2016 edition, first with a fan accidentally causing the ''flamme rouge'' on stage 7 to collapse in front of the peloton, then with fans clogging the roads on stage 12 to the point that they caused a three-rider group (yellow jersey wearer Chris Froome, as well as GC contenders Richie Porte and Bauke Mollema) to crash into a motorbike that couldn't get through. In both cases, race officials elected to award time back to the affected riders (on stage 7, by taking the time check at 3 kilometers from the finish, and on stage 12, by giving the three riders who crashed the same time as the fastest finisher of the three--Bauke Mollema, who had managed to get back on his bike quickly and had therefore lost far less time than the others). The fans at stage 12 didn't gain any sympathy points by their reaction to Froome getting back the yellow jersey that day; they actually ''booed'' him at the presentation.

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** Thoughtless and disruptive fans have become this in the 2016 edition, first with a fan accidentally causing the ''flamme rouge'' on stage 7 to collapse in front of the peloton, then with fans clogging the roads on stage 12 to the point that they caused a three-rider group (yellow jersey wearer Chris Froome, as well as GC contenders Richie Porte and Bauke Mollema) to crash into a motorbike that couldn't get through. In both cases, race officials elected to award time back to the affected riders (on stage 7, by taking the time check at 3 kilometers from the finish, and on stage 12, by giving the three riders who crashed the same time as the fastest finisher of the three--Bauke Mollema, who had managed to get back on his bike quickly and had therefore lost far less time than the others). The fans at stage 12 didn't gain any sympathy points by their reaction to Froome getting back the yellow jersey that day; they actually ''booed'' him at the presentation. To a lesser extent, the race officials have taken some guff for not being able to control the crowd.
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