History YMMV / TourDeFrance

28th Nov '15 12:49:21 PM KrisDK
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* TheScrappy: [[JerkAss Lance]] [[TheBully Armstrong]] could never achieve any popularity in the French public, even before allegations of doping (a harsh contrast with his still fondly respected fellow countryman Greg [=LeMond=]). It was to the point that the messages of "encouragement" painted on the road by the supporters used the "F" word (yes, in English) when they were about Armstrong.

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* TheScrappy: [[JerkAss Lance]] [[TheBully Armstrong]] could never achieve any popularity in the French public, even before allegations of doping (a harsh contrast with his still fondly respected fellow countryman Greg [=LeMond=]). It was to the point that the messages of "encouragement" painted on the road by the supporters used the "F" word (yes, in English) when they were about Armstrong.Armstrong
** Team Sky has become this to some as well, being rather negatively received in the 2015 edition. Some of the more extreme "fan" actions against Sky got cyclists across the teams to tell these "fans" to get their shit together..
14th Jul '15 11:19:12 AM KrisDK
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** Rafal Majka on the 17th stage of the 2014 edition grabs on to a motorcycle briefly during an attack [[http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/23/tour-de-france-2014-stage-17 (go to 0:42 in the video)]]. He would most likely have won the stage anyway, without incurring the wrath of officials. The punishment was so small and irrelevant (50 Swiss franc, 10 second docked in the GC and 5 points lost in the points competition), that it was appropriate for that stunt that didn't win him more than 5 seconds on the stage.

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** Rafal Majka on the 17th stage of the 2014 edition grabs on to a motorcycle briefly during an attack [[http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/23/tour-de-france-2014-stage-17 (go to 0:42 in the video)]]. He would most likely have won the stage anyway, without incurring the wrath of officials. The punishment was so small and irrelevant (50 Swiss franc, 10 second docked in the GC and [[CompletelyMissingThePoint 5 points lost in the points competition), competition]]), that it was appropriate for that stunt that didn't win him more than 5 seconds on the stage.
11th Jul '15 1:30:21 PM KrisDK
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** Luca Paolini takes this one on several points, at least if it's true that he did cocaine on or before stage 4 in 2015. Aside from the obvious downsides to cocaine use, it's easy to test for compared to other kinds of doping, and Paolini's primary strength as a rider is being TheSmartGuy[[note]]he is by no means weak, but his intelligence, positioning, experience and technical ability are his primary assets[[/note]], which isn't where coke helps.
9th Jul '15 8:36:58 AM MarsJenkar
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** Downplayed in 2014. Thanks to the promotion of Team Europcar to UCI Pro level, and the dissolution of Sojasun, there were only two French Pro Continental teams left ''to'' invite (Perennial invitee Cofidis, and Bretagne-Seche Environnement). There were four wild-card slots, so for the first time in years, two wild-card teams were ''not'' French: IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though not the ''only'' factor) in that team's selection.

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** Downplayed in 2014. Thanks to the promotion of Team Europcar to UCI Pro level, and the dissolution of Sojasun, there were only two French Pro Continental teams left ''to'' invite (Perennial (perennial invitee Cofidis, and Bretagne-Seche Environnement). There were four wild-card slots, so for the first time in years, two wild-card teams were ''not'' French: IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though not the ''only'' factor) in that team's selection. Downplayed again in 2015, for similar reasons (three French Pro Continental teams, five wild card slots).
5th Jul '15 8:59:23 AM KrisDK
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* {{Nepotism}}: Some riders, especially Alberto Contador, are accused of insisting that their friends take part in the race over stronger riders.
20th Aug '14 10:43:58 AM KrisDK
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** Rafal Majka on the 17th stage of the 2014 edition grabs on to a motorcycle briefly during an attack [[http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/23/tour-de-france-2014-stage-17 (go to 0:42 in the video)]]. He would most likely have won the stage anyway, without incurring the wrath of officials. The punishment was so small and irrelevant (50 Swiss franc, 10 second docked in the GC and 5 points lost in the points competition), that it was appropriate for that stunt that didn't win him more than 5 seconds on the stage.
28th Jul '14 12:11:50 PM MarsJenkar
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** Downplayed in 2014. Thanks to the promotion of Team Europcar to UCI Pro level, and the dissolution of Sojasun, there were only two French Continental teams left ''to'' invite (Perennial invitee Cofidis, and Bretagne-Seche Environnement). There were four wild-card slots, so for the first time in years, two wild-card teams were ''not'' French: IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though not the ''only'' factor) in that team's selection.

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** Downplayed in 2014. Thanks to the promotion of Team Europcar to UCI Pro level, and the dissolution of Sojasun, there were only two French Pro Continental teams left ''to'' invite (Perennial invitee Cofidis, and Bretagne-Seche Environnement). There were four wild-card slots, so for the first time in years, two wild-card teams were ''not'' French: IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though not the ''only'' factor) in that team's selection.
28th Jul '14 10:40:58 AM MarsJenkar
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** Downplayed in 2014; of the four wild-card teams, only two were French (Cofidis[[note]]A perennial invitee[[/note]] and Bretagne-Seche Environnement); there was also IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though not the ''only'' factor) in that team's selection.

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** Downplayed in 2014; of 2014. Thanks to the four wild-card teams, promotion of Team Europcar to UCI Pro level, and the dissolution of Sojasun, there were only two were French (Cofidis[[note]]A perennial invitee[[/note]] Continental teams left ''to'' invite (Perennial invitee Cofidis, and Bretagne-Seche Environnement); there was also Environnement). There were four wild-card slots, so for the first time in years, two wild-card teams were ''not'' French: IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though not the ''only'' factor) in that team's selection.
24th Jul '14 5:05:10 PM MarsJenkar
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** Downplayed in 2014; of the four wild-card teams, only two were French (Cofidis[[note]]A perennial invitee[[/note]] and Bretagne-Seche Environnement); there was also IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though probably not the only factor) in that team's selection.

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** Downplayed in 2014; of the four wild-card teams, only two were French (Cofidis[[note]]A perennial invitee[[/note]] and Bretagne-Seche Environnement); there was also IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though probably not the only ''only'' factor) in that team's selection.
24th Jul '14 12:57:31 PM MarsJenkar
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* AttackAttackAttack: The way most French riders and teams act. Justified by the fact that they don't have any serious GC contender, and haven't had for years (though maybe Pinot or Rolland could become that), and no sprinter who can race with the best in the bunch sprints (Démare, Bouhanni and Couqard look like future contenders in that discipline). Other riders (like Jens Voigt) also have this driving style.

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* AttackAttackAttack: The way most French riders and teams act. Justified by the fact that they don't have any serious GC contender, and haven't had for years (though maybe Pinot Pinot, Rolland, or Rolland Bardet could become that), and no sprinter who can race with the best in the bunch sprints (Démare, Bouhanni and Couqard look like future contenders in that discipline). Other riders (like Jens Voigt) also have this driving style.



** Downplayed in 2014; of the four wild-card teams, only two were French (Cofidis[[note]]A perennial invitee[[/note]] and Bretagne-Seche Environnement); there was also IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor in that team's selection.

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** Downplayed in 2014; of the four wild-card teams, only two were French (Cofidis[[note]]A perennial invitee[[/note]] and Bretagne-Seche Environnement); there was also IAM Cycling (Swiss) and Team Netapp-Endura (German). IAM Cycling had the French rider Sylvain Chavanel--a combative rider and something of a fan favorite--which was likely a factor (though probably not the only factor) in that team's selection.



** Riders getting disqualified for getting paced too much by cars

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** Riders getting disqualified for getting paced too much by carscars. While it's permissible to ''briefly'' draft using cars (especially if it's many ''different'' cars, and the rider is moving forward through the convoy), staying in a single car's slipstream for a very long time isn't good for anything but incurring the wrath of the race officials.
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