History YMMV / TombRaider2013

16th Jun '18 4:19:14 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMee Seeing his fellow survivors as liabilities]], [[BigBad Father Mathias]] tricked many into sailing off Yamatai island to their deaths to prove that his theory escape by boat was impossible. Forming the violent [[{{Cult}} Solarii Brotherhood]], Mathias uses religious teachings he doesn't even believe in to distract the other survivors while he escapes alone. Initiating recruits into his cult by forcing them to go days or even weeks without food or water, many are driven to cannibalism, while Mathias is callous to their suffering; he [[BadBoss kills one]] for objecting to his order to blow up a bridge some of the cult members were on to stop Lara Croft. Convincing Dr. Whitman to betray the other survivors, Mathias later [[DirtyCoward leaves him to his death]] while trying to flee.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMee [[ItsAllAboutMe Seeing his fellow survivors as liabilities]], [[BigBad Father Mathias]] tricked many into sailing off Yamatai island to their deaths to prove that his theory escape by boat was impossible. Forming the violent [[{{Cult}} Solarii Brotherhood]], Mathias uses religious teachings he doesn't even believe in to distract the other survivors while he escapes alone. Initiating recruits into his cult by forcing them to go days or even weeks without food or water, many are driven to cannibalism, while Mathias is callous to their suffering; he [[BadBoss kills one]] for objecting to his order to blow up a bridge some of the cult members were on to stop Lara Croft. Convincing Dr. Whitman to betray the other survivors, Mathias later [[DirtyCoward leaves him to his death]] while trying to flee.
16th Jun '18 4:00:08 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Seeing his fellow survivors as liabilities, [[BigBad Father Mathias]] tricked many into sailing off Yamatai island to their deaths to prove that his theory escape by boat was impossible. Forming the violent [[{{Cult}} Solarii Brotherhood]], Mathias uses religious teachings [[StrawHypocrite he doesn't even believe in]] to distract the other survivors while he escapes alone. Initiating recruits into his cult by forcing them to go days or even weeks without food or water, many are driven to cannibalism, while Mathias is callous to their suffering; he [[BadBoss kills one]] for objecting to his order to blow up a bridge some of the cult members were on to stop Lara Croft. Convincing Dr. Whitman to betray the other survivors, Mathias later [[DirtyCoward leaves him to his death]] while trying to flee.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMee Seeing his fellow survivors as liabilities, liabilities]], [[BigBad Father Mathias]] tricked many into sailing off Yamatai island to their deaths to prove that his theory escape by boat was impossible. Forming the violent [[{{Cult}} Solarii Brotherhood]], Mathias uses religious teachings [[StrawHypocrite he doesn't even believe in]] in to distract the other survivors while he escapes alone. Initiating recruits into his cult by forcing them to go days or even weeks without food or water, many are driven to cannibalism, while Mathias is callous to their suffering; he [[BadBoss kills one]] for objecting to his order to blow up a bridge some of the cult members were on to stop Lara Croft. Convincing Dr. Whitman to betray the other survivors, Mathias later [[DirtyCoward leaves him to his death]] while trying to flee.
16th Jun '18 3:59:19 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: BigBad [[BadBoss Father Mathias]] demonstrates [[{{Narcissist}} narcissism]] in its [[ItsAllAboutMe ugliest form]]. His first diary entry reveals that he saw his fellow survivors from a 1982 plane crash in Yamatai as weak, stupid, and useless liabilities. As a result, he sends them sailing to their deaths simply to prove his theory that escaping the island by boat would be impossible. Eight years later, he forms the Solarii Brotherhood, an AxCrazy {{cult}} that worships Sun Queen Himiko. Mathias, however, sees no value in his followers nor Himiko, as the cult merely serves as a distraction for the other survivors to buy Mathias enough time to find the key to leaving the island by himself. As Lara Croft discovers, Mathias initiates new followers into his cult by having his recruits thrown into a chamber in the Geothermal Caverns and left to fend for themselves for days, even weeks, without water or food. This process destroyed his recruits' humanity and forced many to resort to cannibalism. Mathias also has no problem killing his own followers. When one of his men objects to destroying a bridge to stop Lara from escaping his hideout (which would kill some followers in the process), Mathias shoots the dissenter point blank and asks if there are any other “non-believers.” [[spoiler:After noticing that Lara and Conrad Roth's helicopter was shot down by a sudden lightning strike, he attacks the crash site and ultimately tosses a hatchet to kill Roth]]. Afterwards, Mathias convinces [[spoiler:Dr. Whitman]] to betray the survivors by recapturing Samantha Nishimura, Lara's best friend who is seen by Mathias as his key out of Yamatai. Not long afterwards, Mathias uses [[spoiler:Whitman to distract a pair of Oni]] and leaves his ally to die a brutal death.

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* CompleteMonster: BigBad [[BadBoss Father Mathias]] demonstrates [[{{Narcissist}} narcissism]] in its [[ItsAllAboutMe ugliest form]]. His first diary entry reveals that he saw Seeing his fellow survivors from a 1982 plane crash in as liabilities, [[BigBad Father Mathias]] tricked many into sailing off Yamatai as weak, stupid, and useless liabilities. As a result, he sends them sailing island to their deaths simply to prove that his theory that escaping the island escape by boat would be was impossible. Eight years later, he forms Forming the violent [[{{Cult}} Solarii Brotherhood, an AxCrazy {{cult}} that worships Sun Queen Himiko. Mathias, however, sees no value in his followers nor Himiko, as the cult merely serves as a distraction for Brotherhood]], Mathias uses religious teachings [[StrawHypocrite he doesn't even believe in]] to distract the other survivors to buy Mathias enough time to find the key to leaving the island by himself. As Lara Croft discovers, Mathias initiates new followers while he escapes alone. Initiating recruits into his cult by having his recruits thrown into a chamber in the Geothermal Caverns and left forcing them to fend for themselves for days, go days or even weeks, weeks without water food or food. This process destroyed his recruits' humanity and forced water, many are driven to resort to cannibalism. cannibalism, while Mathias also has no problem killing is callous to their suffering; he [[BadBoss kills one]] for objecting to his own followers. When one of his men objects order to destroying blow up a bridge some of the cult members were on to stop Lara from escaping his hideout (which would kill some followers in the process), Mathias shoots the dissenter point blank and asks if there are any other “non-believers.” [[spoiler:After noticing that Lara and Conrad Roth's helicopter was shot down by a sudden lightning strike, he attacks the crash site and ultimately tosses a hatchet to kill Roth]]. Afterwards, Mathias convinces [[spoiler:Dr. Whitman]] Croft. Convincing Dr. Whitman to betray the survivors by recapturing Samantha Nishimura, Lara's best friend who is seen by other survivors, Mathias as his key out of Yamatai. Not long afterwards, Mathias uses [[spoiler:Whitman to distract a pair of Oni]] and later [[DirtyCoward leaves him to his ally death]] while trying to die a brutal death. flee.
11th May '18 12:38:08 PM CynicalBastardo
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** Lara can be seen as one to [[''VideoGame/FarCry3'' Jason Brody]]: Both end up trapped on an island that had at some point been inhabited by the Imperial Japanese Army from which they eventually escape with their friends on a boat, both have [[TheArcher skill with a bow]], and both begin to [[BloodKnight revel in killing]]. Also, the nature of both of their first kills in a struggle is remarkably similar. Hilariously, Lara even bears a strong physical resemblance to Jason's girlfriend, Liza.

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** Lara can be seen as one to [[''VideoGame/FarCry3'' [[VideoGame/FarCry3 Jason Brody]]: Both end up trapped on an island that had at some point been inhabited by the Imperial Japanese Army from which they eventually escape with their friends on a boat, both have [[TheArcher skill with a bow]], and both begin to [[BloodKnight revel in killing]]. Also, the nature of both of their first kills in a struggle is remarkably similar. Hilariously, Lara even bears a strong physical resemblance to Jason's girlfriend, Liza.
11th May '18 12:36:22 PM CynicalBastardo
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* CounterpartComparison: Lara Croft has a lot in common with Oliver Queen from his incarnation in the television show {{Series/Arrow}}. Both are young and wealthy and end up accidentally shipwrecked on a mysterious island where it becomes clear that they aren't the only people left there. While originally inexperienced with fighting, both go on to learn numerous skills that come in handy. Lara's primary weapon is even a bow and Oliver Queen is the ComicBook/GreenArrow himself, of course. By the end, they both leave their respective islands changed emotionally and physically and with a purpose (Oliver to fix the corruption in his city, Lara to search for another adventure).

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Lara Croft has a lot in common with Oliver Queen from his incarnation in the television show {{Series/Arrow}}. Both are young and wealthy and end up accidentally shipwrecked on a mysterious island where it becomes clear that they aren't the only people left there. While originally inexperienced with fighting, both go on to learn numerous skills that come in handy. Lara's primary weapon is even a bow and Oliver Queen is the ComicBook/GreenArrow himself, of course. By the end, they both leave their respective islands changed emotionally and physically and with a purpose (Oliver to fix the corruption in his city, Lara to search for another adventure).adventure).
** Lara can be seen as one to [[''VideoGame/FarCry3'' Jason Brody]]: Both end up trapped on an island that had at some point been inhabited by the Imperial Japanese Army from which they eventually escape with their friends on a boat, both have [[TheArcher skill with a bow]], and both begin to [[BloodKnight revel in killing]]. Also, the nature of both of their first kills in a struggle is remarkably similar. Hilariously, Lara even bears a strong physical resemblance to Jason's girlfriend, Liza.
8th May '18 2:09:29 PM urutapu
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story puts its characters through so much suffering it gets difficult to care about what happens next. Lara's big motivation is to save her friends and get off the island, but between [[spoiler:''two'' aircraft crashing attempting to respond to their [=SOSes=]]] and the fact that said friends are underdeveloped and simply inoffensive as opposed to endearing ''and'' [[spoiler:drop like flies in {{Senseless Sacrifice}}s]], well...

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story puts its characters through so much suffering that it gets difficult to care about what happens next. Lara's big motivation is to save her friends and get off escape an island full of murderous cultists who live in absolutely disgusting conditions. That alone provides plenty of horror, but as the island, but between story wears on it becomes obvious that [[spoiler:unless Lara solves the island's deeper mysteries it will be literally impossible to leave]]. It takes a ''while'' for Lara to come to this realization, so on top of the constant attacks by the cultists, [[spoiler:''two'' aircraft crashing crash attempting to respond to their [=SOSes=]]] and the fact that said [=SOSes=]]]. And why should we care about Lara's friends are anyway? She goes to painful lengths to save them, but they're underdeveloped and simply inoffensive as opposed to endearing ''and'' [[spoiler:drop like flies in {{Senseless Sacrifice}}s]], well...Sacrifice}}s]].
30th Apr '18 8:29:37 AM urutapu
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story puts its characters through so much suffering it gets difficult to care about what happens next. Lara's big motivation is to save her friends and get off the island, but between [[spoiler:''two'' aircraft crashing attempting to respond to their [=SOSes=] and the fact that said friends are underdeveloped and simply inoffensive as opposed to endearing ''and'' drop like flies in {{Senseless Sacrifice}}s]], well...

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story puts its characters through so much suffering it gets difficult to care about what happens next. Lara's big motivation is to save her friends and get off the island, but between [[spoiler:''two'' aircraft crashing attempting to respond to their [=SOSes=] [=SOSes=]]] and the fact that said friends are underdeveloped and simply inoffensive as opposed to endearing ''and'' drop [[spoiler:drop like flies in {{Senseless Sacrifice}}s]], well...
30th Apr '18 8:28:53 AM urutapu
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The story puts its characters through so much suffering it gets difficult to care about what happens next. Lara's big motivation is to save her friends and get off the island, but between [[spoiler:''two'' aircraft crashing attempting to respond to their [=SOSes=] and the fact that said friends are underdeveloped and simply inoffensive as opposed to endearing ''and'' drop like flies in {{Senseless Sacrifice}}s]], well...



** To a lesser extent, Lara/Alex. His {{adorkable}} AmazonChaser tendencies endeared him to a certain section of the fan add.

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** To a lesser extent, Lara/Alex. His {{adorkable}} AmazonChaser tendencies endeared him to a certain section of the fan add.base.
27th Apr '18 9:16:09 PM Primis
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Some players - particularly fans of the classic, Core Design-era and / or Crystal Dynamics' earlier trilogy - act as though this is the first time that combat has ever been prominently featured in the series, and often accuse it of trying to copy ''VideoGame/{{Uncharted}}''.[[note]]Which is ironic, considering that ''Drake's Fortune'' itself often got accusations of trying to copy ''Tomb Raider''.[[/note]] The truth is that ''Tomb Raider'' has always had extensive set-pieces that consist of nothing but shooting continuously until everything except Lara is dead. In particular, ''VideoGame/TombRaiderII'', ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderIII III]]'', and ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld Underworld]]'' were all {{Actionized Sequel}}s. The only difference is that this game is the first time that the combat was properly developed and not a borderline ScrappyMechanic.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Some players - particularly fans of the classic, Core Design-era and / or Crystal Dynamics' earlier trilogy - act as though this is the first time that combat has ever been prominently featured in the series, and often accuse it of trying to copy ''VideoGame/{{Uncharted}}''.[[note]]Which is ironic, considering that ''Drake's Fortune'' itself often got accusations of trying to copy ''Tomb Raider''.[[/note]] The truth is that ''Tomb Raider'' has always had extensive set-pieces that consist of nothing but shooting continuously until everything except Lara is dead. In particular, ''VideoGame/TombRaiderII'', ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderIII III]]'', and ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld Underworld]]'' were all {{Actionized Sequel}}s.Sequel}}s, and they each got the same criticisms thrown at them that this game did. The only difference is that this game is the first time that the combat was properly developed and not a borderline ScrappyMechanic.
24th Apr '18 5:53:09 PM Primis
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** While the game has been mostly well-received, a ''lot'' of long-term series fans are extremely upset about it's extreme emphasis on action at the expense of the puzzles which made the previous games so popular in the first place.
** Then there's the rather lopsided split (roughly 80% of those who've played the game wish there were some way to either turn them into CutScenes or skip them outright) on the QuickTimeEvents.

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** While the game has been mostly well-received, a ''lot'' of long-term series fans are extremely upset about it's its extreme emphasis on action at the expense of the puzzles which made the previous games so popular in the first place.
** Then there's the rather lopsided split (roughly 80% of those who've played the game wish there were some way to either turn them into CutScenes or skip them outright) on the QuickTimeEvents.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: The older part of fandom openly disowned the game and by extension, the entire second reboot. The less radical fans still await for the series to finally ''be'' a Tomb Raider game, rather than a never-ending string of {{Origins Episode}}s. So far it's planned as a ''trilogy'', while originally only the 2013 game was supposed to be this.


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* OlderThanTheyThink: Some players - particularly fans of the classic, Core Design-era and / or Crystal Dynamics' earlier trilogy - act as though this is the first time that combat has ever been prominently featured in the series, and often accuse it of trying to copy ''VideoGame/{{Uncharted}}''.[[note]]Which is ironic, considering that ''Drake's Fortune'' itself often got accusations of trying to copy ''Tomb Raider''.[[/note]] The truth is that ''Tomb Raider'' has always had extensive set-pieces that consist of nothing but shooting continuously until everything except Lara is dead. In particular, ''VideoGame/TombRaiderII'', ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderIII III]]'', and ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld Underworld]]'' were all {{Actionized Sequel}}s. The only difference is that this game is the first time that the combat was properly developed and not a borderline ScrappyMechanic.
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