History YMMV / ToKillAMockingbird

4th Dec '16 6:01:35 PM SamuraiGal
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** Examined. The teacher Miss Caroline is quite displeased that Scout learned reading at a young age because it goes against the school system.

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** Examined. The teacher Miss Caroline is quite displeased that Scout learned reading at a young age because it goes against the school system. Nowadays she would be skipped ahead a few grades.
2nd Dec '16 12:12:32 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Robert E. Lee "Bob" Ewell]] personifies [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain all that was wrong with Dixie in the 1930s]]. For starters, he's a [[ParentalNeglect terrible, neglectful father]], to the point where the sheriff actually turns a blind eye to him hunting out of season out of pity for the little Ewells. He gets Tom Robinson, a disabled black man, arrested for supposedly raping and beating his daughter Mayella. Atticus Finch, the defense lawyer, shows that Tom was physically incapable of committing the crime, and that it was Bob who caught Mayella making advances on an unwilling Tom ,and [[AbusiveParents beat her himself]], with it being implied at one point that [[ParentalIncest Bob himself has been sexually abusing Mayella]]. Since the book takes place in the DeepSouth several decades before the Civil Rights movement, the all-white jury sentences Tom to death anyway. Even though Tom Robinson is dead, Bob tries to get revenge on those who opposed him at the trial, culminating in trying to [[WouldHurtAChild kill Atticus's children on their way home from a school play]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Robert E. Lee "Bob" Ewell]] personifies [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain all that was wrong with Dixie in the 1930s]]. For starters, he's a [[ParentalNeglect terrible, neglectful father]], to the point where the sheriff actually turns a blind eye to him hunting out of season out of pity for the little Ewells. He gets Tom Robinson, a disabled black man, arrested for supposedly raping and beating his daughter Mayella. Atticus Finch, the defense lawyer, shows that Tom was physically incapable of committing the crime, and that it was Bob who caught Mayella making advances on an unwilling Tom ,and Tom, and [[AbusiveParents beat her himself]], with it being implied at one point that [[ParentalIncest Bob himself has been sexually abusing Mayella]]. Since the book takes place in the DeepSouth several decades before the Civil Rights movement, the all-white jury sentences Tom to death anyway. Even though Tom Robinson is dead, Bob tries to get revenge on those who opposed him at the trial, culminating in trying to [[WouldHurtAChild kill Atticus's children on their way home from a school play]].



** It's hypocritical to defend one group from persecution and then persecute another, as shown when Scout is utterly confused when her teacher talks about how horrible Hitler is for his mistreatment of the Jews, but had cheered on [[spoiler:Tom Robinson's death sentence]] and then insulted the African American community at large. Further underlined when during her lecture on Hitler's persecution of the Jews, a student expresses confusion that he would do such a thing because "They're white, aren't they?" Also, she begins the lesson by pointing out the importance of "Equal rights for all, special rights for none."

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** It's hypocritical to defend one group from persecution and then persecute another, as shown when Scout is utterly confused when her teacher talks about how horrible Hitler [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]] is for his mistreatment of the Jews, but had cheered on [[spoiler:Tom Robinson's death sentence]] and then insulted the African American community at large. Further underlined when during her lecture on Hitler's persecution of the Jews, a student expresses confusion that he would do such a thing because "They're white, aren't they?" Also, she begins the lesson by pointing out the importance of "Equal rights for all, special rights for none."
23rd Oct '16 12:17:16 PM DebbieOppenheimer
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** Most {{Fanfic}} writers seem to have forgotten that Scout may be a tomboy, but she is also a church-going small-towner from pre-1950s Alabama -- many of the things that they have her do in fan fiction (especially HighSchoolAU) would give the real Scout a massive attack of the vapours.

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** Most {{Fanfic}} writers seem to have forgotten that Scout may be a tomboy, but she is also a church-going small-towner from pre-1950s Alabama -- many of the things that they have her do in fan fiction (especially HighSchoolAU) fanfic set when Scout is in high school) would give the real Scout a massive attack of the vapours.
11th Oct '16 2:19:48 PM SorPepita
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* NightmareFuel:
** [[spoiler:Bob Ewell trying to kill little children]].
** To Afro-Americans in that place and time, the framing and trial of Tom Robinson. Brock Peters' performance brings this starkly to light even to modern audiences who didn't live through that era.



* NightmareFuel:
** [[spoiler:Bob Ewell trying to kill little children]].
** To Afro-Americans in that place and time, the framing and trial of Tom Robinson. Brock Peters' performance brings this starkly to light even to modern audiences who didn't live through that era.
23rd Sep '16 12:14:07 PM SoapheadChurch
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** There are some subtle hints that Atticus Finch may have actually been a white supremacist. He notably admires Henry W. Grady, an advocate of the "New South" based on rejecting the traditions and economy of the antebellum South while maintaining the social inferiority of blacks. He also compares himself to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Thomas_Heflin "Cotton" Tom Heflin]], a leading proponent of white supremacy in the South who believed that "God Almighty intended the negro to be the servant of the white man." There are also those [[http://scholarlycommons.law.hofstra.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1223&context=faculty_scholarship (such as legal ethics expert Monroe Freedman)]] who take issue with indifference towards Maycomb's pervasive racism, callousness towards the conditions of Blacks in the county, and his KnightInSourArmor approach to defending Tom Robinson.

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** There are some subtle hints that Atticus Finch may have actually been a white supremacist. He notably admires Henry W. Grady, an advocate of the "New South" based on rejecting the traditions and economy of the antebellum South while maintaining the social inferiority of blacks. He also compares himself to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Thomas_Heflin "Cotton" Tom Heflin]], a leading proponent of white supremacy in the South who believed that "God Almighty intended the negro to be the servant of the white man." There are also those [[http://scholarlycommons.law.hofstra.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1223&context=faculty_scholarship (such as legal ethics expert Monroe Freedman)]] who take issue with his indifference towards Maycomb's pervasive racism, callousness towards the conditions of Blacks in the county, and his KnightInSourArmor approach to defending Tom Robinson.
18th Sep '16 8:26:59 AM SoapheadChurch
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** There are some subtle hints that Atticus Finch may have actually been a white supremacist. He notably admires Henry W. Grady, an advocate of the "New South" based on rejecting the traditions and economy of the antebellum South while maintaining the social inferiority of blacks. He also compares himself to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Thomas_Heflin "Cotton" Tom Heflin]], a leading proponent of white supremacy in the South who believed that "God Almighty intended the negro to be the servant of the white man." There are also those who take issue with his KnightInSourArmor approach to defending Tom Robinson, considering him to be ''far'' too accepting Maycomb's racist attitudes and almost callous towards the plight of Tom and his family.

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** There are some subtle hints that Atticus Finch may have actually been a white supremacist. He notably admires Henry W. Grady, an advocate of the "New South" based on rejecting the traditions and economy of the antebellum South while maintaining the social inferiority of blacks. He also compares himself to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Thomas_Heflin "Cotton" Tom Heflin]], a leading proponent of white supremacy in the South who believed that "God Almighty intended the negro to be the servant of the white man." There are also those [[http://scholarlycommons.law.hofstra.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1223&context=faculty_scholarship (such as legal ethics expert Monroe Freedman)]] who take issue with indifference towards Maycomb's pervasive racism, callousness towards the conditions of Blacks in the county, and his KnightInSourArmor approach to defending Tom Robinson, considering him to be ''far'' too accepting Maycomb's racist attitudes and almost callous towards the plight of Tom and his family.Robinson.


Added DiffLines:

** Theories abound about what exactly is wrong with Boo Radley. Is he mentally handicapped? Has he been traumatized by his treatment by the hands of his father and brother? Is he simply an eccentric with an antisocial personality?
** Aunt Alexandra is a prime target for this. There are many who take her attitude towards her brother and his children as a sign that she really doesn't like them one bit. The novel seems to suggest that she does truly care for them in her own way, but how convincingly it does so depends on the reader.
28th Aug '16 8:36:05 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Robert E. Lee "Bob" Ewell]] [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain personifies all that was wrong with Dixie in the 1930s]]. For starters, he's a [[ParentalNeglect terrible, neglectful father]], to the point where the sheriff actually turns a blind eye to him hunting out of season out of pity for the little Ewells. He gets Tom Robinson, a disabled black man, arrested for supposedly raping and beating his daughter Mayella. Atticus Finch, the defense lawyer, shows that Tom was physically incapable of committing the crime, and that it was Bob who caught Mayella making advances on an unwilling Tom ,and [[AbusiveParents beat her himself]], with it being implied at one point that [[ParentalIncest Bob himself has been sexually abusing Mayella]]. Since the book takes place in the DeepSouth several decades before the Civil Rights movement, the all-white jury sentences Tom to death anyway. Even though Tom Robinson is dead, Bob stays angry with Atticus for digging up the truth. As revenge, he [[WouldHurtAChild tries to kill Atticus's children on their way home from a school play]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Robert E. Lee "Bob" Ewell]] personifies [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain personifies all that was wrong with Dixie in the 1930s]]. For starters, he's a [[ParentalNeglect terrible, neglectful father]], to the point where the sheriff actually turns a blind eye to him hunting out of season out of pity for the little Ewells. He gets Tom Robinson, a disabled black man, arrested for supposedly raping and beating his daughter Mayella. Atticus Finch, the defense lawyer, shows that Tom was physically incapable of committing the crime, and that it was Bob who caught Mayella making advances on an unwilling Tom ,and [[AbusiveParents beat her himself]], with it being implied at one point that [[ParentalIncest Bob himself has been sexually abusing Mayella]]. Since the book takes place in the DeepSouth several decades before the Civil Rights movement, the all-white jury sentences Tom to death anyway. Even though Tom Robinson is dead, Bob stays angry with Atticus for digging up tries to get revenge on those who opposed him at the truth. As revenge, he trial, culminating in trying to [[WouldHurtAChild tries to kill Atticus's children on their way home from a school play]].
28th Aug '16 8:34:08 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Robert E. Lee "Bob" Ewell personifies all that was wrong with Dixie in the 1930s. For starters, he's a terrible, neglectful father, to the point where the sheriff actually turns a blind eye to him hunting out of season out of pity for the little Ewells. He gets Tom Robinson, a disabled black man, arrested for supposedly raping and beating his daughter Mayella. Atticus, the defense lawyer, shows that Tom was physically incapable of committing the crime, and that it was Bob who caught Mayella making advances on an unwilling Tom ,and [[AbusiveParents beat her himself]]. [[spoiler: Since the book takes place in the DeepSouth several decades before the Civil Rights movement, the all-white jury sentences Tom to death anyway. Bob Ewell still also tries to take revenge on those that ridiculed him during the trial, including Tom Robinson's widow, a poor woman with many children to feed and a job that doesn't pay well. He yells obscenities at her as she walks past his house on her way to work. When her boss finds out and threatens to have him arrested for it, Ewell then begins to ''stalk her as she goes to work''. When her boss again confronts him, Ewell claims that he couldn't be arrested because he never actually touched her. It's also implied at one point that [[ParentalIncest Bob himself has been sexually abusing Mayella]]. Even though Tom Robinson is dead, Bob stays angry with Atticus for digging up the truth. As revenge, he [[WouldHurtAChild tries to kill Atticus's children on their way home from a school play]].]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Robert E. Lee "Bob" Ewell Ewell]] [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain personifies all that was wrong with Dixie in the 1930s. 1930s]]. For starters, he's a [[ParentalNeglect terrible, neglectful father, father]], to the point where the sheriff actually turns a blind eye to him hunting out of season out of pity for the little Ewells. He gets Tom Robinson, a disabled black man, arrested for supposedly raping and beating his daughter Mayella. Atticus, Atticus Finch, the defense lawyer, shows that Tom was physically incapable of committing the crime, and that it was Bob who caught Mayella making advances on an unwilling Tom ,and [[AbusiveParents beat her himself]]. [[spoiler: himself]], with it being implied at one point that [[ParentalIncest Bob himself has been sexually abusing Mayella]]. Since the book takes place in the DeepSouth several decades before the Civil Rights movement, the all-white jury sentences Tom to death anyway. Bob Ewell still also tries to take revenge on those that ridiculed him during the trial, including Tom Robinson's widow, a poor woman with many children to feed and a job that doesn't pay well. He yells obscenities at her as she walks past his house on her way to work. When her boss finds out and threatens to have him arrested for it, Ewell then begins to ''stalk her as she goes to work''. When her boss again confronts him, Ewell claims that he couldn't be arrested because he never actually touched her. It's also implied at one point that [[ParentalIncest Bob himself has been sexually abusing Mayella]].anyway. Even though Tom Robinson is dead, Bob stays angry with Atticus for digging up the truth. As revenge, he [[WouldHurtAChild tries to kill Atticus's children on their way home from a school play]].]]
23rd Jul '16 12:21:20 PM SoapheadChurch
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** There are some subtle hints that Atticus Finch may have actually been a white supremacist. He notably admires Henry W. Grady, an advocate of the "New South" based on rejecting the traditions and economy of the antebellum South while maintaining the social inferiority of blacks. He also compares himself to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Thomas_Heflin "Cotton" Tom Heflin]], a leading proponent of white supremacy in the South who believed that "God Almighty intended the negro to be the servant of the white man." There are also those who take issue with his DeterminedDefeatist approach to defending Tom Robinson, considering him to be ''far'' too accepting Maycomb's racist attitudes and almost callous towards the plight of Tom and his family.

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** There are some subtle hints that Atticus Finch may have actually been a white supremacist. He notably admires Henry W. Grady, an advocate of the "New South" based on rejecting the traditions and economy of the antebellum South while maintaining the social inferiority of blacks. He also compares himself to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Thomas_Heflin "Cotton" Tom Heflin]], a leading proponent of white supremacy in the South who believed that "God Almighty intended the negro to be the servant of the white man." There are also those who take issue with his DeterminedDefeatist KnightInSourArmor approach to defending Tom Robinson, considering him to be ''far'' too accepting Maycomb's racist attitudes and almost callous towards the plight of Tom and his family.
23rd Jul '16 9:03:38 AM SoapheadChurch
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** There are some subtle hints that Atticus Finch may have actually been a white supremacist. He notably admires Henry W. Grady, an advocate of the "New South" based on rejecting the traditions and economy of the antebellum South while maintaining the social inferiority of blacks. He also compares himself to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Thomas_Heflin "Cotton" Tom Heflin]], a leading proponent of white supremacy in the South who believed that "God Almighty intended the negro to be the servant of the white man." There are also those who take issue with his DeterminedDefeatist approach to defending Tom Robinson, considering him to be ''far'' too accepting Maycomb's racist attitudes and almost callous towards the plight of Tom and his family.
** It is not uncommon to hear Dill's preference for hanging out with Jem interpreted as a childhood crush, and his ChildhoodMarriagePromise with Scout as his cover.



* MoralEventHorizon: It's hard to tell when Bob crossed this, from beating and raping his own daughter and falsely accusing an innocent man of it, to [[spoiler:trying to kill two kids]]. Bottom line, he crossed it at some point.

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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It's hard to tell when Bob crossed this, from beating and raping his own daughter and falsely accusing an innocent man of it, to [[spoiler:trying to kill two kids]]. Bottom line, he crossed it at some point.



* OneSceneWonder: Boo Radley, as played by Robert Duvall, in his first film appearance ever. He is onscreen for just a moment, and doesn't utter a single word the entire time, but manages to say everything he needed to only using his eyes.

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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
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Boo Radley, as played by Robert Duvall, in his first film appearance ever. He is onscreen for just a moment, and doesn't utter a single word the entire time, but manages to say everything he needed to only using his eyes.



* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler:Bob Ewell trying to kill little children]].

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* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
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[[spoiler:Bob Ewell trying to kill little children]].



** It's hypocritical to defend one group from persecution and then persecute another, as shown when Scout is utterly confused when her teacher talks about how horrible Hitler is for his mistreatment of the Jews, but had cheered on [[spoiler:Tom Robinson's death sentence]] and then insulted the African American community at large.
*** Further underlined when during her lecture on Hitler's persecution of the Jews, a student expresses confusion that he would do such a thing because "They're white, aren't they?" Also, she begins the lesson by pointing out the importance of "Equal rights for all, special rights for none."

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** It's hypocritical to defend one group from persecution and then persecute another, as shown when Scout is utterly confused when her teacher talks about how horrible Hitler is for his mistreatment of the Jews, but had cheered on [[spoiler:Tom Robinson's death sentence]] and then insulted the African American community at large.
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large. Further underlined when during her lecture on Hitler's persecution of the Jews, a student expresses confusion that he would do such a thing because "They're white, aren't they?" Also, she begins the lesson by pointing out the importance of "Equal rights for all, special rights for none."



* ToughActToFollow: Lee avoided this trope by never publishing another book, until 2015.
** She was often accused of not writing this one (especially since her "childhood friend" was a bestselling author in his own right). People who actually knew Truman Capote dismiss this tinfoil hatting by pointing out he would never have ''not'' taken credit for it.

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* ToughActToFollow: Lee avoided this trope by never publishing another book, until 2015.
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2015. She was often accused of not writing this one (especially since her "childhood friend" was a bestselling author in his own right). People who actually knew Truman Capote dismiss this tinfoil hatting by pointing out he would never have ''not'' taken credit for it.
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