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20th Mar '16 11:35:49 AM Allronix
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** Glitch is DG and Azkadelia's father. They both resemble him and the Queen was much closer to him than they ever show her being with Ahamo. There is a big portrait of him standing at her side, but none of her with Ahamo.

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** Glitch is DG and Azkadelia's father. They both resemble him and the Queen was much closer to him than they ever show her being with Ahamo. There is a big portrait of him standing at her side, but none of her with Ahamo. Or that Ahamo is DG's father, but Ambrose is Azkedellia's.
24th Feb '16 8:23:52 AM fearlessnikki
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Glitch is DG and Azkadelia's father. They both resemble him and the Queen was much closer to him than they ever show her being with Ahamo. There is a big portrait of him standing at her side, but none of her with Ahamo.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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Glitch is DG and Azkadelia's father. They both resemble him and the Queen was much closer to him than they ever show her being with Ahamo. There is a big portrait of him standing at her side, but none of her with Ahamo.Ahamo.
** Due to a remnant of the original story, DG and Cain's relationship is subject to this. It was originally an outright romance but anything too romantic was downplayed in the miniseries. So some view DG as a potential SecondLove for Cain once he gets over Adora's death. Others view her as a surrogate daughter for him.



* HilariousInHindsight: The failed pilot episode Series/LostInOz used some of the same ideas, particularly [[spoiler: the villain being possessed by the original Wicked Witch]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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The failed pilot episode Series/LostInOz used some of the same ideas, particularly [[spoiler: the villain being possessed by the original Wicked Witch]].Witch]].
** The real world house for DG is later used in ''Series/OnceUponATime'' as the Storybrooke home for the Wicked Witch of the West.
** The relationship between DG and Cain started out romantic and then became an IntergenerationalFriendship. When ''Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman'' came along, it was the opposite. The Huntsman was scripted to be a father figure to Snow White, before getting PromotedToLoveInterest.



* {{Narm}}: "My life is a lie!" Oh, DG...

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
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"My life is a lie!" Oh, DG...


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* NarmCharm: "You guys are out of your tiny minds" is silly but still also quite funny.
23rd Jun '15 1:49:27 AM HeraldAlberich
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Glitch is DG and Azkadellia's father. They both resemble him and the Queen was much closer to him than they ever show her being with Ahamo. There is a big portrait of him standing at her side, but none of her with Ahamo.
* TheChessmaster: The Queen herself comes up with the scheme to save DG and allow her time to grow up and eventually be able to face Azkadellia and get the emerald back and free Azkadellia.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Glitch is DG and Azkadellia's Azkadelia's father. They both resemble him and the Queen was much closer to him than they ever show her being with Ahamo. There is a big portrait of him standing at her side, but none of her with Ahamo.
* TheChessmaster: The Queen herself comes up with the scheme to save DG and allow her time to grow up and eventually be able to face Azkadellia Azkadelia and get the emerald back and free Azkadellia.Azkadelia.



* MagnificentBitch: Azkadellia. She overthrew her mother, tricked DG into leading her to the Emerald, defeated the Tin Men and almost succeeded in her plan to trap the OZ in eternal darkness. The only reason she didn't is because she had a HeelFaceTurn, not because the heroes defeated her.
** It runs in the family; while the queen is a more benevolent version of this trope, she counts with her plan to 'banish' Ahamo, hide DG and implant memories and codewords to make her come back at the right time, as well as hiding the Emerald.

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* MagnificentBitch: Azkadellia. Azkadelia. She overthrew overthrows her mother, tricked tricks DG into leading her to the Emerald, defeated defeats the Tin Men and almost succeeded succeeds in her plan to trap the OZ in eternal darkness. The only reason she didn't doesn't is because she had does a HeelFaceTurn, not because the heroes defeated defeat her.
** It runs in the family; while the queen is a more benevolent version of this trope, she counts with her plan to 'banish' "banish" Ahamo, hide DG and implant memories and codewords to make her come back at the right time, as well as hiding the Emerald.



** Everyone calls her DG. Everyone, all the time. Even her mother, in extreme times of crisis, only refers to her by initials. Because the incredibly obvious not so clever reference her name is would be ruined if they actually gave her a name. So in one of the films climactic scenes the queen can only say "Deeeeegeeeee!"

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** Everyone calls her DG. Everyone, all the time. Even her mother, in extreme times of crisis, only refers to her by initials. Because the incredibly obvious not so clever not-so-clever reference her name is would be ruined if they actually gave her a name. So in one of the films film's climactic scenes the queen can only say "Deeeeegeeeee!"



* RewatchBonus: [[spoiler:Knowing Azkadellia is possessed makes her conversations with the Queen and the Mystic Man take a new meaning.]]

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* RewatchBonus: [[spoiler:Knowing Azkadellia Azkadelia is possessed makes her conversations with the Queen and the Mystic Man take a new meaning.]]



** [[spoiler:Azkadellia who was possessed by an evil witch, and was then helpless to do anything as the witch then took over and killed everyone.]]

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** [[spoiler:Azkadellia [[spoiler:Azkadelia, who was possessed by an evil witch, and was then helpless to do anything as the witch then took over and killed everyone.]]
4th May '15 12:31:11 PM creepingdeath
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* TheChessmaster: The Queen herself comes up with the scheme to save DG and allow her time to grow up and eventually be able to face Azkadellia and get the emerald back and free Azkadellia.



** It runs in the family; while the queen is a more benevolent version of this trope, she counts with her plan to 'banish' Ahmaho, hide DG and implant memories and codewords to make her come back at the right time, as well as hiding the Emerald.

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** It runs in the family; while the queen is a more benevolent version of this trope, she counts with her plan to 'banish' Ahmaho, Ahamo, hide DG and implant memories and codewords to make her come back at the right time, as well as hiding the Emerald.
6th Apr '14 12:17:34 AM Eagal
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* CompleteMonster: Azkadellia while [[spoiler:possessed by the Evil Witch of the Dark often approaches this.]]
** Her [[TheDragon Dragon]], General Zero runs with the trope UpToEleven.
28th Jan '14 9:12:18 AM lalalei2001
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* MagnificentBitch: Azkadellia. She overthrew her mother, tricked DG into leading her to the Emerald, defeated the Tin Men and almost succeeded in her plan to trap the OZ in eternal darkness. The only reason she didn't is because she had a HeelFaceTurn, not because the heroes defeated her.
** It runs in the family; while the queen is a more benevolent version of this trope, she counts with her plan to 'banish' Ahmaho, hide DG and implant memories and codewords to make her come back at the right time, as well as hiding the Emerald.



* MagnificentBitch: Azkadellia. She overthrew her mother, tricked DG into leading her to the Emerald, defeated the Tin Men and almost succeeded in her plan to trap the OZ in eternal darkness. She only reason she didn't is because she had a HeelFaceTurn, not because the heroes defeated her.
28th Jan '14 8:42:18 AM creepingdeath
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Glitch is DG and Azkadellia's father. They both resemble him and the Queen was much closer to him than they ever show her being with Ahamo. There is a big portrait of him standing at her side, but none of her with Ahamo.
20th Sep '13 7:57:47 AM SirSapphire
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*** Wasn't DG her ''actual given'' name? Erm, yeah.
8th Jul '13 8:08:03 PM W43
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** [[spoiler: The ''first'' Wicked Witch]]. "You can let go, little girl..." *shudders*

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** [[spoiler: The ''first'' Wicked Witch]]. "You can let go, little girl..." *shudders* *shudders*
* RewatchBonus: [[spoiler:Knowing Azkadellia is possessed makes her conversations with the Queen and the Mystic Man take a new meaning.]]
8th Jul '13 1:37:54 AM W43
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* TheWoobie: Take your pick:
** Glitch, for having half his brain removed.
** Cain, for being in an AndIMustScream prison.
** [[spoiler:Azkadellia who was possessed by an evil witch, and was then helpless to do anything as the witch then took over and killed everyone.]]
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