History YMMV / TimBurton

16th Dec '16 11:23:55 AM NWolfman
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: For the most part, Burton's movie are tongue-in-cheek with their darkness. However, the few times he's allowed to go as dark as he likes (''Film/BatmanReturns'') or do straight-up horror (''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') are notoriously depressing.
* UglyCute: Most of his characters, as well as he himself.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: For the most part, Burton's movie are tongue-in-cheek with their darkness. However, the few times he's allowed to go as dark as he likes (''Film/BatmanReturns'') or do straight-up horror (''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') are notoriously depressing.
borderline nihilistic.
* UglyCute: Most of his characters, as well as he himself.characters. The guy himself counts.
9th Nov '16 3:19:06 PM NWolfman
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: For the most part, Burton's movie are tongue-in-cheek with their darkness, less horror and more oddball darkness. However, the few times he's allowed to go as dark as he likes (''Film/BatmanReturns'', ''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') are notoriously depressing.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: For the most part, Burton's movie are tongue-in-cheek with their darkness, less horror and more oddball darkness. However, the few times he's allowed to go as dark as he likes (''Film/BatmanReturns'', ''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') (''Film/BatmanReturns'') or do straight-up horror (''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') are notoriously depressing.
9th Nov '16 3:18:26 PM NWolfman
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: For the most part, Burton's movie are tongue-in-cheek with their darkness, less horror and more oddball darkness. However, the few times he's allowed to go as dark as he likes (''Film/BatmanReturns'', ''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') are notoriously depressing.
15th Oct '16 10:53:11 PM Anddrix
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* UnfortunateImplications: His lack of non-white actors in his films earned him some criticism for most of his career, but it was his full-blown RaceLift in his adaptation of ''Literature/MissPeregrinesHomeForPeculiarChildren'', not to mention his defense that it had always been done on purpose, that labeled him a pro-segregationist.
15th Oct '16 10:51:53 PM NWolfman
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* HarsherInHindsight: The lack of people of color in his films becomes this when he revealed in 2016 that this was intentional, and that he harbors racist, quasi-segregationist beliefs.


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* UnfortunateImplications: His lack of non-white actors in his films earned him some criticism for most of his career, but it was his full-blown RaceLift in his adaptation of ''Literature/MissPeregrinesHomeForPeculiarChildren'', not to mention his defense that it had always been done on purpose, that labeled him a pro-segregationist.
12th Oct '16 9:37:31 PM NWolfman
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* FriendlyFandoms: Burton fans tend to get along well with Creator/JhonenVasquez fans for their similarly dark, {{Goth}}y aesthetic (though Vasquez hates being called "goth").
7th Oct '16 6:03:00 PM Da1tonTheGreat
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* HarsherInHindsight: The lack of people of color in his films becomes this when he revealed in 2016 that this was intentional, and that he harbors racist, quasi-segregationist beliefs.
7th Sep '16 10:24:34 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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** For some, his relationship collapse with Helena Bonham Carter, especially considering how close they both were. Whether this affects their collaboration in films together is unknown.
7th Sep '16 10:06:14 AM 8BrickMario
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* CreepyAwesome: Pretty much all of his designs and concepts are twisted and strange, yet they have an undeniable charm.
15th Apr '16 7:41:50 AM Anddrix
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* HypeBacklash: Few directors are as blatant and consistent with their SignatureStyle and AuthorAppeal, so if his aesthetic isn't what you're looking for, you ''will'' experience this -- especially with the films that are adaptations. The heavy merchandising his films have gained over the years doesn't help, nor does his association with the {{Goth}} and EmoTeen subcultures.
** The HypeBacklash is so bad, there are people saying that they won't even see the movies merely ''because'' it's being marketed at Hot Topic.
*** You just ''know'' this is going to double back into [[CriticalBacklash that other trope]] one of these days.
* TheRival: A one-sided one with Creator/KevinSmith, with Smith being the one side. The two butted heads on the failed ComicBook/{{Superman}} reboot ''Superman Lives'', which Burton was to direct and Smith to write. A few years later, Smith half-jokingly claimed that Burton's ending of his ''Literature/PlanetOfTheApes'' remake stole a gag from one of his [[ExpandedUniverse expanded Askewniverse]] comics, to which Burton gave the uncharacteristically nasty response of "I would never read anything written by Kevin Smith." [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Smith would later use this quote on the back of his autobiography]].

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* HypeBacklash: Few directors are as blatant and consistent with their SignatureStyle and AuthorAppeal, so if his aesthetic isn't what you're looking for, you ''will'' experience this -- especially with the films that are adaptations. The heavy merchandising his films have gained over the years doesn't help, nor does his association with the {{Goth}} and EmoTeen subcultures.
** The HypeBacklash is
subcultures. This has gotten so bad, there are people saying that they won't even see the movies merely ''because'' it's being marketed at Hot Topic.
*** You just ''know'' this is going to double back into [[CriticalBacklash that other trope]] one of these days.
* TheRival: A one-sided one with Creator/KevinSmith, with Smith being the one side. The two butted heads on the failed ComicBook/{{Superman}} reboot ''Superman Lives'', which Burton was to direct and Smith to write. A few years later, Smith half-jokingly claimed that Burton's ending of his ''Literature/PlanetOfTheApes'' remake stole a gag from one of his [[ExpandedUniverse expanded Askewniverse]] comics, to which Burton gave the uncharacteristically nasty response of "I would never read anything written by Kevin Smith." [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Smith would later use this quote on the back of his autobiography]].
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* OldShame: One of his first films, his adaptation of ''Literature/HanselAndGretel'', is something that he is ashamed of. Considering the choices made for the film (arms grabbing sleeping children, a creepy gingerbread man trying to force a child to eat him), it's pretty understandable.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Considering that "[[PersonAsNoun Burtonesque]]" has now become a filmmaking term, it's impossible to imagine a time when his quirky gothic style was considered personally his.

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Considering that "[[PersonAsNoun Burtonesque]]" has now become a filmmaking term, it's impossible to imagine a time when his quirky gothic style was considered personally his.



* TearJerker: ''Edward Scissorhands'', ''Big Fish'', ''Corpse Bride'', ''Sweeney Todd''.

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''Edward Scissorhands'', ''Big Fish'', ''Corpse Bride'', ''Sweeney Todd''.
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