History YMMV / TimBurton

9th Nov '16 3:19:06 PM NWolfman
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: For the most part, Burton's movie are tongue-in-cheek with their darkness, less horror and more oddball darkness. However, the few times he's allowed to go as dark as he likes (''Film/BatmanReturns'', ''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') are notoriously depressing.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: For the most part, Burton's movie are tongue-in-cheek with their darkness, less horror and more oddball darkness. However, the few times he's allowed to go as dark as he likes (''Film/BatmanReturns'', ''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') (''Film/BatmanReturns'') or do straight-up horror (''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') are notoriously depressing.
9th Nov '16 3:18:26 PM NWolfman
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: For the most part, Burton's movie are tongue-in-cheek with their darkness, less horror and more oddball darkness. However, the few times he's allowed to go as dark as he likes (''Film/BatmanReturns'', ''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'') are notoriously depressing.
15th Oct '16 10:53:11 PM Anddrix
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* UnfortunateImplications: His lack of non-white actors in his films earned him some criticism for most of his career, but it was his full-blown RaceLift in his adaptation of ''Literature/MissPeregrinesHomeForPeculiarChildren'', not to mention his defense that it had always been done on purpose, that labeled him a pro-segregationist.
15th Oct '16 10:51:53 PM NWolfman
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* HarsherInHindsight: The lack of people of color in his films becomes this when he revealed in 2016 that this was intentional, and that he harbors racist, quasi-segregationist beliefs.


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* UnfortunateImplications: His lack of non-white actors in his films earned him some criticism for most of his career, but it was his full-blown RaceLift in his adaptation of ''Literature/MissPeregrinesHomeForPeculiarChildren'', not to mention his defense that it had always been done on purpose, that labeled him a pro-segregationist.
12th Oct '16 9:37:31 PM NWolfman
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* FriendlyFandoms: Burton fans tend to get along well with Creator/JhonenVasquez fans for their similarly dark, {{Goth}}y aesthetic (though Vasquez hates being called "goth").
7th Oct '16 6:03:00 PM Da1tonTheGreat
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* HarsherInHindsight: The lack of people of color in his films becomes this when he revealed in 2016 that this was intentional, and that he harbors racist, quasi-segregationist beliefs.
7th Sep '16 10:24:34 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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** For some, his relationship collapse with Helena Bonham Carter, especially considering how close they both were. Whether this affects their collaboration in films together is unknown.
7th Sep '16 10:06:14 AM 8BrickMario
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* CreepyAwesome: Pretty much all of his designs and concepts are twisted and strange, yet they have an undeniable charm.
15th Apr '16 7:41:50 AM Anddrix
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* HypeBacklash: Few directors are as blatant and consistent with their SignatureStyle and AuthorAppeal, so if his aesthetic isn't what you're looking for, you ''will'' experience this -- especially with the films that are adaptations. The heavy merchandising his films have gained over the years doesn't help, nor does his association with the {{Goth}} and EmoTeen subcultures.
** The HypeBacklash is so bad, there are people saying that they won't even see the movies merely ''because'' it's being marketed at Hot Topic.
*** You just ''know'' this is going to double back into [[CriticalBacklash that other trope]] one of these days.
* TheRival: A one-sided one with Creator/KevinSmith, with Smith being the one side. The two butted heads on the failed ComicBook/{{Superman}} reboot ''Superman Lives'', which Burton was to direct and Smith to write. A few years later, Smith half-jokingly claimed that Burton's ending of his ''Literature/PlanetOfTheApes'' remake stole a gag from one of his [[ExpandedUniverse expanded Askewniverse]] comics, to which Burton gave the uncharacteristically nasty response of "I would never read anything written by Kevin Smith." [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Smith would later use this quote on the back of his autobiography]].

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* HypeBacklash: Few directors are as blatant and consistent with their SignatureStyle and AuthorAppeal, so if his aesthetic isn't what you're looking for, you ''will'' experience this -- especially with the films that are adaptations. The heavy merchandising his films have gained over the years doesn't help, nor does his association with the {{Goth}} and EmoTeen subcultures.
** The HypeBacklash is
subcultures. This has gotten so bad, there are people saying that they won't even see the movies merely ''because'' it's being marketed at Hot Topic.
*** You just ''know'' this is going to double back into [[CriticalBacklash that other trope]] one of these days.
* TheRival: A one-sided one with Creator/KevinSmith, with Smith being the one side. The two butted heads on the failed ComicBook/{{Superman}} reboot ''Superman Lives'', which Burton was to direct and Smith to write. A few years later, Smith half-jokingly claimed that Burton's ending of his ''Literature/PlanetOfTheApes'' remake stole a gag from one of his [[ExpandedUniverse expanded Askewniverse]] comics, to which Burton gave the uncharacteristically nasty response of "I would never read anything written by Kevin Smith." [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Smith would later use this quote on the back of his autobiography]].
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* OldShame: One of his first films, his adaptation of ''Literature/HanselAndGretel'', is something that he is ashamed of. Considering the choices made for the film (arms grabbing sleeping children, a creepy gingerbread man trying to force a child to eat him), it's pretty understandable.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Considering that "[[PersonAsNoun Burtonesque]]" has now become a filmmaking term, it's impossible to imagine a time when his quirky gothic style was considered personally his.

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Considering that "[[PersonAsNoun Burtonesque]]" has now become a filmmaking term, it's impossible to imagine a time when his quirky gothic style was considered personally his.



* TearJerker: ''Edward Scissorhands'', ''Big Fish'', ''Corpse Bride'', ''Sweeney Todd''.

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''Edward Scissorhands'', ''Big Fish'', ''Corpse Bride'', ''Sweeney Todd''.
15th Apr '16 7:36:16 AM igordebraga
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* CriticalDissonance: Goes both ways. His highest-grossing movie is the divisive ''Alice in Wonderland'', while his only box office failure (even ''Big Eyes'' earned its budget back) was AcclaimedFlop ''Ed Wood''.



* ScapegoatCreator: Being a director, almost all of the movies he directed were apparently produced, directed, written, created, etc by only ''one'' person: Tim Burton. The only thing he apparently ''didn't'' do for the movies was act in them. The most recent backlash was about the recent Alice in Wonderland, which was apparently written by him despite that even looking at the credits or its page on TheOtherWiki can tell you otherwise.

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* ScapegoatCreator: Being a director, almost all of the movies he directed were apparently produced, directed, written, created, etc by only ''one'' person: Tim Burton. The only thing he apparently ''didn't'' do for the movies was act in them. The most recent backlash was about the recent Alice ''Alice in Wonderland, Wonderland'', which was apparently written by him despite that even looking at the credits or its page on TheOtherWiki can tell you otherwise.



** It's so tough to appreciate his take on Film/{{Batman}} in light of Creator/ChristopherNolan's ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.

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** It's so tough to appreciate his take on Film/{{Batman}} ''Film/{{Batman}}'' in light of Creator/ChristopherNolan's ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.
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