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* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes backfires horribly?
** You put her there because it's her plan and "no plan survives contact with the enemy," so have her be there to hopefully deal with every ''contingency''. Keep her there because, despite her failures, she's still the main reason things aren't even worse – especially when failures come down to things out of their hands, like lack of manpower or resources, or getting strong-armed from above.
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** It should be noted that bugging the homes of his team-members is actually following Threshold protocol, ''everyone'' violates civil rights, and shooting the television saved the lives of his teammates.
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* WholePlotReference: UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any information, are portrayed with their full moral ambiguity.

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* WholePlotReference: UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any information, are portrayed with their full moral ambiguity.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In the pilot, Caffrey's contingency planning speech includes her saying the world needs to prepare for a global pandemic of a SARS-like virus. Turns out [[UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic she was right]].
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* TooGoodToLast: Good cast, solid writing and performances, avoidance of all the pitfalls of its contemporaries... and cancelled while still on air, after continous meddling to not air the show in the first place.
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* CultClassic: Came out with the crowd of the post-''Series/{{Lost}}'' "mystery box" series and due to reasons, picked up a very strong following among [[InvisibleAdvertising the handful of people that knew it existed]]. It's one of the few TV shows from that era that maintains any sort of following to this day.
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* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any information, are portrayed with their full moral ambiguity.

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* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any information, are portrayed with their full moral ambiguity.

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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].

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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].[[WMG: '''Series''']]


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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].
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* RetroactiveRecognition: It's [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]] as a CunningLinguist!
** Even more amusingly, Ramsey and Tyrion are both similar in personalities, especially in their favorite pastimes.
** It seems that [[Series/{{Supernatural}} Chuck Shurley]] is apparently an aerospace engineer in his spare time away from being, you know, ''God''.
** So apparently [[Series/{{Heroes}} Ted Sprague]] lived in the 19th century and fought aliens... cool.

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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. In the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.
** It should be noted that bugging the homes of his team-members is actually following Threshold protocol, ''everyone'' violates civil rights, and shooting the television saved the lives of his teammates.
* FridgeLogic: What exactly was the threat of the North Koreans in the pilot? The US team was already on the scene and securing the vessel? Not to mentioned the reason to destroy the vessel was to stop it falling into their hands? How? It was a US vessel, with US military personnel onboard... to do so would have been an unprovocated ''act of war''.

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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].
* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. In the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties liberties, and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.
** It should be noted that bugging the homes of his team-members is actually following Threshold protocol, ''everyone'' violates civil rights, and shooting the television saved the lives of his teammates.
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* FridgeLogic: What exactly was the threat of the North Koreans in the pilot? The US team was already on the scene and securing the vessel? Not to mentioned the reason to destroy the vessel was to stop it falling into their hands? How? It was a US vessel, with US military personnel onboard... to do so would have been an unprovocated unprovoked ''act of war''.



* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''Film/RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.
* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes back-fires horribly?
** You put her there because it's her plan and "no plan survives contact with the enemy," so have her be there to hopefully deal with every ''contingency''. Keep her there because, despite her failures, she's still the main reason things aren't even worse - especially when failures come down to things out of their hands, like lack of manpower or resources, or getting strong-armed from above.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''Film/RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Dr. Caffrey.
* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes back-fires backfires horribly?
** You put her there because it's her plan and "no plan survives contact with the enemy," so have her be there to hopefully deal with every ''contingency''. Keep her there because, despite her failures, she's still the main reason things aren't even worse - especially when failures come down to things out of their hands, like lack of manpower or resources, or getting strong-armed from above.



* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, are potrayed with their full moral ambiguity.
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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].

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* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, information, are potrayed portrayed with their full moral ambiguity.
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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].
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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by WebSite/SFDebris, in the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.

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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by WebSite/SFDebris, in In the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.
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* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, are potrayed with their full moral ambiguity.

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* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, are potrayed with their full moral ambiguity.ambiguity.
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*CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].
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* NightmareFuel: A zombified child speaking taunts from the BigBad to his dead father? More than a little creepy!

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* NightmareFuel: A zombified child speaking taunts from the BigBad to his dead father? More than a little creepy!creepy!
* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, are potrayed with their full moral ambiguity.
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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by SFDebris, in the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.

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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by SFDebris, WebSite/SFDebris, in the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.
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* HilariousInHindsight: CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.

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* HilariousInHindsight: CarlaGugino Creator/CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''RaceToWitchMountain'', ''Film/RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.
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** You put her there because it's her plan and "no plan survives contact with the enemy," so have her be there to hopefully deal with every ''contingency''. Keep her there because, despite her failures, she's still the main reason things aren't even worse - especially when failures come down to things out of their hands, like lack of manpower or resources, or getting strong-armed from above.
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** And they explicitly said it was a ''Kilo''-class sub. An American ''Los Angeles'' class would consider a ''Kilo'' target practice.
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** For that matter, what in the name of Kim Il-Sung was a North Korean submarine doing in the North Atlantic?
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* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes back-fires horribly?

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* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes back-fires horribly?horribly?
* NightmareFuel: A zombified child speaking taunts from the BigBad to his dead father? More than a little creepy!
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* HilariousInHindsight: CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a MenInBlack-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.

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* HilariousInHindsight: CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a MenInBlack-type [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.
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** It should be noted that bugging the homes of his team-members is actually following Threshold protocol, ''everyone'' violates civil rights, and shooting the television saved the lives of his teammates.
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* HilariousInHindsight: CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as an {{MIB}}-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.

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* HilariousInHindsight: CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as an {{MIB}}-type a MenInBlack-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.
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* FridgeLogic: What exactly was the threat of the North Koreans in the pilot? The US team was already on the scene and securing the vessel? Not to mentioned the reason to destroy the vessel was to stop it falling into their hands? How? It was a US vessel, with US military personnel onboard... to do so would have been an unprovocated ''act of war''.
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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by SFDebris, in the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.

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