History YMMV / Threshold

28th Jul '17 8:08:41 AM MCanter89
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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. In the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.
** It should be noted that bugging the homes of his team-members is actually following Threshold protocol, ''everyone'' violates civil rights, and shooting the television saved the lives of his teammates.
* FridgeLogic: What exactly was the threat of the North Koreans in the pilot? The US team was already on the scene and securing the vessel? Not to mentioned the reason to destroy the vessel was to stop it falling into their hands? How? It was a US vessel, with US military personnel onboard... to do so would have been an unprovocated ''act of war''.

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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].
* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. In the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties liberties, and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.
** It should be noted that bugging the homes of his team-members is actually following Threshold protocol, ''everyone'' violates civil rights, and shooting the television saved the lives of his teammates.
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* FridgeLogic: What exactly was the threat of the North Koreans in the pilot? The US team was already on the scene and securing the vessel? Not to mentioned the reason to destroy the vessel was to stop it falling into their hands? How? It was a US vessel, with US military personnel onboard... to do so would have been an unprovocated unprovoked ''act of war''.



* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''Film/RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.
* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes back-fires horribly?
** You put her there because it's her plan and "no plan survives contact with the enemy," so have her be there to hopefully deal with every ''contingency''. Keep her there because, despite her failures, she's still the main reason things aren't even worse - especially when failures come down to things out of their hands, like lack of manpower or resources, or getting strong-armed from above.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''Film/RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Dr. Caffrey.
* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes back-fires backfires horribly?
** You put her there because it's her plan and "no plan survives contact with the enemy," so have her be there to hopefully deal with every ''contingency''. Keep her there because, despite her failures, she's still the main reason things aren't even worse - especially when failures come down to things out of their hands, like lack of manpower or resources, or getting strong-armed from above.



* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, are potrayed with their full moral ambiguity.
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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].

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* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, information, are potrayed portrayed with their full moral ambiguity.
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* CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].
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24th Feb '17 7:56:22 AM Anddrix
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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by WebSite/SFDebris, in the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.

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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by WebSite/SFDebris, in In the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.
16th Jan '17 11:13:24 AM ACW
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* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, are potrayed with their full moral ambiguity.

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* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, are potrayed with their full moral ambiguity.ambiguity.
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*CompleteMonster: Nzame is an EldritchAbomination from beyond our world. Finding a way into our world, he turns the portal into an EldritchLocation and murders several people working on this portal in increasingly horrific ways. He uses this portal in the form of a pyramid to breach into the human world and {{mind rape}}s the population of Threshold into worshiping him. Once they do, he transforms them into [[TakenForGranite stone golems]] in [[AndIMustScream constant pain]]. When the protagonists rise to oppose him, he attacks them through their dreams, threatening bodily harm to them and their loved ones. He pays special focus to the heroine, Tirzah, threatening to possess her unborn child and leave her husband trapped in an EldritchLocation. Twisted and cruel, Nzame does not care for anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe himself and power]].
9th Nov '16 11:58:50 AM Pysiewicz
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* NightmareFuel: A zombified child speaking taunts from the BigBad to his dead father? More than a little creepy!

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* NightmareFuel: A zombified child speaking taunts from the BigBad to his dead father? More than a little creepy!creepy!
* WholePlotReference: TheWarOnTerror [[RecycledInSpace with alien invasion]]! All the shady moves Threshold does, especially the indefinite detention without court or any infromation, are potrayed with their full moral ambiguity.
18th Dec '15 10:04:39 PM nombretomado
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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by SFDebris, in the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.

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* DesignatedHero: Cavanaugh. As noted by SFDebris, WebSite/SFDebris, in the pilot alone, he bugs the homes of his fellow team-members without permission, has the team implanted with tracking devices, routinely roughs up anyone who questions why he is violating their civil liberties and uses his firearm as both a lockpick and television remote.
27th Jul '14 4:11:48 PM Morgenthaler
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* HilariousInHindsight: CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.

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* HilariousInHindsight: CarlaGugino Creator/CarlaGugino would go on to play a UFO researcher in ''RaceToWitchMountain'', ''Film/RaceToWitchMountain'', which also stars Ciaran Hinds as a [[TheMenInBlack MIB]]-type character akin to Dr Caffrey.
11th Mar '14 6:35:19 PM Nerrin
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** You put her there because it's her plan and "no plan survives contact with the enemy," so have her be there to hopefully deal with every ''contingency''. Keep her there because, despite her failures, she's still the main reason things aren't even worse - especially when failures come down to things out of their hands, like lack of manpower or resources, or getting strong-armed from above.
12th Jun '13 8:29:19 PM Meshakhad
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** And they explicitly said it was a ''Kilo''-class sub. An American ''Los Angeles'' class would consider a ''Kilo'' target practice.
24th Feb '13 11:01:15 PM Meshakhad
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** For that matter, what in the name of Kim Il-Sung was a North Korean submarine doing in the North Atlantic?
21st Jun '12 6:22:38 AM Sheora
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* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes back-fires horribly?

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* IdiotPlot: Why would you put a contingency planner on direct control? Why would you leave her there when every single decision she makes back-fires horribly?horribly?
* NightmareFuel: A zombified child speaking taunts from the BigBad to his dead father? More than a little creepy!
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