History YMMV / ThorTheDarkWorld

2nd Feb '18 9:36:22 AM Hjortron18
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Loki strikes again, as [[spoiler:his fangirls are quite upset that he didn't pull a HeelFaceTurn.]]

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Loki strikes again, as [[spoiler:his fangirls are quite upset that he didn't pull a lasting HeelFaceTurn.]]
2nd Feb '18 9:35:09 AM Hjortron18
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*** [[spoiler:Usurping the throne. Did he merely use his presumed death to his advantage to catch Odin off-guard; or did he manipulate everyone from Kurse to Thor in a plot to usurp the throne, intentionally setting up Frigga's death knowing Thor and Odin would react to it in the way that they did? Or was it somewhere in between: did he manipulate events expecting it would be ''Odin'' who died defending the Aether rather than Frigga, but still go through with his planned usurpation once she was avenged?]]

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*** [[spoiler:Usurping the throne. Did he merely use his presumed death to his advantage to catch Odin off-guard; or did he manipulate everyone from Kurse to Thor in a plot to usurp the throne, intentionally setting up Frigga's death knowing Thor and Odin would react to it in the way that they did? Or was it somewhere in between: did he manipulate events expecting it would be ''Odin'' who died defending the Aether rather than Frigga, but still go and went through with his planned usurpation once she was avenged?]]



* DracoInLeatherPants: Loki strikes again, as [[spoiler:his fangirls are quite upset that he didn't pull a HeelFaceTurn, as if that was ever a possibility]].

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Loki strikes again, as [[spoiler:his fangirls are quite upset that he didn't pull a HeelFaceTurn, as if that was ever a possibility]].HeelFaceTurn.]]
28th Jan '18 4:00:25 PM RoninMacbeth
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** Malekith (and the Dark Elves in general) could have been used as further exploration of whether or not Odin and Asgard are in the right, and the fact that the Dark Elves are a DyingRace could have made for a sympathetic group of antagonists[[note]]According to Christopher Eccleston, deleted scenes would have shown that Malekith had lost family due to the light.[[/note]]. Unfortunately, he turned out to be a GenericDoomsdayVillain.
24th Jan '18 9:45:19 AM Hjortron18
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** ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' reveals that far in the past Odin was once [[spoiler:a ruthless imperialist who waged numerous wars of conquest across the galaxy to expand the Asgardian empire across the Nine Realms, rather than the benevolent protector of the peace he currently acts as.]] With this knowledge in mind the scene where Odin declares war on the Dark Elves after [[spoiler:Frigga's death takes upon a darker meaning. It's not just the outburst as a grieving husband, but a return to his former violent ways.]]

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** ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' reveals that far in the past Odin was once [[spoiler:a ruthless imperialist who waged numerous wars of conquest across the galaxy to expand the Asgardian empire across the Nine Realms, rather than the benevolent protector of the peace he currently acts as.]] With this knowledge in mind the scene where Odin declares war on the Dark Elves after [[spoiler:Frigga's death takes upon a darker meaning. It's not just the outburst as a grieving husband, but a return to his former violent ways. Also, Loki has no idea how right he is when he states that the people he killed in ''Avengers'' are "a mere handful compared to the number Odin has taken himself".]]
6th Dec '17 4:51:19 AM JVM
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* ContestedSequel: Fans are heavily divided between whether this or the first one is the better Thor film, in contrast to other MCU series where there's usually one obvious favorite entry.

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* ContestedSequel: Fans are were heavily divided between whether this or the first one is the better Thor film, in contrast to other MCU series where there's usually one obvious favorite entry.entry.
** By the release of the third film, this was openly acknowledged. Much of the marketing campaign around the third film sought to desperately distance itself from the previous films. Within the film itself, many of the supporting characters are discarded, with [[spoiler:Odin and the Warriors Three being killed off early on]], Jane's research team being excluded entirely, and Sif being reduced to a nod. Even the positive reviews for the film mostly defined it as better than its predecessors. All of this has cemented the previous films as contested entries in the MCU.


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* VindicatedByHistory: While the film received criticism for a great deal of reasons, some valid, many reviewers were highly critical of some of the more comedic moments, particularly with Jane's research team, with many seeing them as comic relief of limited necessity to the plot. The film was followed by ''Film/ThorRagnarok'', which was widely praised for its much more comedic and light-hearted tone compared to this film. The film itself isn't vindicated, but one aspect was, at least.
25th Nov '17 4:29:00 PM AFreakyDude
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* CompleteMonster: In the [[VideoGame/ThorTheDarkWorld video game]], [[BigBad Malekith the Accursed]], the leader of the Dark Elves and the root of all evil in the game, differs from the version seen in the film. Desiring to return the universe to the "darkness" that existed before life sprouted throughout the cosmos, Malekith begins collecting powerful Uru weapons to use in a ritual to fulfill his desire. Sending his minions throughout the Nine Realms, Malekith has innocents killed, monstrous creatures released, and entire villages razed to the ground, all in various attempts to distract Thor from stopping him. With no loyalty to his "partners", as seen when he betrayed and attempted to murder both the Frost Giants and the God of Mischief, Loki, when [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness they outlived their usefulness]], Malekith [[AGodAmI proclaims himself a god]] before trying to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out all life in the universe]], so as to make the Dark Elves the reigning power once again, with himself as ruler supreme.
13th Nov '17 1:21:01 AM AlleyOop
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*** Much like the last film; is Odin really a [[TheGoodKing wise and just king]] who simply suffers from a HotBlooded streak and tendency [[DidNotThinkThisThrough to make rash decisions]] similar to his son, or a SmugSuper who's content to lord Asgardian superiority over the other Nine Realms with a MightMakesRight attitude? Lampshaded twice by Loki, who points out that his own failed attempt to rule the PunyEarthlings on Earth as a God was absolutely ''no'' different than what Odin did, with the death-toll being ([[UnreliableExpositor supposedly]]) far ''less'' in comparison.

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*** Much like the last film; is Odin really a [[TheGoodKing wise and just king]] who simply suffers from a HotBlooded streak and tendency [[DidNotThinkThisThrough to make rash decisions]] similar to his son, or a SmugSuper who's content to lord Asgardian superiority over the other Nine Realms with a MightMakesRight attitude? Lampshaded twice by Loki, who points out that his own failed attempt to rule the PunyEarthlings on Earth as a God was absolutely ''no'' different than what Odin did, with the death-toll being ([[UnreliableExpositor supposedly]]) far ''less'' in comparison. ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' reveals that [[spoiler:Loki actually isn't too far off the mark, as unbeknownst to even him, Odin was once a vicious conqueror in his own right.]]



* HarsherInHindsight: Sif promises Loki that if he betrays Thor, she'll kill him. We see her twice in ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', and both times [[spoiler:she is following Loki's orders without knowing it.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Sif promises Loki that if he betrays Thor, she'll kill him. We see her twice in ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', and both times [[spoiler:she is following Loki's orders without knowing it.]]]]
** ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' reveals that far in the past Odin was once [[spoiler:a ruthless imperialist who waged numerous wars of conquest across the galaxy to expand the Asgardian empire across the Nine Realms, rather than the benevolent protector of the peace he currently acts as.]] With this knowledge in mind the scene where Odin declares war on the Dark Elves after [[spoiler:Frigga's death takes upon a darker meaning. It's not just the outburst as a grieving husband, but a return to his former violent ways.]]
11th Nov '17 4:31:43 AM Hjortron18
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* TooKinkyToTorture: The smile Loki gives to Jane when she punches him, and to Sif when she threatens him with a blade held to his throat, seems to imply that being mishandled by a lovely lady is the opposite of a problem for him.
7th Nov '17 10:35:09 AM mikke
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* TooKinkyToTorture: The smile Loki gives to Jane when she punches him, and to Sif when she threatens him with a blade held to his throat, seems to imply that being mishandled by a lovely lady is the opposite of a problem for him.
13th Oct '17 10:34:09 AM darkpit06
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* FanficFuel: Malekith the Accursed's backstory and motives. He isn't just a run-of-the-mill FlatCharacter, after all!
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