History YMMV / ThorTheDarkWorld

8th Jan '16 10:45:15 PM ANewMan
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Criticism is valid, dragging other female characters into it for comparison is not and borders on sexist.
** Excluding [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk Betty Ross]], Jane Foster possibly has the least amount of fans for a heroic female character in the MCU (yes, even Sif and ''Darcy'', who received way less focus and screentime than her) for her [[StrangledByTheRedString unbelievable]] romance with Thor that [[RomanticPlotTumor brought down the story]] and negatively affects the quality of the film, and also flattened her own character, keeping her entertainingly pathological obsession with her research from the last movie to a minimum in favor of her relationship drama. The fact that a lot of other interesting characters and plot points from the comic was [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter short-changed]] in exchange for her did ''not'' help. Also not helping her cause is that, to some fans, Jane is simply not that interesting as a character, as she lacks the career woman verve of Pepper Potts (from ''Film/IronMan''), the bite of Peggy Carter (from ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger''), and of course the fire of Lady Sif and the steely-eyed DeadpanSnarker charm of Natasha Romanoff/the ComicBook/BlackWidow. As said above, this ''could'' have been completely avoided by giving her love of science an emphasis, but Selvigg is given nearly all of the scientific importance instead, leaving Jane with almost nothing.
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** Excluding [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk Betty Ross]], Jane Foster possibly has the least amount of fans for a heroic female character in the MCU (yes, even Sif and ''Darcy'', who received way less focus and screentime than her) for her [[StrangledByTheRedString unbelievable]] romance with Thor that [[RomanticPlotTumor brought down the story]] and negatively affects the quality of the film, and also flattened her own character, keeping her entertainingly pathological obsession with her research from the last movie to a minimum in favor of her relationship drama. The fact that a lot of other interesting characters and plot points from the comic was [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter short-changed]] in exchange for her did ''not'' help. Also not helping her cause is that, to some fans, Jane is simply not that interesting as a character, as she lacks the career woman verve of Pepper Potts (from ''Film/IronMan''), the bite of Peggy Carter (from ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger''), and of course the fire of Lady Sif and the steely-eyed DeadpanSnarker charm of Natasha Romanoff/the ComicBook/BlackWidow.particularly in this movie. As said above, this ''could'' have been completely avoided by giving her love of science an emphasis, but Selvigg is given nearly all of the scientific importance instead, leaving Jane with almost nothing.
13th Dec '15 4:34:29 PM StFan
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** Excluding [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk Betty Ross]], Jane Foster possibly has the least amount of fans for a heroic female character in the MCU (yes, even Sif and ''Darcy'', who received way less focus and screentime than her) for her [[StrangledByTheRedString unbelievable]] romance with Thor that [[RomanticPlotTumor brought down the story]] and negatively affects the quality of the film, and also flattened her own character, keeping her entertainingly pathological obsession with her research from the last movie to a minimum in favor of her relationship drama. The fact that a lot of other interesting characters and plot points from the comic was [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter short-changed]] in exchange for her did ''not'' help. Also not helping her cause is that, to some fans, Jane is simply not that interesting as a character, as she lacks the career woman verve of Pepper Potts (from ''Film/IronMan''), the bite of Peggy Carter (from ''Film/CaptainAmerica''), and of course the fire of Lady Sif and the steely eyed DeadpanSnarker charm of Natasha Romanoff/the ComicBook/BlackWidow. As said above, this ''could'' have been completely avoided by giving her love of science an emphasis, but Selvigg is given nearly all of the scientific importance instead, leaving Jane with almost nothing.
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** Excluding [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk Betty Ross]], Jane Foster possibly has the least amount of fans for a heroic female character in the MCU (yes, even Sif and ''Darcy'', who received way less focus and screentime than her) for her [[StrangledByTheRedString unbelievable]] romance with Thor that [[RomanticPlotTumor brought down the story]] and negatively affects the quality of the film, and also flattened her own character, keeping her entertainingly pathological obsession with her research from the last movie to a minimum in favor of her relationship drama. The fact that a lot of other interesting characters and plot points from the comic was [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter short-changed]] in exchange for her did ''not'' help. Also not helping her cause is that, to some fans, Jane is simply not that interesting as a character, as she lacks the career woman verve of Pepper Potts (from ''Film/IronMan''), the bite of Peggy Carter (from ''Film/CaptainAmerica''), ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger''), and of course the fire of Lady Sif and the steely eyed steely-eyed DeadpanSnarker charm of Natasha Romanoff/the ComicBook/BlackWidow. As said above, this ''could'' have been completely avoided by giving her love of science an emphasis, but Selvigg is given nearly all of the scientific importance instead, leaving Jane with almost nothing.
8th Dec '15 8:30:32 AM Chris116
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* SignatureScene: ** [[spoiler: Frigga's funeral.]] ** [[spoiler: Chris Evans playing Loki masquerading as Captain America.]]
30th Oct '15 3:25:36 PM Anddrix
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* DudeNotFunny: Erik Selvig's treatment. He suffered a complete nervous breakdown after what Loki did to him in the ''Avengers'' and is clearly suffering from an extremely fragile mental state. Naturally, his SanitySlippage is entirely PlayedForLaughs, with him becoming a TalkativeLoon running around in his underwear.
28th Oct '15 8:24:22 AM MrDeath
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When do they make fun of him?
* DudeNotFunny: Erik Selvig's treatment. He suffered a complete nervous breakdown after what Loki did to him in the ''Avengers'' and is clearly suffering from an extremely fragile mental state. Naturally, his best friends decide to make fun of him in every scene (except the climax) and his SanitySlippage is entirely PlayedForLaughs, with him becoming a TalkativeLoon running around in his underwear.
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* DudeNotFunny: Erik Selvig's treatment. He suffered a complete nervous breakdown after what Loki did to him in the ''Avengers'' and is clearly suffering from an extremely fragile mental state. Naturally, his best friends decide to make fun of him in every scene (except the climax) and his SanitySlippage is entirely PlayedForLaughs, with him becoming a TalkativeLoon running around in his underwear.
28th Oct '15 1:17:56 AM Mister6
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* DudeNotFunny: Erik Selvigg's treatment. He suffered a complete nervous breakdown after what Loki did to him in the ''Avengers'' and is clearly suffering from an extremely fragile mental state. Naturally, his best friends decide to make fun of him in every scene (except the climax) and his SanitySlippage is entirely PlayedForLaughs, with him becoming a TalkativeLoon running around in his underwear.
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* DudeNotFunny: Erik Selvigg's Selvig's treatment. He suffered a complete nervous breakdown after what Loki did to him in the ''Avengers'' and is clearly suffering from an extremely fragile mental state. Naturally, his best friends decide to make fun of him in every scene (except the climax) and his SanitySlippage is entirely PlayedForLaughs, with him becoming a TalkativeLoon running around in his underwear.

** Erik Selvigg was liked just fine in the first movie and ''The Avengers'', but that was mainly because he could be serious in addition to comical. Here he devolves into almost pure comic relief territory that many felt unnecessary and annoying. Helping matters is Selvigg receiving a far smaller amount of screentime in comparison to the first movie, only approaching his original characterisation at the end of the film, but even that is undermined by the film still having Selvigg act like a fool. Worse still, Selvigg is repeatedly stated to have suffered a nervous breakdown after what Loki did to him, yet none of his fragile mental health is treated seriously and is entirely PlayedForLaughs. Thankfully, he's back to normal by ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''.
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** Erik Selvigg Selvig was liked just fine in the first movie and ''The Avengers'', but that was mainly because he could be serious in addition to comical. Here he devolves into almost pure comic relief territory that many felt unnecessary and annoying. Helping matters is Selvigg Selvig receiving a far smaller amount of screentime in comparison to the first movie, only approaching his original characterisation at the end of the film, but even that is undermined by the film still having Selvigg Selvig act like a fool. Worse still, Selvigg Selvig is repeatedly stated to have suffered a nervous breakdown after what Loki did to him, yet none of his fragile mental health is treated seriously and is entirely PlayedForLaughs. Thankfully, he's back to normal by ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''.

* WhatAnIdiot: Thor's entire plan after the initial Dark Elf attack. Bust Loki out of prison? Not a great idea. But the worse idea was to take Jane ''away'' from the heavily fortified Asgard, and leave behind all his allies who could be trusted to boot. Predictably, it ends poorly, with [[spoiler: Malaketh getting the Aether, and Loki usurping Odin's throne]].
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* WhatAnIdiot: Thor's entire plan after the initial Dark Elf attack. Bust Loki out of prison? Not a great idea. But the worse idea was to take Jane ''away'' from the heavily fortified Asgard, and leave behind all his allies who could be trusted to boot. Predictably, it ends poorly, with [[spoiler: Malaketh Malekith getting the Aether, and Loki usurping Odin's throne]].
25th Oct '15 1:43:36 PM MyFinalEdits
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* JerkassWoobie: Weirdly enough, Loki falls into this once again. [[spoiler:He's truly devastated when he hears that Frigga is dead, becoming little more than a broken mess until he gets the chance for revenge]].
25th Oct '15 12:20:15 PM AsForMyHandle
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* JerkassWoobie: Weirdly enough, Loki falls into this once again. [[spoiler:He's truly devastated when he hears that Frigga is dead, becoming little more than a broken mess until he gets the chance for revenge]].
14th Oct '15 7:07:55 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Excluding [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk Betty Ross]], Jane Foster possibly has the least amount of fans for a heroic female character in the MCU (yes, even Sif and ''Darcy'', who received way less focus and screentime than her) for her [[StrangledByTheRedString unbelievable]] romance with Thor that [[RomanticPlotTumor brought down the story]] and negatively affects the quality of the film, and also flattened her own character, keeping her entertainingly pathological obsession with her research from the last movie to a minimum in favor of her relationship drama. The fact that a lot of other interesting characters and plot points from the comic was [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter short-changed]] in exchange for her did ''not'' help. Also not helping her cause is that, to some fans, Jane is simply not that interesting as a character, as she lacks the career woman verve of Pepper Potts (from ''Film/IronMan''), the bite of Peggy Carter (from ''Film/CaptainAmerica''), and of course the fire of Lady Sif and the steely eyed DeadpanSnarker charm of Natasha Romanoff/the ComicBook/BlackWidow.
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** Excluding [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk Betty Ross]], Jane Foster possibly has the least amount of fans for a heroic female character in the MCU (yes, even Sif and ''Darcy'', who received way less focus and screentime than her) for her [[StrangledByTheRedString unbelievable]] romance with Thor that [[RomanticPlotTumor brought down the story]] and negatively affects the quality of the film, and also flattened her own character, keeping her entertainingly pathological obsession with her research from the last movie to a minimum in favor of her relationship drama. The fact that a lot of other interesting characters and plot points from the comic was [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter short-changed]] in exchange for her did ''not'' help. Also not helping her cause is that, to some fans, Jane is simply not that interesting as a character, as she lacks the career woman verve of Pepper Potts (from ''Film/IronMan''), the bite of Peggy Carter (from ''Film/CaptainAmerica''), and of course the fire of Lady Sif and the steely eyed DeadpanSnarker charm of Natasha Romanoff/the ComicBook/BlackWidow. As said above, this ''could'' have been completely avoided by giving her love of science an emphasis, but Selvigg is given nearly all of the scientific importance instead, leaving Jane with almost nothing.
24th Aug '15 8:46:41 PM fusilcontrafusil
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** Malekith never manages to be anything more than a GenericDoomsdayVillain. What makes it especially painful is that he was played by [[Series/DoctorWho Christopher Eccleston]] and he's a much more entertaining character in the comics. Most people blame Loki receiving extra focus due to his popularity for this.
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** Malekith never manages to be anything more than a GenericDoomsdayVillain. What makes it especially painful is that he was played by [[Series/DoctorWho Christopher Eccleston]] Creator/ChristopherEccleston (who passed on the ''Series/DoctorWho'' 50th anniversary special for this, despite reviving the role) and he's a much more entertaining character in the comics. Most people blame Loki receiving extra focus due to his popularity for this.
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