History YMMV / ThorRagnarok

22nd May '18 11:58:25 AM Hjortron18
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* BrokenBase: While the film has received a lot of praise for its LighterAndSofter approach that focuses on the cosmic side of things, and for making Thor a more "fun" character, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits the story being told, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result. One particular joke towards the end - [[spoiler: with {{Cloudcuckoolander}} Korg making his ''"Now those foundations are gone...Sorry"'' statement as the Asgardians watch their home being destroyed.]] - is especially contentious.

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* BrokenBase: While the film has received a lot of praise for its LighterAndSofter approach that focuses on the cosmic side of things, and for making Thor a more "fun" character, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits the story being told, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result. One particular joke towards the end - -- [[spoiler: with {{Cloudcuckoolander}} Korg making his ''"Now those foundations are gone...Sorry"'' statement as the Asgardians watch their home being destroyed.]] - -- is especially contentious.



* SacredCow: Considered widely by fans to be the best ''Thor'' movie and one of the best entries in the MCU in general - some fans can get very defensive when the movie is criticised. Especially over [[NeverLiveItDown the jokes in it]].

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* SacredCow: Considered widely by fans to be the best ''Thor'' movie and one of the best entries in the MCU in general - -- some fans can get very defensive when the movie is criticised. Especially over [[NeverLiveItDown the jokes in it]].
22nd May '18 8:23:00 AM HBICece
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** "''Is'' he, though?"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Thor's reaction to Bruce saying he can be useful without the Hulk has gotten a lot of mileage as a reaction image.[[/labelnote]]
21st May '18 3:10:09 AM rva98014
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* BrokenBase: While the film has received a lot of praise for its LighterAndSofter approach that focuses on the cosmic side of things, and for making Thor a more "fun" character, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits it, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments that actually ''are'' in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result. One particular joke towards the end - [[spoiler: Korg making a wisecrack as the Asgardians watch their home being destroyed]] - is especially contentious.

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* BrokenBase: While the film has received a lot of praise for its LighterAndSofter approach that focuses on the cosmic side of things, and for making Thor a more "fun" character, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits it, the story being told, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments that actually ''are'' in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result. One particular joke towards the end - [[spoiler: with {{Cloudcuckoolander}} Korg making a wisecrack his ''"Now those foundations are gone...Sorry"'' statement as the Asgardians watch their home being destroyed]] destroyed.]] - is especially contentious.
20th May '18 11:04:56 AM AlleyOop
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* BrokenBase: Similarly, with as much praise as it has received, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits it, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments that actually ''are'' in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result. A joke towards the end - [[spoiler: Korg making a wisecrack as the Asgardians watch their home being destroyed]] - is serious contentious.

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* BrokenBase: Similarly, with as much While the film has received a lot of praise as it has received, for its LighterAndSofter approach that focuses on the cosmic side of things, and for making Thor a more "fun" character, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits it, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments that actually ''are'' in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result. A One particular joke towards the end - [[spoiler: Korg making a wisecrack as the Asgardians watch their home being destroyed]] - is serious especially contentious.
20th May '18 4:36:06 AM fearlessnikki
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* BrokenBase: Similarly, with as much praise as it has received, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits it, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments that actually ''are'' in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result.

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* BrokenBase: Similarly, with as much praise as it has received, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits it, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments that actually ''are'' in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result. A joke towards the end - [[spoiler: Korg making a wisecrack as the Asgardians watch their home being destroyed]] - is serious contentious.



* SacredCow: Considered widely by fans to be the best ''Thor'' movie and one of the best entries in the MCU in general - some fans can get very defensive when the movie is criticised. Especially over [[NeverLiveItDown the jokes in it]].



** Likewise, some fans were hoping that with Jane out of the picture, Lady Sif might finally take on a bigger role and even become the female lead of the series. Valkyrie's well-received debut put the kibosh on that, and to add further insult to injury, [[spoiler:Sif doesn't appear in the film ''at all'', with WordOfGod saying Loki likely banished her to keep her from discovering his secret. In fairness, Marvel ''wanted'' her to come back, but Creator/JaimieAlexander was far too busy with ''Series/{{Blindspot}}'']].

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** Likewise, some fans were hoping that with Jane out of the picture, Lady Sif might finally take on a bigger role and even become the female lead of the series. Valkyrie's well-received debut put the kibosh on that, and to add further insult to injury, [[spoiler:Sif doesn't appear in the film ''at all'', with WordOfGod saying Loki likely banished her to keep her from discovering his secret. In fairness, Marvel ''wanted'' her to come back, but Creator/JaimieAlexander was far too busy with ''Series/{{Blindspot}}'']]. This gets even worse with ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' where Sif doesn't appear at all [[spoiler: but WordOfGod claims she was among those killed by Thanos's finger snap at the end]].



** Odin [[spoiler:dies in the first act, so he]] is heavily underused and the movie never really gets to explore his troubled relationship with his family, [[spoiler:especially his daughter, who apparently wielded Mjolnir before Thor, nor the fact that he committed many atrocities that had been covered up, and that Asgard's splendor was built on plunder and conquest]].
*** In addition, we never hear Odin's side of the story, with him only saying that [[spoiler: Hela grew too powerful to control so he banished her. Hela states that Odin, with her as his weapon, drenched the Nine Realms in blood and tears, that Asgard was built on conquest, and that one day Odin just decided to stop being a conqueror and be a protector. Was Odin really a bloodthirsty butcher who just grew tired of it all, or did he have a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment at some point to convince him to try a peaceful path? Or were the Nine Realms as Odin found them terrible places, leading Odin to become a WellIntentionedExtremist who [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what had to be done]] to bring peace, and was glad to set aside the fighting as soon as possible?]] We'll never know.

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** Odin [[spoiler:dies in the first act, so he]] is heavily underused and the movie never really gets to explore his troubled relationship with his family, [[spoiler:especially his daughter, who apparently wielded Mjolnir before Thor, nor the fact that he committed many atrocities that had been covered up, and that Asgard's splendor was built on plunder and conquest]].
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conquest]]. In addition, we never hear Odin's side of the story, with him only saying that [[spoiler: Hela grew too powerful to control so he banished her. Hela states that Odin, with her as his weapon, drenched the Nine Realms in blood and tears, that Asgard was built on conquest, and that one day Odin just decided to stop being a conqueror and be a protector. Was Odin really a bloodthirsty butcher who just grew tired of it all, or did he have a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment at some point to convince him to try a peaceful path? Or were the Nine Realms as Odin found them terrible places, leading Odin to become a WellIntentionedExtremist who [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what had to be done]] to bring peace, and was glad to set aside the fighting as soon as possible?]] We'll never know.
20th May '18 12:30:29 AM ChrisCmoney
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** [[spoiler:Creator/MattDamon]] cameos in the film with his character pretending to be dying as part of a play. Six months later he would cameo in another, completely unrelated [[Film/Deadpool2 Marvel film]] where his character ends up [[DeathByCameo dying for real]].
19th May '18 4:05:33 PM Anddrix
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** One teaser poster seemed to imply that Thor will finally wear his iconic winged helmet in battle, the lack of which in previous films has been [[BrokenBase polarizing among fans, to say the least]]. This was later confirmed in footage shown at [=CinemaCon=].

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** One teaser poster seemed to imply that Thor will finally wear his iconic winged helmet in battle, the lack of which in previous films has been [[BrokenBase polarizing among fans, to say the least]].least. This was later confirmed in footage shown at [=CinemaCon=].



* BrokenBase:
** Fans are divided on Thor's characterization in this movie due to the radical change in tone. While a good number of viewers enjoy the more quippy and lighthearted version in this movie, some would rather prefer the straighter badass BoisterousBruiser characterization in the previous movies and in the comics.
** Similarly, with as much praise as it has received, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits it, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments that actually ''are'' in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result.

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* BrokenBase:
** Fans are divided on Thor's characterization in this movie due to the radical change in tone. While a good number of viewers enjoy the more quippy and lighthearted version in this movie, some would rather prefer the straighter badass BoisterousBruiser characterization in the previous movies and in the comics.
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BrokenBase: Similarly, with as much praise as it has received, there are a number of fans who don't feel like the comedic, ''Guardians of the Galaxy''-esque tone that is present for most of the movie really fits it, particularly when it's dealing with and named after ''[[ApocalypseHow Ragnarok]]'', and that all the dark moments that actually ''are'' in the movie become a case of MoodWhiplash as a result.
18th May '18 4:43:20 PM rva98014
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*** One of the biggest examples of this is the insertion of humor into [[spoiler: the plane of Asgard being annihilated by Surtur. Loads of people had a DudeNotFunny reaction to the destruction of one of the Nine Realms being turned into a joke. On the other side are people who think it's hilarious, and since Odin said "Asgard isn't a place, it's a people", they think it's fine to turn it into a punchline. The first side usually then fires back that Odin's words or no, it's still a place the Asgardian people have lived for millennia, and you wouldn't just get over your own city being blown up [[SkewedPriorities just because you know that you can get someplace else]].]]
18th May '18 3:48:22 PM siberia82
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* PortmanteauCoupleName: "Frostmaster" for Loki/the Grandmaster.

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"Frostmaster" for Loki/the Grandmaster.Grandmaster.
** "Valki" for Valkyrie/Loki.
18th May '18 1:52:15 PM LordOfTheSword
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*** One of the biggest examples of this is the insertion of humor into [[spoiler: the plane of Asgard being annihilated by Surtur]]. Loads of people had a DudeNotFunny reaction to [[spoiler: the destruction of one of the Nine Realms being turned into a joke. On the other side are people who think it's hilarious, and since Odin said "Asgard isn't a place, it's a people", they think it's fine to turn it into a punchline. The first side usually then fires back that Odin's words or no, it's still a place the Asgardian people have lived for millennia, and you wouldn't just get over your own city being blown up [[SkewedPriorities just because you know that you can get someplace else]].]]

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*** One of the biggest examples of this is the insertion of humor into [[spoiler: the plane of Asgard being annihilated by Surtur]]. Surtur. Loads of people had a DudeNotFunny reaction to [[spoiler: the destruction of one of the Nine Realms being turned into a joke. On the other side are people who think it's hilarious, and since Odin said "Asgard isn't a place, it's a people", they think it's fine to turn it into a punchline. The first side usually then fires back that Odin's words or no, it's still a place the Asgardian people have lived for millennia, and you wouldn't just get over your own city being blown up [[SkewedPriorities just because you know that you can get someplace else]].]]
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