History YMMV / TheWire

22nd Apr '17 4:28:30 PM TheFox
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** Kenard. Probably the only [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example of one.
** Ziggy
** Templeton
** Herc

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** Kenard. Probably Kenard for being a horrible, sociopathic little brat. Oh yeah, there's also the only [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example fact that he [[spoiler: '''killed Omar.''']]
** Ziggy seemed to exist for no reason other than to constantly make things worse for himself and those arond him through sheer stupidity, and fans disliked him as much as the characters themselves.
** Templeton. In a series where almost no one gets a happy ending no matter what side
of one.
the law they'r eon or how sympathetic they are, the fact that a slimy, dishonest reporter like him [[spoiler: wins a Pulitzer]] and faces seemingly no punishment really rubbed fans the wrong way.
** Ziggy
** Templeton
** Herc
Herc for being a dumb cop who doesn't seem to learn anything despite having multiple opportunities to do so.
9th Apr '17 11:31:13 AM Silverblade2
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** MagnificentBastard Clay Davis, arguably the GreaterScopeVillain on the semi-legal side arguably counts. A corrupt FauxAffablyEvil sociopath who steals money from charities and is known to be pretty scummy in his personal life, ultimately responsible for ruining Tommy Carcetti's reign and is a thorn in the side of Cedric Daniels investigation due to his political friendship with [[DaChief Ervin Burrell.]] He also lacks HonourAmongThieves, willing to implicate the likes of Nerese, Royce and others when he is under scrutiny in Seasons 4 and 5. Not one redeeming quality is shown by him apart from his giving away the name of the gambling addict when pressured to by Lester Freamon, and that wasn't out of goodness but because he didn't know he'd actually been left off the hook.
5th Apr '17 4:49:46 AM TywinIsGod
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** For Stringer: [[spoiler:What he does to Wallace]]. And if that doesn't convince you, [[spoiler: arranging D'Angelo's death. Dee was one of the only completely likeable members of the Barksdale gang and was on the way up education-wise at The Cut. Then Stringer has him killed and [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident makes it look like a suicide]] just because he's afraid of Dee ratting to lower his sentence, ''and he does so without ManipulativeBastard Avon's consent''. Not to mention the fact that before and after the hit he spends a lot of the time fucking D'Angelo's girlfriend, and even has the balls to pick up and hold D'Angelo's infant son while he's plotting to have his dad murdered.]] Holy shit.

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** For Stringer: [[spoiler:What he does to Wallace]]. And if that doesn't convince you, [[spoiler: arranging D'Angelo's death. Dee was one of the only completely likeable members of the Barksdale gang and was on the way up education-wise at The Cut. Then Stringer has him killed and [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident makes it look like a suicide]] just because he's afraid of Dee ratting to lower his sentence, ''and he does so without ManipulativeBastard Avon's consent''. Not to mention the fact that before and after the hit he spends a lot of the time fucking D'Angelo's girlfriend, and even has the balls to pick up and hold D'Angelo's infant son while he's plotting to have his dad murdered.]] Holy shit.
4th Apr '17 7:52:16 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: The series was initially rejected by Creator/{{HBO}}, who weren't even sure that they wanted a police procedural in their programming lineup - they had to be convinced by Creator/DavidSimon (who had previously collaborated with them on 2000's ''Series/TheCorner'') to produce a pilot episode. The resulting season didn't fare so great in the ratings, and the series was on the verge of cancellation - until critics started promoting the show as one of the best new series in years. The show subsequently survived multiple attempts at cancellation, lasted five seasons, and has been regarded as one of the best dramatic series produced from the 21st century.
3rd Apr '17 4:25:24 AM TywinIsGod
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** MagnificentBastard Clay Davis, arguably the GreaterScopeVillain on the semi-legal side arguably counts. A corrupt FauxAffablyEvil sociopath who steals money from charities and is known to be pretty scummy in his personal life, ultimately responsible for ruining Tommy Carcetti's reign and is a thorn in the side of Cedric Daniels investigation due to his political friendship with [[DaChief Ervin Burrell.]] Not one redeeming quality is shown by him apart from his giving away the name of the gambling addict when pressured to by Lester Freamon, and that wasn't out of goodness but because he didn't know he'd actually been left off the hook.

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** MagnificentBastard Clay Davis, arguably the GreaterScopeVillain on the semi-legal side arguably counts. A corrupt FauxAffablyEvil sociopath who steals money from charities and is known to be pretty scummy in his personal life, ultimately responsible for ruining Tommy Carcetti's reign and is a thorn in the side of Cedric Daniels investigation due to his political friendship with [[DaChief Ervin Burrell.]] He also lacks HonourAmongThieves, willing to implicate the likes of Nerese, Royce and others when he is under scrutiny in Seasons 4 and 5. Not one redeeming quality is shown by him apart from his giving away the name of the gambling addict when pressured to by Lester Freamon, and that wasn't out of goodness but because he didn't know he'd actually been left off the hook.
3rd Apr '17 1:54:40 AM TywinIsGod
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* MagnificentBastard Clay Davis, arguably the GreaterScopeVillain on the semi-legal side arguably counts. A corrupt FauxAffablyEvil sociopath who steals money from charities and is known to be pretty scummy in his personal life, ultimately responsible for ruining Tommy Carcetti's reign and is a thorn in the side of Cedric Daniels investigation due to his political friendship with [[DaChief Ervin Burrell.]] Not one redeeming quality is shown by him apart from his giving away the name of the gambling addict when pressured to by Lester Freamon, and that wasn't out of goodness but because he didn't know he'd actually been left off the hook.

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* ** MagnificentBastard Clay Davis, arguably the GreaterScopeVillain on the semi-legal side arguably counts. A corrupt FauxAffablyEvil sociopath who steals money from charities and is known to be pretty scummy in his personal life, ultimately responsible for ruining Tommy Carcetti's reign and is a thorn in the side of Cedric Daniels investigation due to his political friendship with [[DaChief Ervin Burrell.]] Not one redeeming quality is shown by him apart from his giving away the name of the gambling addict when pressured to by Lester Freamon, and that wasn't out of goodness but because he didn't know he'd actually been left off the hook.
2nd Apr '17 11:51:38 PM TywinIsGod
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* CompleteMonster: Marlo Stanfield, the BigBad in seasons 4 and 5, is introduced in season 3 as a ruthless, up-and-coming drug lord who forgoes a membership in a profitable coalition of drug lords who [[PragmaticVillainy teamed up]] to increase their profit, end the violence between their factions, and deter police attention, and instead decides to wage war against the Barksdale organization after the gang's NumberTwo made the offer, interpreting his pragmatism as weakness. Marlo's crimes include ordering Junebug and his family killed because there was hearsay Junebug called Marlo a "dick-sucker"; ordering Snoop to kill his [[WouldHurtAChild 14-year-old soldier, Michael]] on the suspicion he was a rat; and murdering his mentor, Proposition Joe, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness when he learns everything he could from him]]. The most horrifying reveal about Marlo is the discovery of his tombs, vacant houses where he stores the preserved bodies of people he ordered murdered. Over twenty people were found in the tombs, and not just rival criminals. One of his most [[ForTheEvulz pointlessly cruel acts]] was after he deliberately egged on a security guard in a convenience store by committing petty theft in front of him. Though the guard only responded by telling Marlo he had a family to support, and essentially asked for nothing more than to be treated like a human being, Marlo still ordered him killed for "talking back." In a crime series where even the most despicable criminals were humanized and sympathetic to some degree, Marlo Stanfield was just a power-hungry [[TheSociopath sociopath]] whose mere presence [[BlackAndGrayMorality darkened an already pessimistic show]] known for its GreyAndGrayMorality.

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* CompleteMonster: Marlo Stanfield, the BigBad in seasons 4 and 5, is introduced in season 3 as a ruthless, up-and-coming drug lord who forgoes a membership in a profitable coalition of drug lords who [[PragmaticVillainy teamed up]] to increase their profit, end the violence between their factions, and deter police attention, and instead decides to wage war against the Barksdale organization after the gang's NumberTwo made the offer, interpreting [[WrongGenreSavvy interpreting]] his pragmatism as weakness. Marlo's crimes include ordering Junebug and his family killed because there was hearsay Junebug called Marlo a "dick-sucker"; ordering Snoop to kill his [[WouldHurtAChild 14-year-old soldier, Michael]] on the suspicion he was a rat; and murdering his mentor, Proposition Joe, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness when he learns everything he could from him]]. The most horrifying reveal about Marlo is the discovery of his tombs, vacant houses where he stores the preserved bodies of people he ordered murdered. Over twenty people were found in the tombs, and not just rival criminals. One of his most [[ForTheEvulz pointlessly cruel acts]] was after he deliberately egged on a security guard in a convenience store by committing petty theft in front of him. Though the guard only responded by telling Marlo he had a family to support, and essentially asked for nothing more than to be treated like a human being, Marlo still ordered him killed for "talking back." In a crime series where even the most despicable criminals were humanized and sympathetic to some degree, Marlo Stanfield was just a power-hungry [[TheSociopath sociopath]] whose mere presence [[BlackAndGrayMorality darkened an already pessimistic show]] known for its GreyAndGrayMorality.GreyAndGrayMorality.
* MagnificentBastard Clay Davis, arguably the GreaterScopeVillain on the semi-legal side arguably counts. A corrupt FauxAffablyEvil sociopath who steals money from charities and is known to be pretty scummy in his personal life, ultimately responsible for ruining Tommy Carcetti's reign and is a thorn in the side of Cedric Daniels investigation due to his political friendship with [[DaChief Ervin Burrell.]] Not one redeeming quality is shown by him apart from his giving away the name of the gambling addict when pressured to by Lester Freamon, and that wasn't out of goodness but because he didn't know he'd actually been left off the hook.
17th Mar '17 4:21:56 AM TywinIsGod
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** The biggest in the series, however, is probably the Greek. In spite of all the shit he's involved in, the cops can only connect him with a nickname. The punchline? [[spoiler: he's not even Greek.]]

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** The biggest in the series, however, is probably the Greek. In spite of all the shit he's involved in, the cops can only connect him with a nickname. The punchline? [[spoiler: he's He's not even Greek.]]
17th Mar '17 4:21:34 AM TywinIsGod
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** The biggest in the series, however, is probably the Greek. In spite of all the shit he's involved in, the cops can only connect him with a nickname. Of course, he's not even Greek.

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** The biggest in the series, however, is probably the Greek. In spite of all the shit he's involved in, the cops can only connect him with a nickname. Of course, The punchline? [[spoiler: he's not even Greek.]]
4th Feb '17 12:50:21 AM erforce
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** We finally get to see Avon and Wallace together in the ''Franchise/{{Rocky}}'' spin-off film ''Creed''.

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** We finally get to see Avon and Wallace together in the ''Franchise/{{Rocky}}'' spin-off film ''Creed''.''Film/{{Creed}}''.
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