History YMMV / TheVoyageOfTheDawnTreader

17th Sep '16 2:03:37 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* HilariousInHindsight: In the fog of nightmares, Eustace mentions hearing "[[NoodleImplements a huge pair of scissors opening and shutting]]." After about 1998 or so, this is likely to remind readers of a certain ''[[Film/TheBigLebowski other]]'' story with a NightmareSequence featuring giant scissors.



** Plus the [[SuperFunHappyThingOfDoom Island Where Dreams Come True]]. Not daydreams. ''[[OhCrap Dreams]]''. As in ''[[NightmareSequence nightmares]]''.

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** Plus the [[SuperFunHappyThingOfDoom Island Where Dreams Come True]]. [[OhCrap Not daydreams. ''[[OhCrap daydreams]]. ''[[RealDreamsAreWeirder Dreams]]''. As in ''[[NightmareSequence nightmares]]''.
21st Jul '16 7:34:19 PM HeroGal2347
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** The book greatly subverts Lucy's purity and perfection that had made her seem a bit Sueish in the series so far. She shows jealousy over Susan, that she was picked to go on a trip to America instead of her. She also envies the attention and admiration Susan gets because of her beauty. This jealousy nearly causes her to use a spell to make her just like Susan. She doesn't do it but she does cast another spell to find out what her friends say about her behind her back. When she does, she witnesses her friend saying something nasty. Aslan then tells Lucy that her friend did not mean what she said, and scolds Lucy for her mistake. Overall it shows that, for however sweet and perfect someone may seem, even a CanonSue can still feel envious of what she doesn't have or still desire the appreciation of others.

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** The book greatly subverts Lucy's purity and perfection that had made her seem a bit Sueish in the series so far. She shows jealousy over Susan, that she was picked to go on a trip to America instead of her. She also envies the attention and admiration Susan gets because of her beauty. This jealousy nearly causes her to use a spell to make her just like Susan. She the WorldsMostBeautifulWoman, in spite of the horrible consequences the book shows ensuing. Because Aslan roars at her at the last minute, she doesn't do it but she does cast another spell to find out what her friends say about her behind her back. When she does, she witnesses her friend saying something nasty. Aslan then tells Lucy that her friend did not mean what she said, and scolds Lucy for her mistake. Overall it shows that, for however sweet and perfect someone may seem, even a CanonSue Canon Sue can still feel envious of what she doesn't have or still desire the appreciation of others.
21st Jul '16 1:18:02 PM JoieDeCombat
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* ReplacementScrappy: Subverted. Simon Pegg's performance as Reepicheep was praised more than Eddie Izzard's in the previous film. The two are about even in terms of preference.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Subverted. Simon Pegg's performance as Reepicheep was praised more than Though Eddie Izzard's performance as the voice of Reepicheep in the previous film. The two are about even film was highly praised by fans, Simon Pegg's turn in terms of preference.the role in this film has been embraced with equal enthusiasm.



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8th Feb '16 12:31:56 PM fearlessnikki
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Will Poulter's portrayal of Eustace went down very well with fans.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Will Poulter's portrayal of Eustace went down very well with fans.fans.
** Likewise Liliandil was warmly received, and the name she got in the film is taken as canon.
* FridgeBrilliance: With WordOfGod confirming that the green mist was caused by the Lady of the Green Kirtle, it makes sense why she [[spoiler: murders Liliandil in the next book]]. Liliandil was the one who told the Pevensies how to stop her first plan.
30th May '15 2:55:40 AM Silverblade2
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Despite FirstInstallmentWins, ''Voyage of the Dawn Treader'' is one of the more popular books in the series.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: CultClassic: Despite FirstInstallmentWins, ''Voyage of the Dawn Treader'' is one of the more popular books in the series.
23rd May '15 2:33:27 PM fearlessnikki
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* CanonSue: Both book and movie examine the trope in different ways:
** The book greatly subverts Lucy's purity and perfection that had made her seem a bit Sueish in the series so far. She shows jealousy over Susan, that she was picked to go on a trip to America instead of her. She also envies the attention and admiration Susan gets because of her beauty. This jealousy nearly causes her to use a spell to make her just like Susan. She doesn't do it but she does cast another spell to find out what her friends say about her behind her back. When she does, she witnesses her friend saying something nasty. Aslan then tells Lucy that her friend did not mean what she said, and scolds Lucy for her mistake. Overall it shows that, for however sweet and perfect someone may seem, even a CanonSue can still feel envious of what she doesn't have or still desire the appreciation of others.
** The movie has Lucy go ahead and read the spell. It works a little too literally, as Lucy has a dream where she has become Susan. As a side effect, Lucy has never existed. And therefore her siblings never discovered Narnia. Aslan then gently scolds Lucy for her vanity, saying that by wishing she were someone else, she is undermining her own worth as a person.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Despite FirstInstallmentWins, ''Voyage of the Dawn Treader'' is one of the more popular books in the series.



* ClicheStorm: The mist and sword plot created for the movie.

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* BrokenBase: This evokes this even more than the other two adaptations. Detractors don't like it because it adds an antagonist that didn't exist in the book, a GottaCatchEmAll plot involving swords and also a shorter running time. There's another subset that don't like it because it has a different director and therefore a different style from the first two. On the flip side, its fans argue that it needed some kind of narrative to help it flow better as a film (the book being a RandomEventsPlot) and they also enjoy the increased screen time for Edmund and Lucy.
* ClicheStorm: The mist and sword plot created for the movie.movie is this for some.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Will Poulter's portrayal of Eustace went down very well with fans.



* HoYay: Apparently, Caspian and Edmund, for some people.
** It's not that far-fetched, considering that Caspian spends much of the movie offering Edmund ancient swords he'd been given in recognition of his own kingship. Then there is the very intimate scene of them getting dressed and the touching centre-stage hug at the end.
** The mileage in this one varies a lot. Frankly, to some people they just became like brothers and the touching one-hug at the end just accentuates their brotherly connection. After all, Caspian does tell them they are like his ''family'' to him.

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* HoYay: Apparently, There's a bit of it between Caspian and Edmund, for some people.
** It's not that far-fetched, considering
though the film does point out that Caspian spends much of the movie offering views Edmund ancient swords he'd been given in recognition of (and Lucy) as his own kingship. Then there family.
* IKnewIt: A small one. Fans expected that Ramandu's daughter would get NamedByTheAdaptation (as it had happened to a few other characters in previous films). Liliandil
is the very intimate scene of them getting dressed and the touching centre-stage hug at the end.
** The mileage in this one varies a lot. Frankly, to some people they just became like brothers and the touching one-hug at the end just accentuates their brotherly connection. After all, Caspian does tell them they are like his ''family'' to him.
accepted as canon.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: A lot of fans preferred Ben Barnes's performance as Caspian in this - since the character TookALevelInKindness and Barnes was using his natural voice.
* ReplacementScrappy: Subverted. Simon Pegg's performance as Reepicheep was praised more than Eddie Izzard's in the previous film. The two are about even in terms of preference.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: What was once a book about a visionary journey, a quest for Paradise, is now... a movie full of fairly standard stuff about overcoming evil with swords.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: What was once Needless to say, a book lot of fans did not like the added plot about gathering Aslan's swords or the green mist.
* TrailerJokeDecay:
** Liliandil suggesting she change form if [[DistractedByTheSexy they find it too distracting]], Edmund and Caspian shouting "no!" and Lucy rolling her eyes. It was in every trailer.
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a visionary journey, a quest for Paradise, is now... a movie full of fairly standard stuff about overcoming evil with swords.lesser extent, the minotaur making Eustace faint and saying "was it something I said?"
22nd Dec '14 12:00:59 AM Statzkeen
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*** Considering the movie didn't shy away from incestual subtext (see below), [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar could be both]].
9th Dec '14 10:31:30 AM LBHills
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: What was one a visionary journey, a quest for Paradise, is now... fairly standard stuff about overcoming evil with swords.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: What was one once a book about a visionary journey, a quest for Paradise, is now... a movie full of fairly standard stuff about overcoming evil with swords.
9th Dec '14 10:27:59 AM LBHills
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** Goldwater Island, full stop. [[spoiler: [[IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace Deathwater Island]] [[AndIMustScream is right]]]].

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** Goldwater Island, full stop.Island. [[spoiler: [[IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace Deathwater Island]] [[AndIMustScream is right]]]].
28th Sep '14 2:08:51 AM Silverblade2
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* UnfortunateImplications: Despite the green mist appearing to Edmund as the White Witch and tempting him with power, saying "I can make you a man", and "you can be my king", but he keeps threatening her away with his sword. The dark island manifests Edmund's greatest fear; a large phallic monster. Combine that with his jealousy towards Caspian and, well...

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* %%* UnfortunateImplications: Despite the green mist appearing to Edmund as the White Witch and tempting him with power, saying "I can make you a man", and "you can be my king", but he keeps threatening her away with his sword. The dark island manifests Edmund's greatest fear; a large phallic monster. Combine that with his jealousy towards Caspian and, well...
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