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* HilariousInHindsight: Look at the cover currently pictured on the main page, where Vetinari has blond hair. This was ''long'' before TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Literature/GoingPostal'', which cast a blond Vetinari and surprised many readers by doing so.
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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
** Look at the cover currently pictured on the main page, where Vetinari has blond hair. This was ''long'' before TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Literature/GoingPostal'', which cast a blond Vetinari and surprised many readers by doingso.so.
** While pointing out the viability of animals as witnesses (and defendants) in court trials, Mr. Slant recounts an incident about a parrot testifying at a murder trial. [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney One real life year later...]]
** Look at the cover currently pictured on the main page, where Vetinari has blond hair. This was ''long'' before TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Literature/GoingPostal'', which cast a blond Vetinari and surprised many readers by doing
** While pointing out the viability of animals as witnesses (and defendants) in court trials, Mr. Slant recounts an incident about a parrot testifying at a murder trial. [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney One real life year later...]]
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** Death shows up for Mr. Tulip, and shows him just how much pain he's caused in his life... [[MindRape by forcing him to relive every murder he's committed, 'from the perspective of his victims']]. We don't find out how many or for how long, but by the end, the indomitable Mr. Tulip is thoroughly broken. To the point he suggests being reincarnated to when he was still alive and [[ItMakesSenseInContext "killing himself"]].
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** Death shows up for Mr. Tulip, and shows him just how much pain he's caused in his life... [[MindRape by forcing him to relive every murder he's committed, 'from committed [[MindRape from the perspective of his victims']].victims]]. We don't find out how many or for how long, but by the end, the indomitable Mr. Tulip is thoroughly broken. To the point he suggests being reincarnated to during a time when he was still alive and [[ItMakesSenseInContext "killing himself"]].killing himself]].
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* OneTrueThreesome: [[DaEditor William]] x [[IntrepidReporter Sacharissa]] x [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire Otto]] is particularly popular in the fanbase. William and Sacharissa are classic WillTheyOrWontThey leads, and while they agree to be JustFriends the ending leaves open the possibility for more, with later books hinting at their eventual marriage. Meanwhile, Otto is friendly with Sacharissa and tempted to fall off the [[VegetarianVampire wagon]] at the sight of her [[BuxomIsBetter 'heaving bosom']], and he spends much of the book befriending William and helping him face his own prejudices.
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* OneTrueThreesome: [[DaEditor William]] x [[IntrepidReporter Sacharissa]] x [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire Otto]] is particularly popular in the fanbase. William and Sacharissa are classic WillTheyOrWontThey leads, and while they agree to be JustFriends the ending leaves open the possibility for more, with later books hinting at their eventual marriage. Meanwhile, Otto is friendly with Sacharissa and tempted to fall off the [[VegetarianVampire wagon]] at the sight of her [[BuxomIsBetter [[BuxomBeautyStandard 'heaving bosom']], and he spends much of the book befriending William and helping him face his own prejudices.
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Please use the Magnificent Bastard cleanup thread to propose characters before writing their entries. Magnificent Bastard entries not approved by the thread will be deleted.
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* MagnificentBastard: In addition to Vetinari, who's always one, William shows signs of becoming one, particularly in any scene where he has to deal with threats to the press, such as his handling of Slant.
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--> Lord de Worde had inclined to the old proverb that as you bend the twig, so grows the tree. William had not been a particularly flexible twig. Lord de Worde had not, himself, been a violent man. He'd merely employed them.
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Those Two Bad Guys is now Bumbling Henchmen Duo. If I'm cutting this example, it's either misuse or there's not enough context to tell if it's actually an example and not another trope like Evil Duo.
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** The final fate of the New Firm, or at least, the thing that finally gets them. It's a lot like, if [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd]] had ended up in that crematorium instead of Bond in ''Film/DiamondsAreForever''... drawn out for ''pages'' of anticipation.
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** The final fate of the New Firm, or at least, the thing that finally gets them. It's a lot like, like if [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd]] Kidd had ended up in that crematorium instead of Bond in ''Film/DiamondsAreForever''... drawn out for ''pages'' of anticipation.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Look at the cover currently pictured on the main page, where Vetinari has blond hair. This was ''long'' before TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Discworld/GoingPostal'', which cast a blond Vetinari and surprised many readers by doing so.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Look at the cover currently pictured on the main page, where Vetinari has blond hair. This was ''long'' before TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Discworld/GoingPostal'', ''Literature/GoingPostal'', which cast a blond Vetinari and surprised many readers by doing so.
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** The "----ing" joke first showed up in ''Discworld/{{Mort}}''.
** And in ''Discworld/{{Sourcery}}'', one of the senior wizards had studied languages for so long he can pronounce parentheses (pretty cool, huh?).
** And in ''Discworld/{{Sourcery}}'', one of the senior wizards had studied languages for so long he can pronounce parentheses (pretty cool, huh?).
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** The "----ing" joke first showed up in ''Discworld/{{Mort}}''.
''Literature/{{Mort}}''.
** And in''Discworld/{{Sourcery}}'', ''Literature/{{Sourcery}}'', one of the senior wizards had studied languages for so long he can pronounce parentheses (pretty cool, huh?).
** And in
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* IdiosyncraticShipNaming: 'Newspaper OT3' for William x Sacharissa x Otto.
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* OneTrueThreesome: [[DaEditor William]] x [[IntrepidReporter Sacharissa]] x [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire Otto]] is particularly popular in the fanbase. William and Sacharissa are classic WillTheyOrWontThey leads, and while they agree to be JustFriends the ending leaves open the possibility for more, with later books hinting at their eventual marriage. Meanwhile, Otto is friendly with Sacharissa and tempted to fall off the [[VegetarianVampire wagon]] at the sight of her [[BuxomIsBetter 'heaving bosom']], and he spends much of the book befriending William and helping him face his own prejudices.
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** Death shows up for Mr. Tulip, and shows him just how much pain he's caused in his life... [[MindRape by forcing him to relive every murder he's committed, 'from the perspective of his victims']]. We don't find out how many or for how long, but by the end, the indomitable Mr. Tulip is thoroughly broken. To the point he suggests being reincarnated to when he was still alive and [[ItMakesSenseInContext "killing himself"]].
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** Being wrongfully accused of and arrested for attempted murder and embezzlement is nightmarish enough; but it's also strongly implied that if Vetinari is pardoned by a new Patrician (thereby completing his character assassination), he'll meet a swift end through being 'retired' afterwards, with no chance to clear his name. Even worse is the fact that Vetinari is unable to argue in his own defence, as his head injury wipes his memory of the attack.
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** Being wrongfully accused of and arrested for attempted murder and embezzlement is nightmarish enough; but it's also strongly implied that if Vetinari is pardoned by a new Patrician (thereby completing his character assassination), he'll meet a swift end through being 'retired' afterwards, with no chance to clear his name. Even worse is the fact that Vetinari is unable to argue in his own defence, as his head injury wipes his memory of the attack. Suddenly Vetinari's decision to sleep through most of his incarceration is a lot more understandable...
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** Being wrongfully accused of and arrested for attempted murder and embezzlement is nightmarish enough; but it's also strongly implied that if Vetinari is pardoned by a new Patrician (thereby completing his character assassination), he'll meet a swift end through being 'retired' afterwards, with no chance to clear his name. Even worse is the fact that Vetinari is unable to argue in his own defence, as his head injury wipes his memory of the attack.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: At one point, Mr. Pin thinks about how Mr. Tulip mainlines bath salts. This is simply part of the joke about Tulip snorting everything he can find. [[OnlyInFlorida Thirteen years later, the mention of bath salts has its own special meaning.]]
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** Otto, coming upon the burned remains of The Times offices, assumes that "It vas a mob, yes? Zere is alvays a mob, sooner or later. Zey got my friend Boris. He showed them zer black ribbon but zey just laughed and--" Hinting that reformed vampires are in danger from, essentially, lynch mobs.
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** The final fate of the New Firm, or at least, the thing that finally gets them. It's a lot like, if [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd]] had ended up in that crematorium instead of Bond in ''Film/DiamondsAreForever''... drawn out for ''pages'' of anticipation.
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** Likewise, the equally vague allusions to Mr. Tulip's childhood. It's suggested he's forgotten most of it for a ''reason''.
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--> Lord de Worde had inclined to the old proverb that as you bend the twig, so grows the tree. William had not been a particularly flexible twig. Lord de Worde had not, himself, been a violent man. He'd merely employed them.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The "----ing" joke first showed up in ''Discworld/{{Mort}}''.
** An in ''{{Sourcery}}'', one of the senior wizards had studied languages for so long he can pronounce parentheses (pretty cool, huh?).
** Then again in Men at Arms: "D*mn," said Carrot, a difficult linguistic feat.
** An in ''{{Sourcery}}'', one of the senior wizards had studied languages for so long he can pronounce parentheses (pretty cool, huh?).
** Then again in Men at Arms: "D*mn," said Carrot, a difficult linguistic feat.
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** The "----ing" joke first showed up in ''Discworld/{{Mort}}''.
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* NightmareFuel: The book describes images resulting from dark light photography in very vivid detail. [[spoiler:Then near the end, where one of photos comes true...]]
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Fridge Logic doesn\'t go here.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: At one point, Mr. Pin thinks about how Mr. Tulip mainlines bath salts. This is simply part of the joke about Tulip snorting everything he can find. [[OnlyInFlorida Thirteen years later, the mention of bath salts has its own special meaning.]]
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* FridgeLogic: Why did William spend 40% of his income on engraving his monthly letter? Why not just use those two days and 20 dollars to write it out four more times?
** Establishing a consistent friendly business relationship with the engraver in case his business expands (IE, he gets contacted by more people who want his news letters)?
* FridgeLogic: Why did William spend 40% of his income on engraving his monthly letter? Why not just use those two days and 20 dollars to write it out four more times?
** Establishing a consistent friendly business relationship with the engraver in case his business expands (IE, he gets contacted by more people who want his news letters)?
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** Then again in Men at Arms: "D*mn," said Carrot, a difficult linguistic feat.
* FridgeLogic: Why did William spend 40% of his income on engraving his monthly letter? Why not just use those two days and 20 dollars to write it out four more times?
** Establishing a consistent friendly business relationship with the engraver in case his business expands (IE, he gets contacted by more people who want his news letters)?feat.
* FridgeLogic: Why did William spend 40% of his income on engraving his monthly letter? Why not just use those two days and 20 dollars to write it out four more times?
** Establishing a consistent friendly business relationship with the engraver in case his business expands (IE, he gets contacted by more people who want his news letters)?
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Not YMMV
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Mr. Tulip and Mr. Pin, big time. They believe they are the next, greatest generation of criminals and that Ank-Morpork is full of has been amateurs, never mind that Ank Morpork is to evil and corruption what guns are to bullets and the only reason they are so content is because they had found an stability of massive backstabbing and violence that is maintained by the threat of two of the three greatest forces in the Discworld: [[MagnificentBastard Vetinari intelligence]] and [[TheFettered Sam's idealism]].
* SmallNameBigEgo: Mr. Tulip and Mr. Pin, big time. They believe they are the next, greatest generation of criminals and that Ank-Morpork is full of has been amateurs, never mind that Ank Morpork is to evil and corruption what guns are to bullets and the only reason they are so content is because they had found an stability of massive backstabbing and violence that is maintained by the threat of two of the three greatest forces in the Discworld: [[MagnificentBastard Vetinari intelligence]] and [[TheFettered Sam's idealism]].
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** Establishing a consistent friendly business relationship with the engraver in case his business expands (IE, he gets contacted by more people who want his news letters)?
* SmallNameBigEgo: Mr. Tulip and Mr. Pin, big time. They believe they are the next, greatest generation of criminals and that Ank-Morpork is full of has been amateurs, never mind that Ank Morpork is to evil and corruption what guns are to bullets and the only reason they are so content is because they had found an stability of massive backstabbing and violence that is maintained by the threat of two of the three greatest forces in the Discworld: [[MagnificentBastard Vetinari intelligence]] and [[TheFettered Sam's idealism]].letters)?
* SmallNameBigEgo: Mr. Tulip and Mr. Pin, big time. They believe they are the next, greatest generation of criminals and that Ank-Morpork is full of has been amateurs, never mind that Ank Morpork is to evil and corruption what guns are to bullets and the only reason they are so content is because they had found an stability of massive backstabbing and violence that is maintained by the threat of two of the three greatest forces in the Discworld: [[MagnificentBastard Vetinari intelligence]] and [[TheFettered Sam's idealism]].
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Someone isn\'t familiar with the consistency of the River Ankh. You can walk across the darn thing, remember.
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler:The New Firm dumps two sacks of dogs into the river Ankh. Arnold Sideways only rescues ''one'' sack. That means the other sackful of dogs ''all drown''.]]
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Mr. Tulip and Mr. Pin, big time. They believe they are the next, greatest generation of criminals and that Ank-Morpork is full of has been amateurs, never mind that Ank Morpork is to evil and corruption what guns are to bullets and the only reason they are so content is because they had found an stability of massive backstabbing and violence that is maintained by the threat of two of the three greatest forces in the Discworld: [[MagnificentBastard Vetinari intelligence]] and [[TheFettered Sam's idealism]].
* SmallNameBigEgo: Mr. Tulip and Mr. Pin, big time. They believe they are the next, greatest generation of criminals and that Ank-Morpork is full of has been amateurs, never mind that Ank Morpork is to evil and corruption what guns are to bullets and the only reason they are so content is because they had found an stability of massive backstabbing and violence that is maintained by the threat of two of the three greatest forces in the Discworld: [[MagnificentBastard Vetinari intelligence]] and [[TheFettered Sam's idealism]].
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** Establishing a consistent friendly business relationship with the engraver in case his business expands (IE, he gets contacted by more people who want his news letters)?
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*FridgeHorror: [[spoiler:The New Firm dumps two sacks of dogs into the river Ankh. Arnold Sideways only rescues ''one'' sack. That means the other sackful of dogs ''all drown''.]]
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The "----ing" joke first showed up in ''Discworld/{{Mort}}''.''Discworld/{{Mort}}''.
* FridgeLogic: Why did William spend 40% of his income on engraving his monthly letter? Why not just use those two days and 20 dollars to write it out four more times?
* FridgeLogic: Why did William spend 40% of his income on engraving his monthly letter? Why not just use those two days and 20 dollars to write it out four more times?