History YMMV / TheSopranos

29th May '16 8:16:56 AM Silverblade2
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: An argument about an Army career for A.J., before TheWarOnTerror.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: FunnyAneurysmMoment:
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An argument about an Army career for A.J., before TheWarOnTerror.



** Any fat joke (either towards Ginny Sack or Tony) because their portrayers, Denise Borino-Quinn and James Gandolfini, respectfully died in real life in a matter of 2 years, 7 months, 23 days.



** Any fat joke (either towards Ginny Sack or Tony) because their portrayers, Denise Borino-Quinn and James Gandolfini, respectfully died in real life in a matter of 2 years, 7 months, 23 days.
28th May '16 3:01:35 PM jboone93
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* Any fat joke (either towards Ginny Sack or Tony) because their portrayers, Denise Borino-Quinn and James Gandolfini, respectfully died in real life in a matter of 2 years, 7 months, 23 days.

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* ** Any fat joke (either towards Ginny Sack or Tony) because their portrayers, Denise Borino-Quinn and James Gandolfini, respectfully died in real life in a matter of 2 years, 7 months, 23 days.
14th May '16 9:24:32 AM JC96
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* Any fat joke (either towards Ginny Sack or Tony) because their portrayers, Denise Borino-Quinn and James Gandolfini, respectfully died in real life in a matter of 2 years, 7 months, 23 days.
12th May '16 9:10:18 AM jboone93
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** "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWUW2Vcb_-k Woke Up This Morning]]" by Alabama 3, a song whose tone and lyrics are so perfectly suited to the show that you'll be astonished it wasn't composed for it.

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** "[[http://www."[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWUW2Vcb_-k com/watch?v=nW3LikcBL68 Woke Up This Morning]]" by Alabama 3, a song whose tone and lyrics are so perfectly suited to the show that you'll be astonished it wasn't composed for it.
4th May '16 4:52:29 AM jboone93
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** Massive Genius might be better known to today's audiences as [[Series/Fargo Mike Milligan]].

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** Massive Genius might be better known to today's audiences as [[Series/Fargo [[Series/{{Fargo}} Mike Milligan]].
12th Feb '16 7:35:02 PM Luigifan
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--> '''Carmela''' You wanna train him to be a professional killer?

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--> '''Carmela''' '''Carmela:''' You wanna train him to be a professional killer?



* GenreTurningPoint: For the ''entire medium of television''. Not only did ''Series/TheSopranos'' make {{Creator/HBO}} universally known, it also established that high quality television drama can compete with film and literature in terms of telling artfully constructed, sophisticated stories for adults. ''Series/TheSopranos'' is also credited with demonstrating that shows with complicated, [[ContinuitySnarl continuity-heavy plots]] that didn't spoonfeed information to the audience could be successful--a revelation without which shows like ''Series/TheWire'' and ''Series/GameOfThrones'' would undoubtedly never have been greenlit. This eventually started spreading to basic cable as well, starting with ''Series/MadMen'' (created by a ''Sopranos'' veteran), and most notably executed with ''Series/BreakingBad''. It also made the [[KilledOffForReal deaths of major characters]] a regular device in its storytelling, [[AnyoneCanDie to the point that]] ''[[AnyoneCanDie nobody]]'' [[AnyoneCanDie was completely safe.]] This is now a staple of acclaimed television dramas. While other series had done many of these things before (such as ''Series/BabylonFive''), ''The Sopranos'' brought them all together or was not restricted by something like the SciFiGhetto, allowing to become the turning point for television. All of this has brought about what many consider to be a golden age of dramatic television.

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* GenreTurningPoint: For the ''entire medium of television''. Not only did ''Series/TheSopranos'' make {{Creator/HBO}} universally known, it also established that high quality television drama can compete with film and literature in terms of telling artfully constructed, sophisticated stories for adults. ''Series/TheSopranos'' is also credited with demonstrating that shows with complicated, [[ContinuitySnarl continuity-heavy plots]] that didn't spoonfeed information to the audience could be successful--a successful -- a revelation without which shows like ''Series/TheWire'' and ''Series/GameOfThrones'' would undoubtedly never have been greenlit. This eventually started spreading to basic cable as well, starting with ''Series/MadMen'' (created by a ''Sopranos'' veteran), and most notably executed with ''Series/BreakingBad''. It also made the [[KilledOffForReal deaths of major characters]] a regular device in its storytelling, [[AnyoneCanDie to the point that]] ''[[AnyoneCanDie nobody]]'' [[AnyoneCanDie was completely safe.]] This is now a staple of acclaimed television dramas. While other series had done many of these things before (such as ''Series/BabylonFive''), ''The Sopranos'' brought them all together or was not restricted by something like the SciFiGhetto, allowing it to become the turning point for television. All of this has brought about what many consider to be a golden age of dramatic television.



* HeReallyCanAct: John Heard is best known as the dad from HomeAlone or the RomanticFalseLead from ''Film/{{Big}}.'' However, his arc as DirtyCop Vin Makazian in Season 1 is heartbreaking and even earned him an Emmy nomination.

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* HeReallyCanAct: John Heard is best known as the dad from HomeAlone ''HomeAlone'' or the RomanticFalseLead from ''Film/{{Big}}.'' However, his arc as DirtyCop Vin Makazian in Season 1 is heartbreaking and even earned him an Emmy nomination.



** Ask a room full of TV connoisseurs which is the greatest TV series of all time, ''Series/TheSopranos'', ''Series/TheWire'' or ''Series/BreakingBad''. Go on. Ask.

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** Ask a room full of TV connoisseurs which is the greatest TV series of all time, time: ''Series/TheSopranos'', ''Series/TheWire'' ''Series/TheWire'', or ''Series/BreakingBad''. Go on. Ask.



** Vito. He's a slimy, maneuvering worm, but some part of you just wants him to [[spoiler: stay in New Hampshire and marry NiceGuy Johnnycakes.]]
** Adriana. Almost a ButtMonkey but you'd have to be a cold bastard not to feel some sympathy for her...or a member of the mob.

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** Vito. He's a slimy, maneuvering worm, but some part of you just wants him to [[spoiler: stay [[spoiler:stay in New Hampshire and marry NiceGuy Johnnycakes.]]
** Adriana. Almost a ButtMonkey ButtMonkey, but you'd have to be a cold bastard not to feel some sympathy for her...or a member of the mob.



** Carmela. [[spoiler:Most of the time (due to Tony’s philandering, among other reasons), but particularly in Season 5 where she’s separated from Tony and constantly blamed, berated and generally pushed to breaking point by an adolescent and abusive A.J.]]
** Bobby Baccala. Nobody else compares. [[spoiler: Father killed off one season, his wife the next. And then he ''married Janice.'' Poor bastard. And then Tony goads him in to punching Tony in the mouth. Then Tony forces Bobby (who is not AxCrazy like his comrades) to commit a murder as a punishment.]]

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** Carmela. [[spoiler:Most of the time (due to Tony’s philandering, among other reasons), but particularly in Season 5 5, where she’s separated from Tony and constantly blamed, berated berated, and generally pushed to the breaking point by an adolescent and abusive A.J.]]
** Bobby Baccala. Nobody else compares. [[spoiler: Father [[spoiler:Father killed off one season, his wife the next. And then he ''married Janice.'' Poor bastard. And then Tony goads him in to into punching Tony in the mouth. Then Tony forces Bobby (who is not AxCrazy like his comrades) to commit a murder as a punishment.]]



* MoralEventHorizon: Oh, so many. It is a show about the mob, afterall. In case the whole "lying, cheating, stealing and murdering" thing isn't enough, here are some specific ones:

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* MoralEventHorizon: Oh, so many. It is a show about the mob, afterall. In case the whole "lying, cheating, stealing stealing, and murdering" thing isn't enough, here are some specific ones:



** Richie crossed it with Beansie's brutal paralyzation... just for perceive disrespect. However, his attempts to kill gamblers in a casino ForTheEvulz, just continues with the MoralEventHorizon.

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** Richie crossed it with Beansie's brutal paralyzation... just for perceive disrespect. However, his attempts to kill gamblers in a casino ForTheEvulz, ForTheEvulz just continues with the MoralEventHorizon.



** Dr. Krakower, an aged jewish psycho-therapist that Carmella sees in "Second Opinion", he's in exactly one scene. He accurately tears apart her delusions of Tony being "a good man", and offers some of the most memorable lines in the series.

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** Dr. Krakower, an aged jewish Jewish psycho-therapist that Carmella sees in "Second Opinion", Opinion"; he's in exactly one scene. He accurately tears apart her delusions of Tony being "a good man", and offers some of the most memorable lines in the series.



* SeasonalRot: Varies depending on who you talk to. Seasons 1, 2 and 5 are generally agreed upon as being great. Season 6 (Part 1) and Season 4 generally receive the highest complaint value, though season 4 has its fans.

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* SeasonalRot: Varies depending on who you talk to. Seasons 1, 2 2, and 5 are generally agreed upon as being great. Season 6 (Part 1) and Season 4 generally receive the highest complaint value, though season 4 has its fans.
12th Feb '16 11:48:21 AM GrammarNavi
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: A video game entitled ''The Sopranos: Road to Respect'' was released for the PlayStation2 featuring an original plotline based on notes by David Chase and voiceovers by the TV cast, and while critics praised the story and voice acting, the gameplay was criticized as being shallow and repetitive.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: A video game entitled ''The Sopranos: Road to Respect'' was released for the PlayStation2 UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 featuring an original plotline based on notes by David Chase and voiceovers by the TV cast, and while critics praised the story and voice acting, the gameplay was criticized as being shallow and repetitive.
3rd Feb '16 8:11:50 PM Luigifan
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** Drea de Matteo as Adriana. She went from a being an extra in the pilot and a minor character in the first season to one of the most popular characters and a big hit with critics [[spoiler: especially in season 5 when her storyline came to a head and fans were devastated by the death of the character.]] Drea de Matteo won the Emmy for her performance in that episode.

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** Drea de Matteo as Adriana. She went from a being an extra in the pilot and a minor character in the first season to one of the most popular characters and a big hit with critics [[spoiler: especially [[spoiler:especially in season 5 when her storyline came to a head and fans were devastated by the death of the character.]] Drea de Matteo won the Emmy for her performance in that episode.



** [[spoiler: Paulie]] murdering [[spoiler: an old woman... ''with his bare hands'']].
** [[spoiler: Christopher ratting out Adriana, leading to her murder.]]

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** [[spoiler: Paulie]] [[spoiler:Paulie]] murdering [[spoiler: an [[spoiler:an old woman... ''with his bare hands'']].
** [[spoiler: Christopher [[spoiler:Christopher ratting out Adriana, leading to her murder.]]



** A very debatable one occurs when Ralph gains some sympathy after his son is injured, but it turns out that [[spoiler: he killed Tony's beloved race horse for the insurance money. Debatable because Ralph never actually admits to it and there's no proof that he was responsible. An argument can be made that Tony's love for animals was responsible for how he couldn't see the horse's death as anything but murder, and his dreams in the following episode seem to hint he knew deep down that Ralph may have been innocent in the matter.

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** A very debatable one occurs when Ralph gains some sympathy after his son is injured, but it turns out that [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he killed Tony's beloved race horse for the insurance money. Debatable because Ralph never actually admits to it and there's no proof that he was responsible. An argument can be made that Tony's love for animals was responsible for how he couldn't see the horse's death as anything but murder, and his dreams in the following episode seem to hint he knew deep down that Ralph may have been innocent in the matter. ]]



** A fifteen-year-old Stefani Germanotta--who would later become known to the world as Music/LadyGaga--briefly appears in "The Telltale Moozadell" as one of the girls watching A.J. and his friends vandalize the Verbum Dei swimming pool.

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** A fifteen-year-old Stefani Germanotta--who Germanotta -- who would later become known to the world as Music/LadyGaga--briefly Music/LadyGaga -- briefly appears in "The Telltale Moozadell" as one of the girls watching A.J. and his friends vandalize the Verbum Dei swimming pool.



** [[Series/{{Dexter}} Vince Masuka]] (CS Lee) makes an appearance as the ER doctor who [[spoiler: operates on Tony after he's shot in Season 6]].

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** [[Series/{{Dexter}} Vince Masuka]] (CS Lee) makes an appearance as the ER doctor who [[spoiler: operates [[spoiler:operates on Tony after he's shot in Season 6]].



** Tony's last conversation with [[spoiler: Livia. [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Nancy Marchand's death]] necessitated that the character be written out, so the crew employed CGI to superimpose Marchand's image on another actress' body. It was not convincing]]
* StrawmanHasAPoint:[[spoiler: Although he had Artie's original Vesulvio restaurant burned down, Tony had good reason. Uncle Junior had been planning to stage a hit at Vesuvio on "Little Pussy" Malanga (not to confuse with Salvatore "Big Pussy" Bonpensiero) and wouldn't change it because Malanga was comfortable there and had the hit went down, all of the regular patrons would be permanently chased away. So Tony had the place firebombed to ensure a win-win for both parties (no hit at Vesuvio, and Artie could rebuild it with the pay-out from his insurance policy). Also, Tony kinda saved Artie's reputation.]]

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** Tony's last conversation with [[spoiler: Livia.[[spoiler:Livia. [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Nancy Marchand's death]] necessitated that the character be written out, so the crew employed CGI to superimpose Marchand's image on another actress' body. It was not convincing]]
convincing.]]
* StrawmanHasAPoint:[[spoiler: Although StrawmanHasAPoint: [[spoiler:Although he had Artie's original Vesulvio restaurant burned down, Tony had good reason. Uncle Junior had been planning to stage a hit at Vesuvio on "Little Pussy" Malanga (not to confuse with Salvatore "Big Pussy" Bonpensiero) and wouldn't change it because Malanga was comfortable there and had the hit went down, all of the regular patrons would be permanently chased away. So Tony had the place firebombed to ensure a win-win for both parties (no hit at Vesuvio, and Artie could rebuild it with the pay-out from his insurance policy). Also, Tony kinda saved Artie's reputation.]]
3rd Feb '16 11:05:23 AM AHI-3000
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** Also in Season 6, AJ actually considers joining the Army, but his parents talk him out of it.
14th Jan '16 9:31:43 AM Ramona122003
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* CreatorsPet:
** Vito in season 6. Partly because his big arc was largely filler designed to pad out the first half of season six, due to Chase and HBO wanting to drag out the series for one final batch of episodes which had not yet been written.
** Also Jackie Jr. in season 3.

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* CreatorsPet:
** Vito in season 6. Partly because his big arc was largely filler designed to pad out the first half of season six, due to Chase and HBO wanting to drag out the series for one final batch of episodes which had not yet been written.
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%%* CreatorsPet: Also Jackie Jr. in season 3.
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