History YMMV / TheSecretOfKells

16th Feb '18 4:21:05 PM SorPepita
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Abbot Cellach's obsession with building his wall over preserving the books and his decision to forbid Brendan to go to the forest are portrayed as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided. And there's no doubt that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold he's not the best at expressing his affection towards Brendan]]. However, on the other hand, when Brendan does go into the forest, he's attacked by wolves and would have died if the local representant of the FairFolk didn't come to help him. So the abbot was perfectly justified. Cellach's decision to protect the present (with his wall) instead of the future (the books and their knowledge) can seem justified in a time of invasions. And it's worth mentioning that, had he not lived in a world where Northmen are apparently unstoppable surhuman monsters, an invading army would have thought twice before attacking a heavily fortified location.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Abbot Cellach's obsession with building his wall over preserving the books and his decision to forbid Brendan to go to the forest are portrayed as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided. And there's no doubt that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold he's not the best at expressing his affection towards Brendan]]. However, on the other hand, when Brendan does go into the forest, he's attacked by wolves and would have died if the local representant of the FairFolk didn't come to help him. So the abbot was perfectly justified. Cellach's decision to protect the present (with his wall) instead of the future (the books and their knowledge) can seem justified in a time of invasions. And it's worth mentioning that, had he not lived in a world where Northmen are apparently unstoppable surhuman subhuman monsters, an invading army would have thought twice before attacking a heavily fortified location.
8th Nov '17 2:36:18 AM rufusluciusivan
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Abbot Cellach's obsession with building his wall over preserving the books and his decision to forbid Brendan to go to the forest are portrayed as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided. And there's no doubt that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold he's not the best at expressing his affection towards Brendan]]. However, on the other hand, when Brendan does go into the forest, he's attacked by wolves and would have died if the local representant of the FairFolk didn't come to help him. So the abbot's was perfectly justified. Cellach's decision to protect the present (with his wall) instead of the future (the books and their knowledge) can seem justified in a time of invasions. And it's worth mentioning that, had he not lived in a world where Northmen are apparently unstoppable surhuman monsters, an invading army would have thought twice before attacking a heavily fortified location.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Abbot Cellach's obsession with building his wall over preserving the books and his decision to forbid Brendan to go to the forest are portrayed as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided. And there's no doubt that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold he's not the best at expressing his affection towards Brendan]]. However, on the other hand, when Brendan does go into the forest, he's attacked by wolves and would have died if the local representant of the FairFolk didn't come to help him. So the abbot's abbot was perfectly justified. Cellach's decision to protect the present (with his wall) instead of the future (the books and their knowledge) can seem justified in a time of invasions. And it's worth mentioning that, had he not lived in a world where Northmen are apparently unstoppable surhuman monsters, an invading army would have thought twice before attacking a heavily fortified location.
8th Nov '17 2:35:57 AM rufusluciusivan
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* JerkassWoobie: Abbot Cellach [[spoiler: post-attack.]]

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* JerkassWoobie: Abbot Cellach [[spoiler: post-attack.post-attack, after he's been left broken by his guilt of not being able to protect his people and Brendan.]]


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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Abbot Cellach's obsession with building his wall over preserving the books and his decision to forbid Brendan to go to the forest are portrayed as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided. And there's no doubt that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold he's not the best at expressing his affection towards Brendan]]. However, on the other hand, when Brendan does go into the forest, he's attacked by wolves and would have died if the local representant of the FairFolk didn't come to help him. So the abbot's was perfectly justified. Cellach's decision to protect the present (with his wall) instead of the future (the books and their knowledge) can seem justified in a time of invasions. And it's worth mentioning that, had he not lived in a world where Northmen are apparently unstoppable surhuman monsters, an invading army would have thought twice before attacking a heavily fortified location.
20th May '17 1:05:56 PM Ninja857142
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Despite getting less screen time than Brendan and Aidan, Aisling is by far the most popular character in the film, even finding her way into [[http://www.empireonline.com/features/50-greatest-animated-characters/default.asp?film=45 Empire's list of 50 best animated movie characters]]. Compare the [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/The_Secret_Of_Kells_Promo_Poster.jpg original theatrical poster]] to the [[http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4181888768/tt0485601 post-Oscar one]]. She also had the honour of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtHXICLmaW0 going to the Oscars in 2010]] when the film was nominated for Best Animated Feature.
** WordOfGod says [[http://whitefangkakashi300.deviantart.com/journal/There-and-Back-Again-387372034 here]] that Tomm Moore's thinking of doing a short film on Aisling or Pangur Ban, but he's hesitant about it because of people's head-canons.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Despite getting less screen time than Brendan and Aidan, Aisling is by far the most popular character in the film, even finding her way into [[http://www.empireonline.com/features/50-greatest-animated-characters/default.asp?film=45 Empire's list of 50 best animated movie characters]]. Compare the [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/The_Secret_Of_Kells_Promo_Poster.jpg original theatrical poster]] to the [[http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4181888768/tt0485601 post-Oscar one]]. She also had the honour of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtHXICLmaW0 going to the Oscars in 2010]] when the film was nominated for Best Animated Feature.
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Feature. WordOfGod says [[http://whitefangkakashi300.deviantart.com/journal/There-and-Back-Again-387372034 here]] that Tomm Moore's thinking of doing a short film on Aisling or Pangur Ban, but he's hesitant about it because of people's head-canons.head-canons.
* ItsShortSoItSucks: Perhaps the most common complaint with the film. The movie features a rich story and world with monks, a wall, a sacred book, fairies, Vikings, and an EldritchAbomination, but packs all of it into 75 minutes of screen time.
24th Jul '16 6:23:41 PM ironballs16
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*** And, as mentioned above, the lavish detail the animators paid to the Book of Kells is gorgeous, and looks like it could easily be an excerpt from one of the pages.
24th Jul '16 6:19:53 PM ironballs16
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* AwesomeArt: The entire film is full of beautiful art that at first seems simplistic, but actually has a lot of details when you look closely... [[RealitySubtext much like the art in the Book of Kells itself]].

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* AwesomeArt: The entire film is full of beautiful art that at first seems simplistic, but actually has a lot of details when you look closely... [[RealitySubtext much like the art art]] in the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Kells Book of Kells itself]].
22nd Jun '16 1:31:48 PM ironballs16
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* AwesomeArt: The entire film is full of beautiful art that at first seems simplistic, but actually has a lot of details when you look closely...much like the art in the Book of Kells itself.

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* AwesomeArt: The entire film is full of beautiful art that at first seems simplistic, but actually has a lot of details when you look closely... [[RealitySubtext much like the art in the Book of Kells itself.itself]].



** It's the opening line of the Lord's Prayer in Irish: "Ár nAthair atá ar neamh...". The subtitles on the UK DVD just say ''[Prays in Irish]''.

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** It's the opening line of the Lord's Prayer in Irish: "Ár nAthair atá ar neamh...". The subtitles on the UK DVD just say ''[Prays ''[[EvenTheSubtitlerIsStumped [Prays in Irish]''.Irish]]]''.
17th Mar '15 12:58:23 PM CharlestonMan
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** Aisling is shown to be frightened of the monastery's cross in the courtyard and is unable to enter the tower where Brendan is. Fitting, since she's a fairy and her people are slowly being pushed out and forgotten as Christianity spreads across Ireland. Fairies in Irish folklore were also unable to enter buildings unless specifically invited, thus the use of Pangur Ban to free Brendan from the basement.

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** Aisling is shown to be frightened of the monastery's cross in the courtyard and is unable to enter the tower where Brendan is. Fitting, since she's a fairy and her people are slowly being pushed out and forgotten as Christianity spreads across Ireland. Fairies in Irish folklore were also unable to enter buildings unless specifically invited, thus the use of Pangur Ban to free Brendan from the basement.basement.
* VanillaProtagonist: Brendan, not much to him except that he's nice and brave.
23rd Feb '15 8:16:16 AM Oecchi
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* AwesomeArt
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The entire soundtrack is great, courtesy of composer Bruno Coulais and Irish band Kila, but Aisling's Song is particularly noteworthy and regarded by some as the film's high point.

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* AwesomeArt
AwesomeArt: The entire film is full of beautiful art that at first seems simplistic, but actually has a lot of details when you look closely...much like the art in the Book of Kells itself.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: AwesomeMusic: The entire soundtrack is great, courtesy of composer Bruno Coulais and Irish band Kila, but Aisling's Song is particularly noteworthy and regarded by some as the film's high point.
20th Feb '15 11:32:05 AM theLibrarian
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** Aisling is shown to be frightened of the monastery's cross in the courtyard and is unable to enter the tower where Brendan is. Fitting, since she's a fairy and her people are slowly being pushed out and forgotten as Christianity spreads across Ireland. Fairies in Irish folklore were also able to enter buildings unless specifically invited, thus the use of Pangur Ban to free Brendan from the basement.

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** Aisling is shown to be frightened of the monastery's cross in the courtyard and is unable to enter the tower where Brendan is. Fitting, since she's a fairy and her people are slowly being pushed out and forgotten as Christianity spreads across Ireland. Fairies in Irish folklore were also able unable to enter buildings unless specifically invited, thus the use of Pangur Ban to free Brendan from the basement.
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