History YMMV / TheRedAndTheBlack

15th Jun '16 6:43:05 PM hamza678
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* Marty Stu: Julien Sorel is beautiful, popular/envied and talented to the point of being ridiculous. He is also the center of the story and usually the center of attention. Despite these Marty Stuish traits, the Red and the Black is nevertheless considered a hallmark in the history of the psychologically realistic novel. Together with Murasaki Shikibus Genji Monogatari (which also features a ridiculously attractive, popular and talented protagonist and is considered the first psychologically realistic novel) it demonstrates that you can have a Marty Stu protagonist, at least in some interpretations of the term Marty Stu, and still create great litterature.

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* Marty Stu: MartyStu: Julien Sorel is beautiful, popular/envied and talented to the point of being ridiculous. He is also the center of the story and usually the center of attention. Despite these Marty Stuish traits, the Red and the Black is nevertheless considered a hallmark in the history of the psychologically realistic novel. Together with Murasaki Shikibus Shikibu's Genji Monogatari (which also features a ridiculously attractive, popular and talented protagonist and is considered the first psychologically realistic novel) it demonstrates that you can have a Marty Stu protagonist, at least in some interpretations of the term Marty Stu, and still create great litterature.literature.
5th Jun '15 3:51:33 AM Sensemaker
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* Marty Stu: Julien Sorel is beautiful, popular/envied and talented to the point of being ridiculous. He is also the center of the story and usually the center of attention. Despite these Marty Stuish traits, Genji Monogatari is nevertheless considered a hallmark in the history of the psychologically realistic novel or even the first psychologically realistic novel. Together with Murasaki Shikibus Genji Monogatari (which also features a ridiculously attractive, popular and talented protagonist and is considered the first psychologically realistic novel) it demonstrates that you can have a Marty Stu protagonist, at least in some interpretations of the term Marty Stu, and still create great litterature.

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* Marty Stu: Julien Sorel is beautiful, popular/envied and talented to the point of being ridiculous. He is also the center of the story and usually the center of attention. Despite these Marty Stuish traits, Genji Monogatari the Red and the Black is nevertheless considered a hallmark in the history of the psychologically realistic novel or even the first psychologically realistic novel. Together with Murasaki Shikibus Genji Monogatari (which also features a ridiculously attractive, popular and talented protagonist and is considered the first psychologically realistic novel) it demonstrates that you can have a Marty Stu protagonist, at least in some interpretations of the term Marty Stu, and still create great litterature.
3rd Jun '15 4:49:45 AM Sensemaker
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* Marty Stu: Julien Sorel is beautiful, popular/envied and talented to the point of being ridiculous. He is also the center of the story and usually the center of attention. Despite these Marty Stuish traits, Genji Monogatari is nevertheless considered a hallmark in the history of the psychologically realistic novel or even the first psychologically realistic novel. Together with Murasaki Shikibus Genji Monogatari (which also features a ridiculously attractive, popular and talented protagonist and is considered the first psychologically realistic novel) it demonstrates that you can have a Marty Stu protagonist, at least in some interpretations of the term Marty Stu, and still create great litterature.
15th May '12 5:44:30 PM LordGro
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* VindicatedByHistory: ''The Red and the Black'' was published in 1830; Creator/{{Stendhal}}stated in letters that he was writing books for the 1930s. It was indeed around that time that he was recognized as one of the greatest French writers of the [=XIXth=] century.

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* VindicatedByHistory: ''The Red and the Black'' was published in 1830; Creator/{{Stendhal}}stated Creator/{{Stendhal}} stated in letters that he was writing books for the 1930s. It was indeed around that time that he was recognized as one of the greatest French writers of the [=XIXth=] century.
15th May '12 5:44:20 PM LordGro
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* VindicatedByHistory: ''The Red and the Black'' was published in 1830; Creator/{{Stendhal}}stated in letters that he was writing books for the 1930s. It was indeed around that time that he was recognized as one of the greatest French writers of the [=XIXth=] century.
15th May '12 5:38:01 PM LordGro
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