History YMMV / TheRamones

3rd Jan '17 4:29:39 PM CumbersomeTercel
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** ''Music/EndOfTheCentury,'' produced by no less than Phil Spector and presenting a somewhat LighterAndSofter Ramones.

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** ''Music/EndOfTheCentury,'' produced by no less than Phil Spector Music/PhilSpector and presenting a somewhat LighterAndSofter Ramones.
23rd Nov '16 3:20:48 PM bt8257
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** The band scored a UK top ten hit with their cover of The Ronnetes "Baby I Love You", while the original is pretty much forgotten these days.

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** The band scored a UK top ten hit with their cover of The Ronnetes Ronettes' "Baby I Love You", while the original is pretty much forgotten these days.
23rd Nov '16 3:15:45 PM bt8257
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** The music video of "Pet Sematary" features the band at a cemetery, performing to which a ''tombstone'' is put ontop of them as they're technically buried alive. This is ''worse'' now that Joey, Johnny, and Dee Dee Ramone are gone (Tommy as well tragically, but he wasn't in the band anymore during the time the band recorded ''Brain Drain'').

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** The music video of "Pet Sematary" features the band at a cemetery, performing to which a ''tombstone'' is put ontop on top of them as they're technically buried alive. This is ''worse'' now that Joey, Johnny, and Dee Dee Ramone are gone (Tommy as well tragically, but he wasn't in the band anymore during the time the band recorded ''Brain Drain'').



* {{Narm}}[=/=]SoBadItsGood: Punk rocker Dee Dee Ramone becomes rapper Dee Dee King. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAl-xzN8e-M Hear for yourself Dee Dee's interpretation of hip hop.]] The one album under the Dee Dee King monicker, ''Standing In The Spotlight'' (subtle) was a critical and commercial dud.

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* {{Narm}}[=/=]SoBadItsGood: Punk rocker Dee Dee Ramone becomes rapper Dee Dee King. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAl-xzN8e-M Hear for yourself Dee Dee's interpretation of hip hop.]] The one album under the Dee Dee King monicker, moniker, ''Standing In The Spotlight'' (subtle) was a critical and commercial dud.
17th Nov '16 1:50:38 AM Nick7689
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** The band scored a UK top ten hit with their cover of The Ronnetes "Baby I Love You", while the original is pretty much forgotten these days.
10th Oct '16 5:31:11 AM Nick7689
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* NightmareFuel: The [[http://rock-music.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/front2-945x945.jpg artwork]] for ''Brain Drain''. Yikes!

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The [[http://rock-music.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/front2-945x945.jpg artwork]] for ''Brain Drain''. Yikes!Yikes!
** The absolutely ''hideous'' animated version of the band in the [[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zhz0ME9qVPk music video]] for "Spider-Man".
6th Oct '16 11:55:09 PM NWolfman
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* SnarkBait: Not the band themselves by any means, rather the fact that all of their songs sounded near-identical. A common joke about the band is to say "I love all of their song."
5th Oct '16 5:19:14 AM Nick7689
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** The music video of "Pet Sematary" features the band at a cemetery, performing to which a ''tombstone'' is put ontop of them as they're technically buried alive. This is ''worse'' now that all Joey, Johnny, and Dee Dee Ramone are gone (Tommy as well tragically, but he wasn't in the band anymore during the time the band recorded ''Brain Drain'').

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** The music video of "Pet Sematary" features the band at a cemetery, performing to which a ''tombstone'' is put ontop of them as they're technically buried alive. This is ''worse'' now that all Joey, Johnny, and Dee Dee Ramone are gone (Tommy as well tragically, but he wasn't in the band anymore during the time the band recorded ''Brain Drain'').


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** In "Love Kills" from ''Animal Boy'' (a song Dee Dee wrote about his friend Music/SidVicious and Sid's girlfriend Nancy Spungen), Dee Dee sang this line that practically foretold how he'd pass away years later:
--> ''When you're hooked on heroine\\
Don't you know you'll never win''
10th Sep '16 1:32:48 AM BronyoftheOctaves
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* [[TheWoobie The Ramones Woobies]]: A definitive example of it, although they can all range to IronWoobie. The Ramones were a ''very'' influential band that suffered immense VindicatedByHistory and had very ''bad'' relationships with each other (Joey and Johnny especially), especially as they went on in their lives. The tragedy especially hits hard that after they broke up and only ''after'' the death of Joey did the band get recognition for their influence, which only spread when Dee Dee, Johnny, and Tommy ''decades'' later would pass away. While Marky, C.J. and Ritchie Ramone are still around, the original line up were the true forerunners of punk rock, and the brutal irony of that they put themselves as brothers when they were at each others throats makes it depressing. [[http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/the-curse-of-the-ramones-20160519 Even Rolling Stone noted this and pitied them]].
22nd Aug '16 10:46:25 PM wyattte
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** Their latter-day albums with C. J. Ramone. It's more accurate to say that C. J. himself seems a bit of a BaseBreaker.
*** The same could be said for Richie Ramone.

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** Their latter-day albums with C. J. Ramone. It's more accurate to say that C. J. himself seems a bit of a BaseBreaker.
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BaseBreaker. The same could be said for Richie Ramone.



** Their version of "Surfin' Bird" was this for a long time, though it's up for debate now after the Trashmen's original [[ColbertBump went]] [[MemeticMutation memetic]] after an episode of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy.''
** It takes a truly mighty band to do this to Music/TheBeachBoys, and the Ramones did just that with "Do You Wanna Dance."



* DorkAge: The better part of the 80s, let's face it. They had their moments (most notably the minor classic ''Too Tough To Die'' from 1984) but fans are divided over [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks their heavily produced pop crossovers.]]



* EnsembleDarkHorse: Marky is better remembered as the Ramones' drummer than Tommy.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Marky is better remembered as the Ramones' drummer than Tommy. Also, Dee Dee.
* FaceOfTheBand: Joey Ramone, the voice of generations of disaffected rebels, misfits, and losers.


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* GrowingTheBeard: Sure, ''[[SelfTitledAlbum Ramones]]'' kickstarted punk almost by itself. But critics almost universally agree that ''Rocket To Russia'' was when the band really came into their own, and many prefer the latter album.
17th Aug '16 6:52:28 PM wyattte
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* {{Narm}}: Punk rocker Dee Dee Ramone becomes rapper Dee Dee King. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAl-xzN8e-M Hear for yourself Dee Dee's interpretation of hip hop.]] The one album under the Dee Dee King monicker, ''Standing In The Spotlight'' (subtle) was a critical and commercial dud.

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}[=/=]SoBadItsGood: Punk rocker Dee Dee Ramone becomes rapper Dee Dee King. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAl-xzN8e-M Hear for yourself Dee Dee's interpretation of hip hop.]] The one album under the Dee Dee King monicker, ''Standing In The Spotlight'' (subtle) was a critical and commercial dud.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As with a lot of other punk bands, suffers from this in spades.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As with a lot of other early punk bands, suffers from this in spades.spades. After all manner of harder, faster styles (HardcorePunk for instance) have made their presence known in the ensuing decades, some people may find the early Ramones albums to be a little slow, and would have trouble appreciating how absolutely blistering they would've sounded to listeners in the 70s.
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