History YMMV / ThePunisher

5th Jan '17 8:30:16 PM WickedIcon
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Pretty much a given whenever the character is PlayedForLaughs, but one example from the [[VideoGame/ThePunisher game]] especially qualifies. There's a level at [[ComicBook/IronMan Stark Industries]] where the Punisher essentially tears the entire place to shreds; at the end, [[spoiler: Iron Man himself comes in and sees what Frank did, and ''[[INeedAFreakingDrink it sends him off the wagon.]]'']]

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Pretty much a given whenever the character is PlayedForLaughs, but one example from the [[VideoGame/ThePunisher game]] especially qualifies. There's a level at [[ComicBook/IronMan Stark Industries]] where the Punisher essentially tears the entire place to shreds; at the end, [[spoiler: Iron Man himself comes in and sees what Frank did, and ''[[INeedAFreakingDrink it sends him off the wagon.]]'']]him]] OffTheWagon.'']]
5th Jan '17 8:29:55 PM WickedIcon
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Pretty much a given whenever the character is PlayedForLaughs, but one example from the [[VideoGame/ThePunisher game]] especially qualifies. There's a level at [[ComicBook/IronMan Stark Industries]] where the Punisher essentially tears the entire place to shreds; at the end, [[spoiler: Iron Man himself comes in and sees what Frank did, and ''[[INeedAFreakingDrink it sends him off the wagon.]]'']]
28th Dec '16 5:05:01 PM DrPopo
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: These days it's generally accepted that Frank doesn't kill children or teenagers and if any writer contradicts that, they must hate him (this is commonly said about Frank's appearance in ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' for example). However, back before he even got his first book and was being used by Creator/FrankMiller as a rival and foil to ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}, there was a story where he hunts down and murders a drug dealer stated to be between 13 and 15 years old and then rants how [[NeverMyFault it wasn't him who killed the boy but Crime itself]].
6th Aug '16 12:21:09 AM vexer
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* DorkAge: Angel Punisher was hated by just about everyone, so much so that GarthEnnis hastily retconned it.
13th Jul '16 12:59:11 AM Commander808-2
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The Punisher's willingness to kill made him a novel character when he was first introduced, but thanks to UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, much of this novelty has worn off.
18th Jun '16 4:04:58 PM Anicomicgeek
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: The liberal social worker who Frank meets in one storyline points out that Punisher kills society's victims more often than he kills true villains. He even acknowledges that she has a point when he later confronts a group of murderous homeless and find it difficult to pull the trigger, since most of them are too far gone to understand what they're doing anymore. In an uncharacteristic move, he gives them all a chance to flee, a chance most of them take.
21st Apr '16 6:25:47 PM DarkGidora
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** For instance, in an early appearance, he tried to kill people for running stop signs and littering (this was HandWaved in ''Comicbook/ThePunisherCircleOfBlood'' by saying he had been drugged by Jigsaw to make him more violent and hardline).

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** For instance, in In an early appearance, he tried to kill people for running stop signs and littering (this littering. This was HandWaved by his next appearance in ''Comicbook/ThePunisherCircleOfBlood'' by saying he had been drugged by Jigsaw to make him more violent and hardline).hardline.
24th Mar '16 7:31:32 PM WoozySloth
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** ''Punisher: Year One'' has yet another take on Frank's character - he goes vigilante only after all other methods of bringing the mobsters who killed his family to justice fail spectacularly (the police is ineffective and corrupt; an attempt to do an independent investigation leads only to death of the reporter whom Frank briefly befriended).

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** ''Punisher: Year One'' has yet another take on Frank's character - he goes vigilante only after all other methods of bringing the mobsters who killed his family to justice fail spectacularly (the police is are ineffective and corrupt; an attempt to do an independent investigation leads only to the death of the reporter whom Frank briefly befriended).
5th Mar '16 2:50:28 PM erforce
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* MagnificentBastard: Frank himself. Agree with his methods or not, but either way he is ''damn'' good in what he does. Just try to keep tally of the times where he got out of a seemingly impossible situation or pulled off a complicated plan to get to his target. Occasionally he even outsmarts super-powered beings far more mighty than him. What Reed Richards is to Science and Tony Stark to Mechanics, Frank Castle is to Warfare and Survival.

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* MagnificentBastard: Frank himself. Agree with his methods or not, but either way he is ''damn'' good in what he does. Just try to keep tally of the times where he got out of a seemingly impossible situation or pulled off a complicated plan to get to his target. Occasionally he even outsmarts super-powered beings far more mighty than him. What [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Reed Richards Richards]] is to Science and [[Comicbook/IronMan Tony Stark Stark]] to Mechanics, Frank Castle is to Warfare and Survival.



* MyRealDaddy: He's had a few writers over the years who have done well with the character, though the ones that most readers will think of are [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Grant Steven Grant]], Creator/ChuckDixon, and Creator/GarthEnnis..
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The Punisher's willingness to kill made him a novel character when he was first introduced, thanks to UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks much of this novelty has worn off.
* SequelDisplacement: While Frank was one of Marvel's cash cows back in the early nineties (alongside Spider-Man and Wolverine), many of his modern fans know nothing about his stories before Ennis. Sadly this means that a lot of his gentler characterizations are overlooked, as well as the fact that he actually did have something of a supporting cast.

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* MyRealDaddy: He's had a few writers over the years who have done well with the character, though the ones that most readers will think of are [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Grant Steven Grant]], Creator/ChuckDixon, and Creator/GarthEnnis..
Creator/GarthEnnis.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The Punisher's willingness to kill made him a novel character when he was first introduced, but thanks to UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, much of this novelty has worn off.
* SequelDisplacement: While Frank was one of Marvel's cash cows back in the early nineties (alongside Spider-Man FComicbook/SpiderMan and Wolverine), Comicbook/{{Wolverine}}), many of his modern fans know nothing about his stories before Ennis. Sadly this means that a lot of his gentler characterizations are overlooked, as well as the fact that he actually did have something of a supporting cast.
8th Dec '15 12:40:52 PM Austin
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* WriterOnBoard: Garth Ennis hates conventional superheroes. You cannot help but notice that whenever any of them appears in an issue of the main Punisher series written by him.
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