History YMMV / ThePillarsOfTheEarth

17th Jan '15 6:51:13 PM Eegah
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Is that [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse Peggy Carter]] as a wool baron?
16th Feb '14 12:02:13 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: William Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom Builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage [[spoiler:of her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well.]] William later discovers he is now impotent unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper due.' He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and [[spoiler:attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder personally.]] When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on the wedding night, and beats his wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.

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* CompleteMonster: William Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom Builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage [[spoiler:of her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well.]] William later discovers he is now impotent unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper "proper due.' " He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and [[spoiler:attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder personally.]] When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on the wedding night, and beats his wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.
16th Feb '14 12:01:40 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: William Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage [[spoiler:of her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well.]] William later discovers he is now impotent unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper due.' He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and [[spoiler:attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder personally.]] When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on the wedding night, and beats his wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.

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* CompleteMonster: William Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom builder's Builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage [[spoiler:of her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well.]] William later discovers he is now impotent unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper due.' He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and [[spoiler:attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder personally.]] When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on the wedding night, and beats his wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.
16th Feb '14 12:01:26 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: William of Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage [[spoiler:of her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well.]] William later discovers he is now impotent unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper due.' He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and [[spoiler:attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder personally.]] When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on the wedding night, and beats his wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.

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* CompleteMonster: William of Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage [[spoiler:of her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well.]] William later discovers he is now impotent unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper due.' He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and [[spoiler:attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder personally.]] When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on the wedding night, and beats his wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.
4th Dec '13 3:47:01 PM RMarques
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** Alfred is a sadistic jerk towards Jack from the beginning. He crosses the line when he starts beating Aliena. Poor girl.

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** Alfred is a sadistic jerk towards Jack from the beginning. He crosses the line when he starts beating Aliena. [[spoiler:beating Aliena.]] Poor girl.
4th Dec '13 3:45:04 PM RMarques
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* CompleteMonster: William of Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage of her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well. William later discovers he is now important unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper due.' He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder personally. When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on the wedding night, and beats his wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.

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* CompleteMonster: William of Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage of [[spoiler:of her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well. well.]] William later discovers he is now important impotent unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper due.' He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and attacks [[spoiler:attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder personally. personally.]] When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on the wedding night, and beats his wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.
29th Nov '13 8:09:30 PM adbrown
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** At least in the TV adaptation: Remigius comes off for most of the series as a slimy snake who doesn't care about anyone but himself. It's not until very late that you learn he's [[spoiler:a closeted gay man whose love for another monk led to him confessing to Waleran, and being blackmailed by Waleran into denouncing his lover, resulting in the lover's suicide. Which was then found by Remigius. And followed by Waleran forcing Remigius to castrate himself. With all this in mind, it's not hard to see Remigius as a severely broken man, clinging to obedience to the church as the only thing he has left in life.]] It doesn't make him sympathetic given what a jerkass he is the rest of the time, but perhaps more of a conflicted anti-villain, compensating for his deep fear and misery by hating everyone else.


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** See Anvilicious, above: a big part of the point is the NotSoDifferent nature of the people who want power, and the way it affects the "little people" who are ''actually'' trying to build a better world, rather than a better one for themselves.
16th Sep '13 8:06:33 PM Lightysnake
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* CompleteMonster: William. It's actually faster to list the acts of his that AREN'T heinous, some of them include: nearly kills Tom Builder over wages,[[spoiler: killing the steward Matthew, cutting off Richard's ear, and raping Aliena]], [[spoiler: burning Kingsbridge to the ground for no apparent reason]], [[spoiler: having his soldiers gangrape a prostitute]], [[spoiler: and is impotent on his wedding night until he beats his wife]] so she'll stop SMILING AT HIM.

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* CompleteMonster: William. It's actually faster to list the acts William of his that AREN'T heinous, Hamleigh begins as an arrogant, boorish young aristocrat with some sketchy ideas about a woman's consent whose nastiness is shown when he threatens Tom builder's life in an argument over wages Tom is fairly owed. After his fiancee Aliena breaks their engagement, William takes advantage of them include: nearly kills her father being deposed as Earl of Shiring to rape her, murdering her faithful steward and forcing her younger brother to watch before allowing his groom to rape her as well. William later discovers he is now important unless he commits violence, as seen when he beats and rapes a prostitute. William soon becomes Earl and becomes a scourge to the people: brutalizing and raping when he isn't given his 'proper due.' He fixates on Aliena, doing everything he can to ruin her life further and attacks the town of Kingsbridge, burning and killing, causing the death of Tom Builder over wages,[[spoiler: killing the steward Matthew, cutting off Richard's ear, and raping Aliena]], [[spoiler: burning Kingsbridge to the ground for no apparent reason]], [[spoiler: having his soldiers gangrape a prostitute]], [[spoiler: and is personally. When he finally gets married, William finds himself impotent on his the wedding night until he night, and beats his wife]] so she'll stop SMILING AT HIM.wife bloody when she gives him a reassuring smile over it.
7th Jun '13 6:33:18 PM TVRulezAgain
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* CompleteMonster: William.

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* CompleteMonster: William. It's actually faster to list the acts of his that AREN'T heinous, some of them include: nearly kills Tom Builder over wages,[[spoiler: killing the steward Matthew, cutting off Richard's ear, and raping Aliena]], [[spoiler: burning Kingsbridge to the ground for no apparent reason]], [[spoiler: having his soldiers gangrape a prostitute]], [[spoiler: and is impotent on his wedding night until he beats his wife]] so she'll stop SMILING AT HIM.
8th Oct '12 10:39:50 AM petersohn
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The book doesn't let you slip through any detail, including the morals.
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