History YMMV / TheOutsiders

21st Oct '16 5:41:47 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* TearJerker: Johnny's [[spoiler:death.]] And later, Dallas's [[spoiler:death]] because Johnny was the only thing he really cared about. The movie portrays this excellently.
5th Sep '16 1:43:37 PM SaraJaye
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** [[JustifiedTrope Potentially justified.]][[spoiler:FridgeBrilliance: The book is written from Ponyboy's perspective when he is still a young man. ]][[NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead He probably doesn't want to say anything bad about his fallen friend.]]

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** [[JustifiedTrope Potentially justified.]][[spoiler:FridgeBrilliance: ]][[FridgeBrilliance The book is written from Ponyboy's perspective when he is still a young man. man.]][[NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead He probably doesn't want to say anything bad about his fallen friend.]]
5th Sep '16 1:43:18 PM SaraJaye
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** [[JustifiedTrope Potentially justified.]][[FridgeBrilliance: The book is written from Ponyboy's perspective when he is still a young man. ]][[NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead He probably doesn't want to say anything bad about his fallen friend.]]

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** [[JustifiedTrope Potentially justified.]][[FridgeBrilliance: ]][[spoiler:FridgeBrilliance: The book is written from Ponyboy's perspective when he is still a young man. ]][[NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead He probably doesn't want to say anything bad about his fallen friend.]]
3rd Sep '16 8:21:18 PM DVB
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** [[JustifiedTrope Potentially justified.]][[FridgeBrilliance: The book is written from Ponyboy's perspective when he is still a young man. ]][[NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead He probably doesn't want to say anything bad about his fallen friend.]]
23rd Aug '16 9:22:44 AM JC96
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* DeathByIrony: [[spoiler: Bob was killed by Johnny, the same kid he and other Socs badly beat to a pulp]]
8th May '16 10:18:53 AM TrollBrutal
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* IdiotPlot: After killing Bob, instead of going on the run and hiding from the police (as if THEY did anything bad), Johnny and Ponyboy could have just gone to the police, turned themselves in, explained that Johnny killed Bob to protect Ponyboy, and counter sued the socs. By going into hiding, Johnny and Ponyboy got themselves into a lot of trouble that could have easily been avoided if they had just explained that it was a killing done in defense of another person.
** Except, of course, that it's their word against the social elites of the towns who probably have parents with greater influence and funds than they do. At best, the police would have a hard time believing them and, at worst, they would put them in prison.
** Their guilt would have to have been proven beyond any doubt. Money would not matter. At the end, there is a trial, and Ponyboy is found not guilty (and presumably the socs were imprisoned).
** Innocent until proven guilty. Thing is, the set up can easily be spun into a bad scenario in a courtroom. Johnny's knocked around by his parents and hangs with violent hoodlums, one in particular, Dallas Winston. One night he takes his anger out on two "well-mannered, well-behaved rich kids who were in the wrong place at the wrong time." The quotation isn't true from the reader's perspectives, but it would look terrible in court. Because of the social divide between the two, the Greaser kids thought they wouldn't get a fair trial and debatedly, they wouldn't. It's hard to argue between kids who look and act like thugs and kids who hide their delinquency behind their money.
** Also, keep in mind that Johnny and Ponyboy are still relatively young, pretty much kids, almost. Of course they're not going to think that maybe they can explain things to the police. Also, remember Dally was the one who told them to run away. ''Dally'', the first person they went to, and the last person, Greaser or no, who would ever suggest that they go to the police.
** Additionally, innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply here. Fact: Johnny did kill someone. His claim of self-defense is an affirmative defense, meaning that ''he'' has to prove that he was defending himself and his friend or else he goes to prison.
12th Mar '16 7:07:06 PM esq263
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** Additionally, innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply here. Fact: Johnny did kill someone. His claim of self-defense is an affirmative defense, meaning that ''he'' has to prove that he was defending himself and his friend or else he goes to prison.
7th Nov '15 11:08:46 PM whisperstar13
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** Also, keep in mind that Johnny and Ponyboy are still relatively young, pretty much kids, almost. Of course they're not going to think that maybe they can explain things to the police. Also, remember Dally was the one who told them to run away. ''Dally'', the first person they went to, and the last person, Greaser or no, who would ever suggest that they go to the police.
7th Sep '15 6:17:50 PM rjd1922
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* HilariousInHindsight: Our protagonists name is Ponyboy. Around fifty years later in 2010, we see MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic and its well-known fanbase with adult men and teenage boys.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Our protagonists name is Ponyboy. Around fifty years later in 2010, we see MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic '''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' and its well-known fanbase with adult men and teenage boys.
21st Jul '15 10:32:03 AM M3
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** Innocent until proven guilty. Thing is, the set up can easily be spun into a bad scenario in a courtroom. Johnny's knocked around by his parents and hangs with violent hoodlums, one in particular, Dallas Winston. One night he takes his anger out on two "well-mannered, well-behaved rich kids who were in the wrong place at the wrong time." The quotation isn't true from the reader's perspectives, but it would look terrible in court. Because of the social divide between the two, the Greaser kids thought they wouldn't get a fair trial and debatedly, they wouldn't. It's hard to argue between kids who look and act like thugs and kids who hide their delinquency behind their money.
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