History YMMV / TheMuppetMovie

25th Jan '17 7:11:09 PM LadyNorbert
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** Jim Henson once said that they wanted Gonzo to dream of being a movie star at the least likely of places, unaware until the film was completed that India produces more movies per year than Hollywood.
** Kermit's reasoning for not doing the frog leg ad, is because he can imagine [[AnArmAndALeg frogs with tiny crutches.]] Years later his Nephew Robin plays the crutch toting Tiny Tim in TheMuppetChristmasCarol.
** It only took 40 years, but Western stars are [[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/Top-10-foreign-actresses-in-Bollywood/photostory/24691995.cms finally making it big in Bollywood,]] making this exchange that much funnier.

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** *** Jim Henson once said that they wanted Gonzo to dream of being a movie star at the least likely of places, unaware until the film was completed that India produces more movies per year than Hollywood.
** Kermit's reasoning for not doing the frog leg ad, is because he can imagine [[AnArmAndALeg frogs with tiny crutches.]] Years later his Nephew Robin plays the crutch toting Tiny Tim in TheMuppetChristmasCarol.
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*** It only took 40 years, but Western stars are [[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/Top-10-foreign-actresses-in-Bollywood/photostory/24691995.cms finally making it big in Bollywood,]] making this exchange that much funnier.



* MoralEventHorizon: Crossed by Doc Hopper during the climax. "All right, boys... kill 'em."

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** Kermit's reasoning for not doing the frog leg ad is because he can imagine [[AnArmAndALeg frogs with tiny crutches.]] Years later, his nephew Robin plays the crutch-toting Tiny Tim in ''Film/TheMuppetChristmasCarol''.
* MoralEventHorizon: Crossed by Doc Hopper during the climax. "All right, boys... kill 'em.'im."



** also the idea of Doc Hopper threatening Kermit and wanting to make him a frog burger is really unsettling.

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** also Also, the idea of Doc Hopper threatening Kermit and wanting to make him a frog burger is really unsettling.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Downplayed. It isn't ''in''appropriate for children or families, but is clearly meant to be viewed as any other Hollywood feature which just happens to star puppets (indeed, Jim Henson himself always saw the Muppets as more of a theater troupe than as characters). Still, it was not an easy pitch to sell.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Downplayed. It isn't ''in''appropriate for children or families, but is clearly meant to be viewed as any other Hollywood feature which just happens to star puppets (indeed, Jim Henson himself always saw the Muppets as more of a theater troupe than as characters). Still, it was not an easy pitch to sell.sell.
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12th Jan '17 11:31:34 PM NWolfman
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** Plus Kermit in the swamp, which was created by the 6'1" Jim Henson cramming himself into a diving bell for a whole day.

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** Plus Kermit in the swamp, which was created by the 6'1" Jim Henson cramming himself into a diving bell for a whole day.day.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Downplayed. It isn't ''in''appropriate for children or families, but is clearly meant to be viewed as any other Hollywood feature which just happens to star puppets (indeed, Jim Henson himself always saw the Muppets as more of a theater troupe than as characters). Still, it was not an easy pitch to sell.
7th Oct '16 12:56:51 AM TropesForever
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* SoBadItsGood: Doc Hopper's ad.
29th Aug '16 9:34:51 PM AnotherGuy
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** Also, keep in mind that in 1980, wine made in places other than France or Italy or whatever (for example, California wine) was seen as a joke or mediocre. Nowadays, it's different. That said, to most folks outside of Idaho, ''wine'' is not something that comes to mind when that state is mentioned.

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** Also, keep in mind that in 1980, wine made in places other than France or Italy or whatever (for example, California wine) was seen as a joke or mediocre. Nowadays, it's different. That said, to most folks outside of Idaho, ''wine'' is not something that comes to mind when that state is mentioned. [Hint: The state license plate says "Famous Potatoes".] Additionally, the wine bottle had a ''bottle cap''.
24th Jul '16 8:59:41 AM wittylibrarian
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-->''Life's like a movie\\
Write your own ending\\
Keep believing\\
Keep pretending\\
We done just what we set out to do\\
Thanks to the lovers\\
The dreamers\\
and YOU!''
12th Jul '16 3:22:32 AM Clamanath
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** Frank Oz actually wanted Hopper to be redeemed at the end, but Henson overruled him.

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** Frank Oz Jim Henson actually wanted Hopper to be redeemed at the end, but Henson Oz overruled him.
24th Jun '16 8:29:07 AM MrDeath
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** It only took 40 years, but Western stars are [[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/Top-10-foreign-actresses-in-Bollywood/photostory/24691995.cms finally making it big in Bollywood,]] making this exchange that much funnier.
-->'''Gonzo:''' I always wanted to go to [[UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}} Bombay, India]], and become a movie star.
-->'''Fozzie:''' You don't go to Bombay to become a movie star. You go where we're going, Hollywood!
-->'''Gonzo:''' Sure, if you want to do it the ''easy'' way.
-->'''Fozzie:''' We've picked up a weirdo.



* VindicatedByHistory:
-->'''Gonzo:''' I always wanted to go to [[UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}} Bombay, India]], and become a movie star.
-->'''Fozzie:''' You don't go to Bombay to become a movie star. You go where we're going, Hollywood!
-->'''Gonzo:''' Sure, if you want to do it the ''easy'' way.
-->'''Fozzie:''' We've picked up a weirdo.
** It only took 40 years, but Western stars are [[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/Top-10-foreign-actresses-in-Bollywood/photostory/24691995.cms finally making it big in Bollywood.]]
24th Jun '16 8:06:25 AM spydre
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** It only took 40 years, but Western stars are [http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/Top-10-foreign-actresses-in-Bollywood/photostory/24691995.cms finally making it big in Bollywood.]

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** It only took 40 years, but Western stars are [http://timesofindia.[[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/Top-10-foreign-actresses-in-Bollywood/photostory/24691995.cms finally making it big in Bollywood.]]]
24th Jun '16 8:05:57 AM spydre
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* VindicatedByHistory:
-->'''Gonzo:''' I always wanted to go to [[UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}} Bombay, India]], and become a movie star.
-->'''Fozzie:''' You don't go to Bombay to become a movie star. You go where we're going, Hollywood!
-->'''Gonzo:''' Sure, if you want to do it the ''easy'' way.
-->'''Fozzie:''' We've picked up a weirdo.
** It only took 40 years, but Western stars are [http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/Top-10-foreign-actresses-in-Bollywood/photostory/24691995.cms finally making it big in Bollywood.]
17th Jun '16 10:38:57 PM erforce
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Alas, many of the jokes and wackiness have been copied by countless followers (both ''[[Film/{{Gremlins}} Gremlins 2: The New Batch]]'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongebobSquarepantsMovie'' have done meta gags about their films being watched in theaters, for example), that, to anyone watching the film for the first time, it might seem less remarkable.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Alas, many of the jokes and wackiness have been copied by countless followers (both ''[[Film/{{Gremlins}} Gremlins 2: The New Batch]]'' ''Film/Gremlins2TheNewBatch'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongebobSquarepantsMovie'' have done meta gags about their films being watched in theaters, for example), that, to anyone watching the film for the first time, it might seem less remarkable.
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