History YMMV / TheMistsOfAvalon

12th Apr '16 10:56:17 AM GothicProphet
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* {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}: Viviane wants to save Avalon, but the methods she uses are highly unorthodox.

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* {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}: WellIntentionedExtremist: Viviane wants to save Avalon, but the methods she uses are highly unorthodox.unorthodox.
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29th Sep '15 2:23:04 PM Tianzi
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* DamselScrappy: Gwenhwyfar can be ''annoying''. Although it's probably intentional, given what a Strawman Christian she is and the narration leaning toward RealWomenNeverWearDresses.



* {{Squick}}: In the book, while Morgaine is preparing to greet the Horned King, she Sees that the little girl who scattered blood on the fields is being ''raped'' by a sinewy old hunter. And Morgaine is apparently cool with this? Oh, and about a page later she realizes she's had sex with [[spoiler: ''her own brother.'']]

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* {{Squick}}: {{Squick}}:
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In the book, while Morgaine is preparing to greet the Horned King, she Sees that the little girl who scattered blood on the fields is being ''raped'' by a sinewy old hunter. And Morgaine is apparently cool with this? Oh, and about a page later she realizes she's had sex with [[spoiler: ''her own brother.'']]


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** As if [[spoiler:Meleagar's rape of Gwenhwyfar]] wasn't horrific enough, [[FridgeHorror it's never proved that he wasn't her half-brother after all]].
10th Sep '15 8:26:55 AM Morgenthaler
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In regards to feminist treatment of the Arthurian legend. Nowadays, there are a fair amount of retellings from a female perspective (such as ''{{Gwenhwyfar}}'' and ''[[https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/nancy-springer/i-am-morgan-le-fay/ I am Morgan Le Fay]]''), many of which take a less [[{{Anvilicious}} heavy-handed]] approach than ''The Mists of Avalon''. It's easy to forget how groundbreaking [=TMoA=] was, in spite of its flaws.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In regards to feminist treatment of the Arthurian legend. Nowadays, there are a fair amount of retellings from a female perspective (such as ''{{Gwenhwyfar}}'' ''Literature/{{Gwenhwyfar}}'' and ''[[https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/nancy-springer/i-am-morgan-le-fay/ I am Morgan Le Fay]]''), many of which take a less [[{{Anvilicious}} heavy-handed]] approach than ''The Mists of Avalon''. It's easy to forget how groundbreaking [=TMoA=] was, in spite of its flaws.
28th Mar '15 5:25:52 PM Ingonyama
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* JerkSue: Morgaine comes off as this, mostly due to ProtagonistCenteredMorality; she does some pretty JerkAss-y things [[spoiler: such as cheating on her husband with his son]], but the text never really calls her out on it. Possibly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] by the fact that Bradley wrote the book largely to make Morgan Le Fay sympathetic; she just did it [[{{Anvilicious}} in a rather unsubtle fashion]].



* JerkSue: Morgaine comes off as this, mostly due to ProtagonistCenteredMorality; she does some pretty JerkAss-y things [[spoiler: such as cheating on her husband with his son]], but the text never really calls her out on it. Possibly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] by the fact that Bradley wrote the book largely to make Morgan Le Fay sympathetic; she just did it [[{{Anvilicious}} in a rather unsubtle fashion]].
29th Sep '14 9:37:55 AM BeatrixKiddo
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** HarsherInHindsight: This revelation makes the dynamic between Viviane and Morgaine (especially regarding the Beltane ritual) ''so much creepier''.
18th Aug '14 7:28:27 AM Eegah
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* OvershadowedByControversy: In 2014, Bradley's daughter went public with the fact that she had been molested by both her parents during her childhood, and she was far from the only one, suddenly putting her in the same company as Roman Polanski and Woody Allen regarding the debate over how much of an artist's own life should impact the judgement of their work.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: In 2014, Bradley's daughter went public with the fact that she had been molested by both her parents during her childhood, and she was far from the only one, suddenly putting her Bradley in the same company as Roman Polanski and Woody Allen regarding the debate over how much of an artist's own life should impact the judgement of their work.
17th Aug '14 10:00:44 AM Eegah
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* OvershadowedByControversy: In 2014, Bradley's daughter went public with the fact that she had been molested by both her parents during her childhood, and she was far from the only one, suddenly putting her in the same company as Roman Polanski and Woody Allen regarding the debate over how much of an artist's own life should impact the judgement of their work.
9th Oct '13 8:19:10 AM eleutherios
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* HoYay: Arthur and Lancelot. Adds quite a different spin to the traditional love triangle...
4th Oct '13 11:43:58 PM eleutherios
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Christianity is bad (at the very least, the priests are bad), and Goddess-centric nature worship is good.
** DesignatedVillain: Bishop Patricius. Sure sure, he was very lawful and by-the book; but did he really deserve such a negative portrayal?

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Christianity is bad (at the very least, the priests Religious extremism and intolerance are bad), bad, inclusive spirituality and Goddess-centric nature worship is good.
** DesignatedVillain: Bishop Patricius. Sure sure, he was very lawful and by-the book; but did he really deserve such a negative portrayal?
freedom of religion are good.
17th Jun '13 6:16:10 PM Scandia
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* {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}: Vivane wants to save Avalon, but the methods she uses are highly unorthodox.

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* {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}: Vivane Viviane wants to save Avalon, but the methods she uses are highly unorthodox.
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