History YMMV / TheMightyThor

24th Apr '16 9:02:37 AM Doc_Loki
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* ArcFatigue: Two causes in Jason Aaron's run:
** More than two years after his introduction, Dario Agger is still yet to have a hammer wipe that smug grin off his face.
** We still don't know what made Thor unworthy.


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** Notably, Balder keeps falling for this again and again throughout JMS's run.


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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Future!Thor and his badass grand-daughters have hardly been seen since the introduction of the new Thor.
13th Mar '16 7:33:51 PM WanderingBrowser
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%%* CrazyAwesome: The Warriors Three.
%%* CreepyAwesome: Malekith The Accursed, DependingOnTheWriter.

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%%* * CrazyAwesome: The Warriors Three.
%%* * CreepyAwesome: Malekith The Accursed, DependingOnTheWriter.DependingOnTheWriter. He's an undead dark elf depicted as [[TwoFaced half blue-skinned elf down one side of his body and half black-with-rot corpse or living shadow down the other]], wielding powerful sorcery and an almost Loki-like skilled planner and manipulator.


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* FandomNod: More of a "Controversy Nod", but, in issue 5 of the female Thor series, Absorbing Man goes on a multi-panel rant about female Thor's status as an AffirmativeActionLegacy character, with a particular focus on how she could have given herself a "derivative" or "homaging" name instead of directly taking the name of the original.
14th Jan '16 5:02:27 AM Malitia
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** KidLoki became one very quickly, and eventually, Teen Loki.

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** KidLoki [[Comicbook/JourneyIntoMystery Kid Loki]] became one very quickly, and eventually, Teen Loki.[[Comicbook/YoungAvengers Teen]] [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard Loki]].
14th Jan '16 4:59:20 AM Malitia
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* AssPull: How and why [[Comicbook/Thor2014 Female Thor]] replaces Male Thor. Nick Fury whispers something to Thor, rendering him unworthy to pick up Mjolnir, then Mjolnir became sentient to the point where not even Odin, the one who put the "worthy enchantment" on the hammer, can lift it, and suddenly a woman shows up on the moon and is able to lift the hammer effortlessly, and wield it like a god(dess) with no difficulty.

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* AssPull: How and why [[Comicbook/Thor2014 [[Comicbook/{{Thor2014}} Female Thor]] replaces Male Thor. Nick Fury whispers something to Thor, rendering him unworthy to pick up Mjolnir, then Mjolnir became sentient to the point where not even Odin, the one who put the "worthy enchantment" on the hammer, can lift it, and suddenly a woman shows up on the moon and is able to lift the hammer effortlessly, and wield it like a god(dess) with no difficulty.
14th Jan '16 4:58:50 AM Malitia
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* {{Anvilicious}}:
** When the new female Thor picked up Thor's hammer, the inscription placed on it transformed from "If he be worthy" to "If '''''s'''he'' be worthy", just to [[{{pun}} hammer]] home that it's not just men who can wield it.
** Titania is shown as suddenly having a problem with fighting other women when she meets the female Thor, when her very introduction was as an antagonist of ComicBook/SheHulk and she had no such issues there.
* ArcFatigue: The mystery of the female Thor's real identity dragged ''on and on and on''. Most people stopped caring by the time it was revealed to be [[spoiler: Jane Foster]]. Didn't help that those issues [[FourLinesAllWaiting juggled two more plotlines]], namely Odin's quest to get back the hammer no matter what (failed) ''and'' Malekith's dealings to get Laufey resurrected (succeeded).
* AssPull: How and why Female Thor replaces Male Thor. Nick Fury whispers something to Thor, rendering him unworthy to pick up Mjolnir, then Mjolnir became sentient to the point where not even Odin, the one who put the "worthy enchantment" on the hammer, can lift it, and suddenly a woman shows up on the moon and is able to lift the hammer effortlessly, and wield it like a god(dess) with no difficulty.

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* {{Anvilicious}}:
** When the new female Thor picked up Thor's hammer, the inscription placed on it transformed from "If he be worthy" to "If '''''s'''he'' be worthy", just to [[{{pun}} hammer]] home that it's not just men who can wield it.
** Titania is shown as suddenly having a problem with fighting other women when she meets the female Thor, when her very introduction was as an antagonist of ComicBook/SheHulk and she had no such issues there.
* ArcFatigue: The mystery of the female Thor's real identity dragged ''on and on and on''. Most people stopped caring by the time it was revealed to be [[spoiler: Jane Foster]]. Didn't help that those issues [[FourLinesAllWaiting juggled two more plotlines]], namely Odin's quest to get back the hammer no matter what (failed) ''and'' Malekith's dealings to get Laufey resurrected (succeeded).
* AssPull: How and why [[Comicbook/Thor2014 Female Thor Thor]] replaces Male Thor. Nick Fury whispers something to Thor, rendering him unworthy to pick up Mjolnir, then Mjolnir became sentient to the point where not even Odin, the one who put the "worthy enchantment" on the hammer, can lift it, and suddenly a woman shows up on the moon and is able to lift the hammer effortlessly, and wield it like a god(dess) with no difficulty.



** The fact that Jason Aaron [[AuthorAppeal likes]] to write Thor as MysteryFiction (God of Thunder 1st arc: serial killer investigation, 3rd arc: hunt after an escaped criminal, Thor v4 1st arc: the mystery of the Goddess of Thunder, Thors: serial killer investigation) sometimes works for people other times not so much.

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** The fact that Jason Aaron [[AuthorAppeal likes]] to write Thor as MysteryFiction (God of Thunder 1st arc: serial killer investigation, 3rd arc: hunt after an escaped criminal, Thor {{Comicbook/Thor|2014}} v4 1st arc: the mystery of the Goddess of Thunder, Thors: [[Comcibook/SecretWars2015 Thors]]: serial killer investigation) sometimes works for people other times not so much.



** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix[[note]]As the book sold pretty solidly around 20 000 physical copies that's a sizeable reader base, and many of them gave Marvel the benefit of the doubt but see for example the YMMV on Comicbook/AForce how they got burned[[/note]].



* CriticalDissonance: Professional critics seem to love the new Female Thor. Fan response, however, has been much more divisive.
* DontShootTheMessage: A number of feminist readers have expressed this view concerning the new Thor. Female superheroes ''do'' need more prominence and respect given how disproportionate the gender balance is and female readers need more characters to identify with. However, Jason Aaron's [[ReplacementScrappy handling of the character]], [[ArcFatigue the story]], [[TakeThatCritics the response to criticisms]], and multiple other points spoil it, and many are concerned that its going to just fuel misogynistic sentiment among the fandom.



* {{Narm}}:
** Vol. 4, issue 3, which includes meta-subtext in a fight between Absorbing Man and female Thor, Titania's refusing to fight Thor because "girls need to stick together", and she and Thor designating Odin as an {{expy}} of "[[TheMan The Patriarchy]]".
** The fact that the original, male Thor has since stopped using his name altogether and instead just calls himself by his epithet, Odinson. In times past it might have been used as just a nickname, but discarding his given name in favor of it is not all that dramatic since it accompanies the ascension of the female Thor and just highlights how ridiculous the whole situation is.
** Issue 7 of that same volume apparently thinks "environmentalist with a gun" is a badass description for Roz Solomon.
** Dario Agger's rapid descent into becoming a ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanet''-tier villain whose schemes involve things like trying to increase the revenue of Roxxon's salmon hatcheries by wiping the species out in the wild through the use of genetically-altered bears that are conditioned to eat themselves to death.



* ReplacementScrappy: Due to many readers preferring the original Thor to continue helming the book, Female Thor was this before her story even started. There's issue about her using the name (Unlike Steve Rogers and Captain America, Thor is the character's legitimate name), the controversial set-up to have Thor lose his hammer (an ''Original Sin'' plot point that kidna came out of nowhere and hasn't been explained), and the design of her costume.



** The new Thor, at least to some, became this when they revealed she was [[spoiler: Jane Foster, fighting cancer]], due largely because it added a lot of depth to the character and because it finally put one serious source of ArcFatigue to rest.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: Absorbing Man is depicted as a [[StrawMisogynist misogynist jerk]] for objecting to female Thor using the title, but many fans thought that he had a sensible argument, namely that Female Thor should forge her own identity rather than riding Thor's coattails.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some of the reactions to the new female Thor.
9th Jan '16 3:29:43 PM CL
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** Dario Agger's rapid descent into becoming a ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanet''-tier villain whose schemes involve things like trying to increase the revenue of Roxxon's salmon hatcheries by wiping the species out in the wild through the use of genetically-altered bears that are conditioned to eat themselves to death.
8th Jan '16 8:58:38 AM Malitia
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** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix[[note]]As the title still sold solidly around 20 000 physical copies (the "maybe we should ''begin'' pondering the cancellation or relaunch" point generally) by the last issue (#17) that's a sizeable reader base, and many of these people already gave the benefit of the doubt to Marvel (see YMMV on Comicbook/AForce for an example how they got burned)[[/note]].

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** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix[[note]]As the title still book sold pretty solidly around 20 000 physical copies (the "maybe we should ''begin'' pondering the cancellation or relaunch" point generally) by the last issue (#17) that's a sizeable reader base, and many of these people already them gave Marvel the benefit of the doubt to Marvel (see but see for example the YMMV on Comicbook/AForce for an example how they got burned)[[/note]].burned[[/note]].
8th Jan '16 12:37:16 AM Malitia
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** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix[note]As the title still sold solidly around 20 000 physical copies by the last issue (#17) (that's the "maybe we should ''begin'' pondering the cancellation or relaunch" point generally) that's a sizeable reader base, and many of these people already gave the benefit of the doubt to Marvel (see YMMV on Comicbook/AForce for an example how they got burned).[/note].

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** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix[note]As fix[[note]]As the title still sold solidly around 20 000 physical copies by the last issue (#17) (that's the (the "maybe we should ''begin'' pondering the cancellation or relaunch" point generally) by the last issue (#17) that's a sizeable reader base, and many of these people already gave the benefit of the doubt to Marvel (see YMMV on Comicbook/AForce for an example how they got burned).[/note].burned)[[/note]].
8th Jan '16 12:34:59 AM Malitia
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** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix.

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** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix.fix[note]As the title still sold solidly around 20 000 physical copies by the last issue (#17) (that's the "maybe we should ''begin'' pondering the cancellation or relaunch" point generally) that's a sizeable reader base, and many of these people already gave the benefit of the doubt to Marvel (see YMMV on Comicbook/AForce for an example how they got burned).[/note].
7th Jan '16 11:52:53 PM Malitia
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** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared.

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** The ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel relaunch's handling of Loki. Both in regards to Loki's design (where he's regained his second horn and gloves but still has a torn jacket, and has gained PermaStubble when Loki's typically been clean shaven, and is now explicitly an adult when previously appeared to be in a young adult form) and his characterization (where its teased he might be returning to villainy, but its not clear if this is just Loki tricking the villains), has been devisive between those who are glad to have Loki back and enjoy the way he's being handled, and those (mostly fans of ''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'') who are less thrilled with how he appears to have forgoed the character development from that run and the differing characterization between now and how God of Stories Loki appeared. Really didn't help that Loki:[=AoA=] was one of the titles stealth cancelled (read: ended without an official word about it to this day) before the relaunch and also one without a clear follow-up giving its fans the impression that Marvel ''expects'' them to pick up the new Thor title for their Loki fix.
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