History YMMV / TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe

5th Sep '15 10:19:32 AM OffTheDeepEnd
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** Edmund, while the White Witch's prisoner.


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** JerkassWoobie: Edmund, while the White Witch's prisoner. It's during this point that he actually redeems himself.
1st Jul '15 4:04:09 PM ZeldaQueen64
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** It's even worse to watch in the 2005 movie, where we get to see the incredibly sad and scared look in his eyes as he's stabbed. Not to mention also seeing Susan and Lucy hidden away, watching the whole thing while sobbing their eyes out and then trying to clean up the body after.
** In the 2005 movie, the girls find Mr. Tumnus's petrified body before they know Aslan can change him back. Poor Lucy's just as upset as you'd think, sobbing against Susan.
31st May '15 1:25:40 PM eowynjedi
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* FairForItsDay: Lewis has taken a lot of flak for his ValuesDissonance-laden statement that "battles are ugly when women fight." But other books do show that Susan and Lucy and Jill Pole are capable enough to hold their own in a battle. Even the U.S. Military didn't allow women in combat zones until the 1990s, and not in direct combat at all until ''2013''. MenAreTheExpendableGender, after all.

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* FairForItsDay: Lewis has taken a lot of flak for his ValuesDissonance-laden statement that "battles are ugly when women fight." But other books do show that Susan and Lucy and Jill Pole are capable enough to hold their own in a battle. Even the U.S. Military didn't allow women in combat zones until the 1990s, and not in direct combat at all until ''2013''. (Technically, anyway; in practice, lack of clear battle zones meant women were fighting anyhow.) MenAreTheExpendableGender, after all.


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* WhatAnIdiot: In the 2005 film, Susan starts arguing with Peter over whether or not the huge, menacing wolf at the head of the Witch's SecretPolice is really their enemy, even agreeing with Maugrim that Peter should drop the sword (that he was given by Father Christmas, of all people). Bonus points for taking this patently ridiculous stance while they're trying to cross a river that's melting under their feet.
14th Nov '14 10:02:21 PM WhizzerMckwoff
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:Aslan's death, especially since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're familiar with the Bible.]]

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* TearJerker: [[spoiler:Aslan's death, especially death on the first read, and even on further readings since the scene is a symbol of Jesus' death and resurrection if you're familiar with the Bible.]]
27th Mar '14 9:05:52 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* FoeYay: Some signs of it between Jadis and Edmund. Though it goes a little on the MemeticMolester territory since she's an immortal adult and Edmund well....10.
* FridgeHorror:
** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The bad end? His body stays stone forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} still in little pieces.]]
*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, before un-petrifying him?
*** People and creatures petrified by Jadis's wand don't seem to be aware while they're stone. The griffon is clearly dead no matter what, but that's all. Presumably there were also plenty of combatants on both sides who died of conventional wounds before Lucy arrived with her cordial, as well.
*** If Aslan did not put the Gryphon back together before unpetrifying him (which should be noted is not beyond his abilities by any definition of the word considering that Aslan is the analogue of Jesus), it stands to reason that the Gryphon simply died since his body was beyond recovery. And if you look at the other books in the series (namely the Dawn Treader, the Silver Chair, and the Last Battle), he would've almost certainly ended up in Aslan's country (aka Heavan) if that were the case. The situation isn't nearly as bad as it first seems.
** How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
*** They all have to go through puberty TWICE now!
** In the books, it was stated somewhere that memories of the real world become faint, dreamlike, when in Narnia long enough, and vice versa. This was apparently not noticed in the film adaptation of ''Caspian''.
** [[LaserGuidedAmnesia That doesn't make it better.]]

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* FoeYay: Some signs of it between Jadis and Edmund. Though it goes a little on the MemeticMolester territory since she's an immortal adult and Edmund well....10.
* FridgeHorror:
** Most of the casualties in the Walden movie's final battle are brought back to life either by Aslan's Breath of God or the fire flower potion. There was one real casualty, though: the griffon who is stabbed by Jadis' staff in mid-flight and shatters on the rocks below. The bad end? His body stays stone forever - in pieces - in an AndIMustScream frozen moment. The ''good'' end? He [[LudicrousGibs comes back out of stone]] [[{{Squick}} still in little pieces.]]
*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, before un-petrifying him?
*** People and creatures petrified by Jadis's wand don't seem to be aware while they're stone. The griffon is clearly dead no matter what, but that's all. Presumably there were also plenty of combatants on both sides who died of conventional wounds before Lucy arrived with her cordial, as well.
*** If Aslan did not put the Gryphon back together before unpetrifying him (which should be noted is not beyond his abilities by any definition of the word considering that Aslan is the analogue of Jesus), it stands to reason that the Gryphon simply died since his body was beyond recovery. And if you look at the other books in the series (namely the Dawn Treader, the Silver Chair, and the Last Battle), he would've almost certainly ended up in Aslan's country (aka Heavan) if that were the case. The situation isn't nearly as bad as it first seems.
** How horrible would it be to return to being a common child in 1940s England, with all the knowledge of twenty or so years of being an adult King or Queen in Narnia?
*** They all have to go through puberty TWICE now!
** In the books, it was stated somewhere that memories of the real world become faint, dreamlike, when in Narnia long enough, and vice versa. This was apparently not noticed in the film adaptation of ''Caspian''.
** [[LaserGuidedAmnesia That doesn't make it better.]]
Edmund ....10.
29th Jan '14 1:59:37 PM lordgodsservant
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*** If Aslan did not put the Gryphon back together before unpetrifying him (which should be noted is not beyond his abilities by any definition of the word considering that Aslan is the analogue of Jesus), it stands to reason that the Gryphon simply died since his body was beyond recovery. And if you look at the other books in the series (namely the Dawn Treader, the Silver Chair, and the Last Battle), he would've almost certainly ended up in Aslan's country (aka Heavan) if that were the case. The situation isn't nearly as bad as it first seems.
25th Nov '13 11:50:18 AM Jeduthun
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* FairForItsDay: Lewis has taken a lot of flak for his ValuesDissonance-laden statement that "battles are ugly when women fight." But other books do show that Susan and Lucy and Jill Pole are capable enough to hold their own in a battle. Even the U.S. Military didn't allow women in combat zones until the 1990s, and not in direct combat at all until ''2013''. MenAreTheExpendableGender, after all.
10th Nov '13 10:31:44 PM grapesandmilk
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* HilariousInHindsight: One RunningGag in the novel is that one should never shut oneself in a wardrobe, because if you do you'll be locked in. Edmund forgets this key piece of advice and does so anyway (although he is able to get out later). When the bloopers for TheMovie came out, one of them was Skandar Keynes (who plays Edmund) shutting himself in the wardrobe, and consequently getting locked in.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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One RunningGag in the novel is that one should never shut oneself in a wardrobe, because if you do you'll be locked in. Edmund forgets this key piece of advice and does so anyway (although he is able to get out later). When the bloopers for TheMovie came out, one of them was Skandar Keynes (who plays Edmund) shutting himself in the wardrobe, and consequently getting locked in.
** When Edmund complains that it's raining outside, Susan mentions that they have a "wireless" inside to entertain them.



* TheWoobie: Edmund, while the White Witch's prisoner.

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Edmund, while the White Witch's prisoner.
28th Sep '13 9:21:27 AM omnicritic
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*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, b efore un-petrifying him?

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*** Perhaps Aslan had the ability to put him back together, b efore before un-petrifying him?
3rd Jul '13 9:21:01 AM JoieDeCombat
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*** People and creatures petrified by Jadis's wand don't seem to be aware while they're stone. The griffon is clearly dead no matter what, but that's all. Presumably there were also plenty of combatants on both sides who died of conventional wounds before Lucy arrived with her cordial, as well.
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