History YMMV / TheLionKing

2nd Sep '17 2:49:20 PM Phediuk
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** And then, at the end, ''telling'' Simba that he killed Mufasa when he had no reason to do so and was on the verge of total victory.
30th Aug '17 6:44:55 PM dsneybuf
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* NewerThanTheyThink: The addition of "The Morning Report" to the movie's 2003 Platinum Edition DVD and VHS seemed to some viewers like a case of Disney restoring a CutSong originally intended for the film, a la ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' hitting IMAX theaters and home video the previous year with "Human Again" inserted. However, the insert and sheet music for the Original Broadway Cast recording list a 1997 copyright date for "Morning Report", indicating that Sirs Elton John and Tim Rice wrote it especially for the play (the ''Beauty and the Beast'' Broadway soundtrack and sheet music list a 1991 copyright date for "Human Again", as opposed to the 1994 premiere of the play).

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* NewerThanTheyThink: The addition of "The Morning Report" to the movie's 2003 Platinum Edition DVD and VHS seemed to some viewers like a case of Disney restoring a CutSong originally intended for the film, a la ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' hitting IMAX theaters and home video the previous year with "Human Again" inserted. However, the insert and sheet music for the Original Broadway Cast recording list a 1997 copyright date for "Morning Report", indicating that Sirs Elton John and Tim Rice wrote it especially for the play (the ''Beauty and the Beast'' Broadway soundtrack and sheet music list a 1991 copyright date for "Human Again", as opposed to the 1994 premiere of the play). On releases of the movie that relegate "The Morning Report" to the bonus features, instead of inserting it into the feature, the song has an introduction explaining that John and Rice wrote it especially for the Broadway musical.
30th Aug '17 8:48:00 AM Phediuk
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Don't run away from your problems. Put the past behind you.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Don't run away from your problems. Put the past behind you.Learn from your mistakes.
30th Aug '17 8:45:33 AM Phediuk
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'''Rafiki''': Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or... learn from it.\\

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'''Rafiki''': Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or... learn from it.\\
30th Aug '17 8:44:21 AM Phediuk
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Don't run away from your problems. Put the past behind you.
-->'''Simba''': I know what I have to do, but going back means I'll have to face my past. I've been running from it for so long.\\
[=*Rafiki hits Simba over the head with his stave*=]\\
'''Simba''': OW! Jeez, what was that for?!\\
'''Rafiki''': It doesn't matter! It's in the past!\\
'''Simba''': Yeah, but it still hurts.\\
'''Rafiki''': Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or... learn from it.\\
19th Aug '17 11:27:08 PM Chubzhac
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* AssPull: Don Hahn, the film's producer, revealed in an interview that Mufasa and Scar aren't blood relatives. Ignoring the fact that the film openly refers to Scar as Mufasa's brother and Simba's uncle or the large number of side materials that confirm their relationship, there are still many reasons why this doesn't make much sense.
** Hahn cites in the interview how in nature rogue lions from different prides often team up and take over other prides. While this is true, he ignores the fact the male siblings ejected from their pride often stick together. The Disneynature film, ''African Cats'', even spotlighted this with a rogue group of four siblings.
** It also ignores the fact that the film clearly is not grounded in realism. The Pride Lands are a monarchist system with Simba as the prince and Scar has to get rid of him to ascend the throne. If the lions were portrayed realistically, Scar would already be a king and it would have been Mufasa who chased Simba out of the Pride Lands once he reached adolescence.



** The "When I was a young warthog" bit. It comes out of nowhere and is instantly forgotten once Timon stops Pumbaa from making a PrecisionFStrike.

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** The "When I was a young warthog" bit. It comes out of nowhere and is instantly forgotten once Timon stops Pumbaa from making a PrecisionFStrike. Timon was originally planned to have a verse going into his backstory as well, but it was cut for time.
17th Aug '17 8:59:48 AM LadyFanFareKid
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Simba's years growing up in the Jungle with Timon and Pumbaa is [[TimeSkip entirely glossed over]], although one of the sequels .

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Simba's years growing up in the Jungle with Timon and Pumbaa is [[TimeSkip entirely glossed over]], although one of the sequels .sequels does touch upon this by showing him being raised by Timon and Pumbaa.
12th Aug '17 11:09:37 AM nombretomado
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* ToughActToFollow: This movie was the tough act the rest of the Disney Renaissance had to follow. This most notably affected ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', which is the ''only'' Disney Renaissance film to be graded Rotten on RottenTomatoes, and ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'', which got strong reviews but a relatively paltry take at the box office (and earned a '''lot''' of hatred in [[AmericansHateTingle Greece]]).

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* ToughActToFollow: This movie was the tough act the rest of the Disney Renaissance had to follow. This most notably affected ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', which is the ''only'' Disney Renaissance film to be graded Rotten on RottenTomatoes, Website/RottenTomatoes, and ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'', which got strong reviews but a relatively paltry take at the box office (and earned a '''lot''' of hatred in [[AmericansHateTingle Greece]]).
6th Aug '17 10:05:03 AM rufusluciusivan
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** Mufasa. Noble, courageous king and loving father... or pompous {{Jerkass}} who threw his weight around to bully his little brother, was letting a bunch of hyenas starve for no reason, and who was raising his son to be as big a douche as he was?

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** Mufasa. Noble, courageous king and loving father... or pompous {{Jerkass}} who threw his weight around to bully his little brother, was letting a bunch of hyenas starve for no reason, and who was raising his son to be as big a douche as he was?was? Or, [[TakeAThirdOption alternately]], a generally decent king and good father, but who's prujudiced against hyenas?
13th Jul '17 8:56:14 AM TheNerfGuy
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* BrokenAesop: As believed by many critics, Rafiki's message: "The past hurts, either run from it, or learn from it." falls under this. [[spoiler:Simba does decide to confront his fears, but Scar again puts the blame on him for causing his fathers' death Simba starts to doubt himself again and the other lions doubt him too. It's only when [[BadassDecay Scar]] has Simba in a situation where he will probably die that he [[NiceJobFixingItVillain confesses that he was the actual murderer.]] Simba forces Scar to confess, causing the others to help him defeat him in their midst.]]
** In-universe. Simba's new lesson of "Hakuna Matata, forget your worries" results in him running from his problems and thus shirking his duty as king. It's not that it's ''bad advice,'' per say... just not the greatest philosophy to follow when your tyrannical uncle is sitting on the throne.
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