History YMMV / TheLegendofZelda

28th Apr '17 4:05:42 PM MyFinalEdits
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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a stealth reboot altogether.

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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a stealth reboot altogether.
28th Apr '17 3:47:33 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Zant]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds Yuga]]. Ganondorf escapes this due to having his sympathetic qualities exposed in ''The Wind Waker''.

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* CompleteMonster: [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Zant]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds Yuga]]. Ganondorf Yuga]].
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escapes this due to having his sympathetic qualities exposed in ''The Wind Waker''.Waker'' and due to the curse of Demise in ''Skyward Sword''.
28th Apr '17 3:43:41 PM ThePest179
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** no wind waker dont make him sympathetic even in that game he tried to kill children and his actions in every game are of a man who does nothing but make people suffer he left his own people to rot in the desert once he took power in ocarina of time he never did anything to help them and made there lives worse
28th Apr '17 1:55:53 PM Aceina
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** no wind waker dont make him sympathetic even in that game he tried to kill children and his actions in every game are of a man who does nothing but make people suffer he left his own people to rot in the desert once he took power in ocarina of time he never did anything to help them and made there lives worse
23rd Apr '17 3:58:45 PM XanderVJ
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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a StealthReboot altogether.

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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a StealthReboot stealth reboot altogether.
23rd Apr '17 3:57:08 PM XanderVJ
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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style.

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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a StealthReboot altogether.



** The "Link is Dead in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''" theory stirs up a lot of hate, especially after the popular ''WebVideo/GameTheoryWebShow'' popularized it and many casual fans and observers took it in face value, despite the fact that that episode came out years after ''Hyrule Historia'', which completely [[{{Jossed}} josses it]] right off the bat.

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** The "Link is Dead in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''" theory stirs up a lot of hate, especially after the popular ''WebVideo/GameTheoryWebShow'' popularized it and many casual fans and observers took it in at face value, despite the fact that that, that episode came out years after ''Hyrule Historia'', which completely [[{{Jossed}} josses it]] right off the bat.
2nd Apr '17 9:15:09 PM Gammaween10
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* SuperCouple: Again, Link and Zelda. They're Nintendo's best-known romance, apart from [[Franchise/SuperMario Mario/Peach]], to the point where even non-fans know about Link[=/=]Zelda. The series never stops handling out {{Ship Tease}}s like candy, and ''Skyward Sword'' had their evolved relationship as one of its main draws.

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* SuperCouple: Again, Link and Zelda. They're Nintendo's best-known romance, apart from [[Franchise/SuperMario [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario/Peach]], to the point where even non-fans know about Link[=/=]Zelda. The series never stops handling out {{Ship Tease}}s like candy, and ''Skyward Sword'' had their evolved relationship as one of its main draws.
2nd Apr '17 8:43:06 PM Monsund
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** Also, don't call Link [[OurElvesAreBetter an "elf"]] in front of a ''Zelda'' fan unless you want to be [[DopeSlap slapped upside your face]] for being a complete [[{{Noob}} n00b]]. You'll also probably get a huge speech about how Link is NOT an elf but rather a Hylian, the main race in the games. According to every non-human entity in those games, Hylians are humans. Presumably the ears are just long compared to other, normal-eared humans in the games (such as the ones inhabiting the countries used for the settings of [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames the]] ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames Oracle]]'' [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames games]], who have round ears) as Hylians don't have, for example, extended lifespans or other traits associated with elves.
** It doesn't help that some materials ''do'' make the distinction between "elven" Hylians and "non-elven" humans. The main difference between Hylians and humans, apart from the pointy ears, is that Hylians are the descendants of the Goddess Hylia (in Zelda's form), while humans, we can assume, don't have the blood of Hylia. It also seems that Hylians have mystic abilities that humans don't. The best way of putting it would be that Hylians are human, but humans aren't Hylian. Hylians can therefore be compared to a race, within the species. Still, don't refer to Hylians as elves.

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** Also, don't call Link [[OurElvesAreBetter an "elf"]] in front of a ''Zelda'' fan unless you want to be [[DopeSlap slapped upside your face]] for being a complete [[{{Noob}} n00b]]. You'll also probably get a huge speech about how Link is NOT an elf but rather a Hylian, the main race in the games. According to every non-human entity in those games, Hylians are humans. Presumably the ears are just long compared to other, normal-eared humans human races in the games (such as the ones inhabiting the countries used for the settings of [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames the]] ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames Oracle]]'' [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames games]], who have round ears) as Hylians don't have, for example, extended lifespans or other traits associated with elves.
** It doesn't help that some early materials ''do'' make ''did'' say hylians had greater magical ability then most people at one time. The ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast A Link to the distinction between "elven" Hylians and "non-elven" humans. The main Past]]''guide saying the ancient hylians, unlike the modern day Hyruleans(most of whom also had PointyEars) of Hyrule, had access to advanced magic. It seems the only difference between Hylians and humans, apart from the pointy ears, is that Hylians are the descendants of the Goddess Hylia (in Zelda's form), while humans, we can assume, don't have the blood of Hylia. It also seems that Hylians have mystic abilities that humans don't.Aside from Link and Zelda always being Hylians, this doesn't seem to affect anything. The best way of putting it would be that Hylians are human, but humans aren't Hylian. Hylians can therefore be compared to a race, within the species. A common {{Fanon}} is Hylians have magic abilities round eared humans don't, but this is contradicted by many Hylian characters expressing skepticism at magic, while many round eared human characters are shown as skilled magic users. Still, don't refer to Hylians as elves.
8th Mar '17 6:29:34 PM GastonRabbit
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Link is pretty heavily subject to this, as he's a HeroicMime that the [[EscapistCharacter player is meant to be free to project their own personality onto]], while at the same time he shows some broad, yet distinctive personality traits informed by his actions and the animation (both facial expressions and BodyLanguage)[[note]]This trend started with the 3D Zelda games, especially ''The Wind Waker'', and has grown ever since[[/note]]. Mix these two elements together and you have a recipe for having almost as many interpretations of Link as people who have played the series.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Link is pretty heavily subject to this, as he's a HeroicMime that the [[EscapistCharacter player is meant to be free to project their own personality onto]], while at the same time he shows some broad, yet distinctive personality traits informed by his actions and the animation (both facial expressions and BodyLanguage)[[note]]This trend started with the 3D Zelda games, especially ''The Wind Waker'', and has grown ever since[[/note]]. Mix these two elements together and you have a recipe for having almost as many interpretations of Link as people who have played the series.



* AuthorsSavingThrow: From ''Skyward Sword'' onwards there's the "Hero Mode". A higher-difficulty mode where enemies inflict double damage and there are no healing items such as hearts, meaning the player has no choice but to rely on healing potions only. This mode was obviously created for veteran fans and skilled players who considered [[ItsEasySoItSucks the franchise had become way too easy]] since the N64 games, to the point it was detrimental to the experience for them.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: From ''Skyward Sword'' onwards there's the "Hero Mode". A higher-difficulty mode where enemies inflict double damage and there are no healing items such as hearts, meaning the player has no choice but to rely on healing potions only. This mode was obviously created for veteran fans and skilled players who considered [[ItsEasySoItSucks the franchise had become way too easy]] since the N64 games, to the point where it was detrimental to the experience for them.



** Another one of the biggests, and this time, most visible ones is that every single entry of the series ever since ''Ocarina of Time'' (if not even earlier than that) has received accusations of ItsTheSameSoItSucks and TheyChangedItNowItSucks ''[[DoubleStandard at the same time]]''. One second you find a comment trashing the game for not changing the Zelda formula at all, demeaning its new features as "gimmicks", and the next second you find another one that trashes it because those "gimmicks" are new features that totally change (and ruin) the Zelda formula. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee]] even managed to do both in one review, bashing ''Skyward Sword'' for being formulaic, then for not holding to its own formulas.

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** Another one of the biggests, biggest, and this time, most visible ones is that every single entry of the series ever since ''Ocarina of Time'' (if not even earlier than that) has received accusations of ItsTheSameSoItSucks and TheyChangedItNowItSucks ''[[DoubleStandard at the same time]]''. One second you find a comment trashing the game for not changing the Zelda formula at all, demeaning its new features as "gimmicks", and the next second you find another one that trashes it because those "gimmicks" are new features that totally change (and ruin) the Zelda formula. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee]] even managed to do both in one review, bashing ''Skyward Sword'' for being formulaic, then for not holding to its own formulas.



*** Those who think they should totally use them. They argue the lack of voices makes the games feel outdated, and it's detrimental to the immersion. Especially considering the modern entries in the franchise use cut-scenes prominently, where the lack of voices becomes especially jarring. As for the issue about Link, most people in this camp usually propose to keep him silent (which is the approach ''Breath of the Wild'' takes), arguing that it wouldn't be nearly as weird as people in the opposing side makes it out to be. Others claim that, even if they gave Link a voice, that wouldn't need to destroy his character, since there has been already a successful attempt of giving him a more fleshed out personality in the mangas by Akira Himekawa, which has been embraced by most of the fan base.

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*** Those who think they should totally use them. They argue the lack of voices makes the games feel outdated, and it's detrimental to the immersion. Especially considering the modern entries in the franchise use cut-scenes prominently, where the lack of voices becomes especially jarring. As for the issue about Link, most people in this camp usually propose to keep him silent (which is the approach ''Breath of the Wild'' takes), arguing that it wouldn't be nearly as weird as people in the opposing side makes it out to be. Others claim that, even if they gave Link a voice, that wouldn't need to destroy his character, since there has been already a successful attempt of giving him a more fleshed out personality in the mangas manga by Akira Himekawa, which has been embraced by most of the fan base.



* ContestedSequel: ANY of the console games that follow up on ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'', there's no arguing against it. ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' even became this ''before it was even released!''

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* ContestedSequel: ANY of the console games that follow up on ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'', there's no arguing against it. ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' even became this ''before it was even released!''released''!



* DieForOurShip: Anything that threatens the possibility of a Link/Zelda pairing is violently purged. Zelda herself can suffer this when other choices are available. (''Ocarina of Time'', ''Twilight Princess'')

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* DieForOurShip: Anything that threatens the possibility of a Link/Zelda pairing is violently purged. Zelda herself can suffer this when other choices are available. available (''Ocarina of Time'', ''Twilight Princess'')Princess'').



** After being VindicatedByHistory, it has become a serious crime to refer to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]]'' as ''kiddy'' or ''childish'' in certain fan groups. [[spoiler:Link stabbing Ganondorf through the head, and the fact that the game takes place in what turns out to be a post-apocalyptic world]] may be a big contribution to this.
** Also, don't call Link [[OurElvesAreBetter an "elf"]] in front of a ''Zelda'' fan unless you want to be [[DopeSlap slapped upside your face]] for being a complete [[{{Noob}} n00b]]. You'll also probably get a huge speech about how Link is NOT an elf but rather a Hylian, the main race in the games. According to every non-human entity in those games, Hylians are humans. Presumably the ears are just long compared to other, normal-eared humans in the games (such as the ones inhabiting the countries used for the settings of [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames the]] ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames Oracle]]'' [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames games]], which have round ears) as Hylians don't have, for example, extended lifespans or other traits associated with elves.

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** After being VindicatedByHistory, it has become a serious crime to refer to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]]'' as ''kiddy'' "kiddy" or ''childish'' "childish" in certain fan groups. [[spoiler:Link stabbing Ganondorf through the head, and the fact that the game takes place in what turns out to be a post-apocalyptic world]] may be a big contribution to this.
** Also, don't call Link [[OurElvesAreBetter an "elf"]] in front of a ''Zelda'' fan unless you want to be [[DopeSlap slapped upside your face]] for being a complete [[{{Noob}} n00b]]. You'll also probably get a huge speech about how Link is NOT an elf but rather a Hylian, the main race in the games. According to every non-human entity in those games, Hylians are humans. Presumably the ears are just long compared to other, normal-eared humans in the games (such as the ones inhabiting the countries used for the settings of [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames the]] ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames Oracle]]'' [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames games]], which who have round ears) as Hylians don't have, for example, extended lifespans or other traits associated with elves.



** A significant number of fans of ''Franchise/MetalGear'' are also fond of the Zelda series, and the similarities between the Snakes and Links are often brought up. It certainly helps that Snake and Link have met each other during ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', and that Colonel Campbell himself lampshaded their NotSoDifferent method of saving the world in a bonus CODEC call on the Shadow Moses arena.

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** A significant number of fans of ''Franchise/MetalGear'' are also fond of the Zelda ''Zelda'' series, and the similarities between the Snakes and Links are often brought up. It certainly helps that Snake and Link have met each other during ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', and that Colonel Campbell himself lampshaded their NotSoDifferent method of saving the world in a bonus CODEC call on the Shadow Moses arena.



** [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds Yuga]] managed to [[spoiler: ''hijack Ganon.'']]

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** [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds Yuga]] managed to [[spoiler: ''hijack Ganon.'']][[spoiler:''hijack Ganon'']].



* MemeticLoser: Tingle is a 35 year-old man who dresses in a green onesie and wishes to become a fairy. He's meant to be a ManChild and is loved by the Japanese fanbase... But the Western fanbase love to loathe him. When you have a trope called "AmericansHateTingle" named after you, you know you're a memetic loser.

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* MemeticLoser: Tingle is a 35 year-old man who dresses in a green onesie and wishes to become a fairy. He's meant to be a ManChild and is loved by the Japanese fanbase... But but the Western fanbase love loves to loathe him. When you have a trope called "AmericansHateTingle" named after you, you know you're a memetic loser.



** Redeads, in particular the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]] versions.

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** Redeads, in particular the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] Time]]'' and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]] Mask]]'' versions.



** While the core fanbase is [[BrokenBase split]] as to the overall quality of each game, three in particular -- ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'' -- are treated as this and adamantly defended from any sort of criticism, although this raises accusations of SeinfeldIsUnfunny and HypeBacklash. ''The Wind Waker'' gets this treatment to a somewhat lesser extent.

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** While the core fanbase is [[BrokenBase split]] as to the overall quality of each game, three in particular -- ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'' Time'', and ''Majora's Mask'' -- are treated as this and adamantly defended from any sort of criticism, although this raises accusations of SeinfeldIsUnfunny and HypeBacklash. ''The Wind Waker'' gets this treatment to a somewhat lesser extent.



* SequelDisplacement: Most of the series' current fans came in after ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' and it was surprisingly common to see ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' referred to as "Zelda 2," even though the '''real''' Zelda II was made ten years before ''Ocarina''.

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* SequelDisplacement: Most of the series' current fans came in after ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' and it was surprisingly common to see ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]'' referred to as "Zelda 2," even though the '''real''' Zelda II ''Zelda II'' was made ten years before ''Ocarina''.



* SuperCouple: Again, Link and Zelda. They're Nintendo's best-known romance, apart from [[Franchise/SuperMario Mario/Peach]], to the point even non-fans know about Link[=/=]Zelda. The series never stops handling out {{Ship Tease}}s like candy, and ''Skyward Sword'' had their evolved relationship as one of its main draws.

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* SuperCouple: Again, Link and Zelda. They're Nintendo's best-known romance, apart from [[Franchise/SuperMario Mario/Peach]], to the point where even non-fans know about Link[=/=]Zelda. The series never stops handling out {{Ship Tease}}s like candy, and ''Skyward Sword'' had their evolved relationship as one of its main draws.
8th Mar '17 6:17:12 PM GastonRabbit
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Link is pretty heavily subject to this, as he's a HeroicMime that the [[EscapistCharacter player is meant to be free to project their own personality onto]], while at the same time he shows some broad, yet distinctive personality traits informed by his actions and the animation (both facial expressions and BodyLanguage)[[note]]This trend started with the 3D Zelda games, specially ''The Wind Waker'', and has grown ever since[[/note]]. Mix these two elements together and you have a recipe for having almost as many interpretations of Link as people who have played the series.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Link is pretty heavily subject to this, as he's a HeroicMime that the [[EscapistCharacter player is meant to be free to project their own personality onto]], while at the same time he shows some broad, yet distinctive personality traits informed by his actions and the animation (both facial expressions and BodyLanguage)[[note]]This trend started with the 3D Zelda games, specially especially ''The Wind Waker'', and has grown ever since[[/note]]. Mix these two elements together and you have a recipe for having almost as many interpretations of Link as people who have played the series.



** Even leaving new games aside, there are still tons of theories around the web discussing points in the already established timeline that weren't addressed by ''Hyrule Historia'', like the full history of each race (the Sheikah and Gerudo are particularly prone to it), or the fate of secondary characters. Mostly minor stuff, but still strong enough to sustain entire YouTube channels dedicated to this topic alone.

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** Even leaving new games aside, there are still tons of theories around the web discussing points in the already established timeline that weren't addressed by ''Hyrule Historia'', like the full history of each race (the Sheikah and Gerudo are particularly prone to it), or the fate of secondary characters. Mostly minor stuff, but still strong enough to sustain entire YouTube Website/YouTube channels dedicated to this topic alone.



** The "Link is Dead in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''" theory stirs up a lot of hate. Specially after the popular ''WebVideo/GameTheoryWebShow'' popularized it and many casual fans and observers took it in face value, despite the fact that that episode came out years after ''Hyrule Historia'', which completely [[{{Jossed}} josses it]] right off the bat.

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** The "Link is Dead in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Majora's Mask]]''" theory stirs up a lot of hate. Specially hate, especially after the popular ''WebVideo/GameTheoryWebShow'' popularized it and many casual fans and observers took it in face value, despite the fact that that episode came out years after ''Hyrule Historia'', which completely [[{{Jossed}} josses it]] right off the bat.



** In regards to ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors'', Linkle is her own character, and ''not'' a gender-swapped incarnation of Link.

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** In regards regard to ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors'', Linkle is her own character, and ''not'' a gender-swapped incarnation of Link.



* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common complaint about entries after the N64 era among veteran fans, specially those who grew up with [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI the]] [[VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink first]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast four]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendofZeldaLinksAwakening games]].

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* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common complaint about entries after the N64 era among veteran fans, specially especially those who grew up with [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI the]] [[VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink first]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast four]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendofZeldaLinksAwakening games]].



** The series, as well as its protagonist Link, are unanimously praised and loved by the gaming community [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff in the west]] - even more than ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', Nintendo's own flagship series and one that's sold many more games than ''Zelda'' and other franchises by a huge margin.
** While the core fanbase is [[BrokenBase split]] as to the overall quality of each game, three in particular - ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'' - are treated as this and adamantly defended from any sort of criticism, although this raises accusations of SeinfeldIsUnfunny and HypeBacklash. ''The Wind Waker'' gets this treatment to a somewhat lesser extent.

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** The series, as well as its protagonist Link, are unanimously praised and loved by the gaming community [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff in the west]] - -- even more than ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', Nintendo's own flagship series and one that's sold many more games than ''Zelda'' and other franchises by a huge margin.
** While the core fanbase is [[BrokenBase split]] as to the overall quality of each game, three in particular - -- ''A Link to the Past'', ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'' - -- are treated as this and adamantly defended from any sort of criticism, although this raises accusations of SeinfeldIsUnfunny and HypeBacklash. ''The Wind Waker'' gets this treatment to a somewhat lesser extent.



** Some people consider the creation of [[DistaffCounterpart Linkle]] in ''Hyrule Warriors'' to be this. For said people, Nintendo basically took the easy way out in the whole ''Should Link be allowed to be a girl?" debate, and deem it not even close to good enough.

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** Some people consider the creation of [[DistaffCounterpart Linkle]] in ''Hyrule Warriors'' to be this. For said people, Nintendo basically took the easy way out in the whole ''Should "Should Link be allowed to be a girl?" debate, and deem it not even close to good enough.
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