History YMMV / TheLegendofZelda

22nd Jul '17 10:26:45 AM dieseldragons
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Valoo the [[GentleGiant fat friendly dragon]] from ''Wind Waker'' is much loved by the fans on the Internet, yet hasn't appeared in another game since his debut.
30th Jun '17 9:13:47 PM Angeldeb82
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** Another one of the biggest, and this time, most visible ones is that every single entry of the series ever since ''Ocarina of Time'' (if not even earlier than that) has received accusations of ItsTheSameSoItSucks and TheyChangedItNowItSucks ''[[DoubleStandard at the same time]]''. One second you find a comment trashing the game for not changing the Zelda formula at all, demeaning its new features as "gimmicks", and the next second you find another one that trashes it because those "gimmicks" are new features that totally change (and ruin) the Zelda formula. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee]] even managed to do both in one review, bashing ''Skyward Sword'' for being formulaic, then for not holding to its own formulas.

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** Another one of the biggest, and this time, most visible ones is that every single entry of the series ever since ''Ocarina of Time'' (if not even earlier than that) has received accusations of ItsTheSameSoItSucks ItsTheSameNowItSucks and TheyChangedItNowItSucks ''[[DoubleStandard at the same time]]''. One second you find a comment trashing the game for not changing the Zelda formula at all, demeaning its new features as "gimmicks", and the next second you find another one that trashes it because those "gimmicks" are new features that totally change (and ruin) the Zelda formula. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee]] even managed to do both in one review, bashing ''Skyward Sword'' for being formulaic, then for not holding to its own formulas.



** The "Should Link be allowed to be a girl?" debate. The idea had been around for a while in the early 2010's, but it was only proposed by a small and quite minority. Things changed with the E3 2014 reveal trailer of ''TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', which showed a Link that .looked [[DudeLooksLikeALady more androgynous than usual]], to the point that it created a ''massive'' ViewerGenderConfusion. After that, and the confirmation that this Link was indeed a male, the debate jumped to the forefront of the fandom, with all different kinds of opinions on the matter.

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** The "Should Link be allowed to be a girl?" debate. The idea had been around for a while in the early 2010's, but it was only proposed by a small and quite minority. Things changed with the E3 2014 reveal trailer of ''TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', which showed a Link that .that looked [[DudeLooksLikeALady more androgynous than usual]], to the point that it created a ''massive'' ViewerGenderConfusion. After that, and the confirmation that this Link was indeed a male, the debate jumped to the forefront of the fandom, with all different kinds of opinions on the matter.



* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common complaint about entries after the N64 era among veteran fans, especially those who grew up with [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI the]] [[VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink first]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast four]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendofZeldaLinksAwakening games]].
* LGBTFanbase: In addition to causing StupidSexyFlanders moments in straight fans, a gay magazine voted Link as the hottest video game character of all time. As an older {{Hunk}}, Ganondorf also has a following in the {{Bara}} community.

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* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common complaint about entries after the N64 era among veteran fans, especially those who grew up with [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI the]] [[VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink first]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast four]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendofZeldaLinksAwakening [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening games]].
* LGBTFanbase: In addition to causing StupidSexyFlanders moments in straight fans, a gay magazine voted Link as the hottest video game character of all time. As an older {{Hunk}}, Ganondorf also has a following in the {{Bara}} {{Bara|Genre}} community.



* NostalgiaFilter: ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' [[ToughActToFollow tends to be used as a measuring stick]], by both the fandom and professional critics, to judge [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask the]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker sequels]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess that]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword followed]]. This led to each game getting some form of [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks It's the Same]] / [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Changed, Now It Sucks]] criticism. This even extended to ''its own remake'', where most of the negative criticism was due to the lack of new features rather than the nature of the game itself.

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* NostalgiaFilter: ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' [[ToughActToFollow tends to be used as a measuring stick]], by both the fandom and professional critics, to judge [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask the]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker sequels]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess that]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword followed]]. This led to each game getting some form of [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks It's the Same]] / [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks It Changed, Now It Sucks]] criticism. This even extended to ''its own remake'', where most of the negative criticism was due to the lack of new features rather than the nature of the game itself.
25th Jun '17 8:28:05 AM XanderVJ
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17th Jun '17 10:10:30 AM Ramona122003
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** The series have a friendly relationship with the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBrothers'' fandom since they're both Nintendo flagship franchises and highly revered. They may some times butt heads over who have the 'better games' or who would win in a fight (Mario vs. Link, Peach vs. Zelda, Bowser vs. Ganon), but it's usually in good fun.
5th Jun '17 12:25:34 PM MathematicalVoid
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** A significant number of fans of ''Franchise/MetalGear'' are also fond of the ''Zelda'' series, and the similarities between the Snakes and Links are often brought up. It certainly helps that Snake and Link have met each other during ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', and that Colonel Campbell himself lampshaded their NotSoDifferent method of saving the world in a bonus CODEC call on the Shadow Moses arena.

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** A significant number of fans of ''Franchise/MetalGear'' are also fond of the ''Zelda'' series, and the similarities between the Snakes and Links are often brought up. It certainly helps that Snake and Link have met each other during ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', and that Colonel Campbell himself Otacon lampshaded their NotSoDifferent method of saving the world in a bonus CODEC call on the Shadow Moses arena.
28th Apr '17 4:05:42 PM MyFinalEdits
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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a stealth reboot altogether.

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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a stealth reboot altogether.
28th Apr '17 3:47:33 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Zant]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds Yuga]]. Ganondorf escapes this due to having his sympathetic qualities exposed in ''The Wind Waker''.

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* CompleteMonster: [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Zant]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds Yuga]]. Ganondorf Yuga]].
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escapes this due to having his sympathetic qualities exposed in ''The Wind Waker''.Waker'' and due to the curse of Demise in ''Skyward Sword''.
28th Apr '17 3:43:41 PM ThePest179
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** no wind waker dont make him sympathetic even in that game he tried to kill children and his actions in every game are of a man who does nothing but make people suffer he left his own people to rot in the desert once he took power in ocarina of time he never did anything to help them and made there lives worse
28th Apr '17 1:55:53 PM Aceina
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** no wind waker dont make him sympathetic even in that game he tried to kill children and his actions in every game are of a man who does nothing but make people suffer he left his own people to rot in the desert once he took power in ocarina of time he never did anything to help them and made there lives worse
23rd Apr '17 3:58:45 PM XanderVJ
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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a StealthReboot altogether.

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** After ''Hyrule Historia'' was finally accepted as the biggest (albeit not 100% undisputed) authority discussing the timeline up to ''Skyward Sword'', the fanbase then started to focus on in which place of the official timeline would fall the games that were released afterwards. Although at first it was straight-forward enough (''A Link Between Worlds'' being a distant, yet direct sequel to ''A Link to the Past''), with ''Breath of the Wild'', timeline theorists came back with the old energy from the pre-''Skyward Sword'' days back in full force. They analyzed the trailers and demo footage practically frame by frame looking for clues that would answer the mystery, ''Film/ZapruderFilm'' style. Things got UpToEleven after the game came out, since the game has clues that can be interpreted in so many different ways, the Zelda fan base has gone in a total frenzy. Namely, the game has references to pretty much all three timelines, even though some of them are ridiculously hidden (to the point that some of them were only found after comparing the dubs for all languages). So it's not clear if it belongs to one of the individual timelines, if it means all timelines were converged off-screen, or even if the game is a StealthReboot stealth reboot altogether.
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