History YMMV / TheLegendOfSleepyHollow

19th Mar '18 11:37:10 PM WanderingBrowser
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** One thing that's rather interesting -- Disney actually has it rather faithfully, although [[AdaptationalVillainy playing Brom Bones's villainy up a tad more]], making it seem like TheBadGuyWins. But at the same time, try watching it with an adult perspective. Watch Doug Walker's Disneycember video on the movie to learn why.
** An actual canon case of this is in the 1999 CGI film "The Night of the Headless Horseman"; here, Katrina, usually depicted as more or less an innocent caught up in the LoveTriangle, is quite blatantly revealed to be egging on both Brom and Ichabod for her own amusement, waiting to see who will ultimately prove worth keeping.

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** One thing that's rather interesting -- Disney actually has it rather faithfully, although [[AdaptationalVillainy playing Brom Bones's villainy up a tad more]], making it seem like TheBadGuyWins. But at the same time, try watching it with an adult perspective. Watch Doug Walker's Disneycember video on As Creator/DougWalker points out in his "Disneycember" short covering the movie to learn why.
adaptation, Ichabod is actually kind of a dick, healing a baker just so he can pilfer one of her pies and being quite explicitly interested in Katrina because of how much money and food he can enjoy after marrying into her wealthy family - he even has an ImagineSpot in which Katrina's father disappears, leaving behind all his gold rings, shiny buttons and other bling, and Ichabod appears in his spot, now wearing his bling.
** An actual canon case of this is in the 1999 CGI film "The Night of the Headless Horseman"; here, Katrina, usually depicted as more or less an innocent caught up in the LoveTriangle, is quite blatantly revealed to be egging on both Brom and Ichabod for her own amusement, waiting to see who will ultimately prove worth keeping. [[spoiler:And then there's Brom Bones, who is unquestionably the villain, as he makes a DealWithTheDevil for Ichabod to disappear.]]
6th Mar '18 4:11:18 AM IsaWP
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** The most astonishing being that a revolutionary war battle record did indicate the death of a solider and his horse via canon fire. And if they had been given a group burial they would have been buried very close to where the fictional Horseman rides out from. While many towns have always had their ghost stories, there's little evidence at all that this actual event had influence on Irving or was linked to any purported haunting before this tale was told. In fact Irving seemed more under the belief he was Americanizing a German legend he knew about in writing this story. The general idea that there would later be an account that hits multiple points to coincide with this story near Tarrytown/Sleepy Hollow is just astonishing.

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** The most astonishing being that a A revolutionary war battle record did indicate the death of a solider soldier and his horse via canon fire. And if they had been given a group burial they would have been buried very close to where the fictional Horseman rides out from. While many towns have always had their ghost stories, there's little evidence at all that this actual event had influence on Irving or was linked to any purported haunting before this tale was told. In fact Irving seemed more under the belief he was Americanizing a German legend he knew about in writing this story. The general idea that there would later be an account that hits multiple points to coincide with this story near Tarrytown/Sleepy Hollow is just astonishing.curious. Of course, these are common and vague coincidences (cannons weren't a rarity in war, nor death by cannon, nor soldiers on horses) and anything following ''if they had been'' is not really a fact of history.
6th Mar '18 3:56:21 AM IsaWP
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*** Or, it was done by Brom, would could see very well (even if he had to hide his head somehow) and is described in the story to be 'skilled at horsemanship' (thus able to ride a horse even if his sight is impaired by a piece of cloth or such), strong and mischievous.
27th Feb '18 3:15:14 PM TompaDompa
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** Is Brom Bones a vindictive bully who played a nasty trick on a harmless, lovestruck nerd, or a down-home, all-American good ol' boy who gave just desserts to a venal, manipulative coward? There is a strong modern trend to make Ichabod Crane be actually a heroic character, while Brom Bones is regarded as at best a JerkJock -- which are both far from Irving's intention to have Bones be the hero and Ichabod a superstitious wimpy moocher AssholeVictim.

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** Is Brom Bones a vindictive bully who played a nasty trick on a harmless, lovestruck nerd, or a down-home, all-American good ol' boy who gave just desserts deserts to a venal, manipulative coward? There is a strong modern trend to make Ichabod Crane be actually a heroic character, while Brom Bones is regarded as at best a JerkJock -- which are both far from Irving's intention to have Bones be the hero and Ichabod a superstitious wimpy moocher AssholeVictim.
15th Feb '18 10:48:00 AM Homemaderat
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** The most astonishing being that a revolutionary war battle record did indicate the death of a solider and his horse via canon fire. And if they had been given a group burial they would have been buried very close to where the fictional Horseman rides out from. While many towns have always had their ghost stories, there's little evidence at all that this actual event had influence on Irving or was linked to any purported haunting before this tale was told. While many smaller pieces are found among many war battle records, the fact there was one all combined close to North Tarrytown/Sleepy Hollow is just astonishing.

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** The most astonishing being that a revolutionary war battle record did indicate the death of a solider and his horse via canon fire. And if they had been given a group burial they would have been buried very close to where the fictional Horseman rides out from. While many towns have always had their ghost stories, there's little evidence at all that this actual event had influence on Irving or was linked to any purported haunting before this tale was told. While many smaller pieces are found among many war battle records, the In fact Irving seemed more under the belief he was Americanizing a German legend he knew about in writing this story. The general idea that there was one all combined close would later be an account that hits multiple points to North coincide with this story near Tarrytown/Sleepy Hollow is just astonishing.
8th Dec '17 8:07:29 PM Nicoaln
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** Katrina herself. Did she genuinely love Brom ''or'' Crane, or did she just enjoy manipulating them? Even the ''Disney'' version, surprisingly, leaves itself open to the interpretation that Katrina isn't exactly a paragon of virtue.
8th Dec '17 8:05:48 PM Nicoaln
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Schools sometimes use this story (since it's actually not that gory or even hard to comprehend for younger audiences) to teach this trope. Some examples include:


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** Another one is that it ''was'' a ScoobyDooHoax, but it was done by an unnamed ''third'' suitor to Katrina - whose plan was to kill Ichabod and frame the murder on Brom Bones. The text mentions that Brom Bones laughed at the incident nervously in the later years - implying that the townsfolk ''did'' suspect that Brom may have had something to do with Crane's disappearance. Of course, since the text seems to imply Brom is responsible, could this be an attempt at an UnreliableNarrator attempting to smear Brom in hopes of getting him imprisoned?
31st Oct '17 11:06:14 AM valhallaerikson
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* ValuesDissonance: A modern reader would likely find Ichabod and Brom both equally unsympathetic. Ichabod's essentially a sneering, self-important, arrogant, mooching gold digger, and Brom Bones is a thuggish, anti-intellectual bully. Throw in the hints that Katrina was just manipulating both of them, and you could very well end up with DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.

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* ValuesDissonance: A modern reader would likely find Ichabod and Brom both equally unsympathetic. Ichabod's essentially a sneering, self-important, arrogant, mooching gold digger, and Brom Bones is a thuggish, anti-intellectual bully. Throw in the hints that Katrina was just manipulating both of them, and you could very well end up with DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
** Judging by the alternate character interpretation example above, modern readers see Brom Bones a WellIntentionedExtremist. Especially if the theory of him posing as The Headless Horseman is true.
30th Oct '17 3:21:13 PM CantNotLookAtThisSite
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** Depending on your interpretation of Ichabod's motives, combined with ValuesDissonance: Is Ichabod kind of a creepy old lecher who is trying to butter up a ''teenager'' in order to marry her for her father's wealth? Did he [[AssholeVictim have it coming]]? This of course depends also on the adaptation, where age differences might be less pronounced and the characters portrayed in more and less sympathetic lights.
25th Sep '17 7:14:25 PM Homemaderat
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* HilariousInHindsight: Mr. Irving at times admits he made stuff up, a lot of trivia researchers may try to sway people otherwise but there are certainly a lot of eerie coincidences found in later years around this area that could make one of to think otherwise, but it's more likely they are [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting nothing but hilarious coincidences]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Mr. Irving at times admits he made stuff up, a lot of trivia researchers may try to sway people otherwise but such as admitting his inspiration from older tales mixed into the new world. But oddly enough there are certainly a lot of several eerie coincidences found in later years around this area that have been uncovered that could make one of it seem like there was more to think otherwise, this story than fiction but it's more likely they are [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting nothing but hilarious coincidences]].coincidences]].
** The most astonishing being that a revolutionary war battle record did indicate the death of a solider and his horse via canon fire. And if they had been given a group burial they would have been buried very close to where the fictional Horseman rides out from. While many towns have always had their ghost stories, there's little evidence at all that this actual event had influence on Irving or was linked to any purported haunting before this tale was told. While many smaller pieces are found among many war battle records, the fact there was one all combined close to North Tarrytown/Sleepy Hollow is just astonishing.
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