History YMMV / TheLeagueOfExtraOrdinaryGentlemen

21st Sep '17 11:31:09 PM LadyNorbert
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Orlando is this. To some readers, he/she is a BloodKnight who is LivingForeverIsAwesome personified. To other's he/she's a CreatorsPet and a one-note CampGay.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Orlando is this. To some readers, he/she is a BloodKnight who is LivingForeverIsAwesome personified. To other's others, he/she's a CreatorsPet and a one-note CampGay.



* ValuesDissonance: The comic deliberately fakes this trope to create aesops such as "The Chinese are brilliant, but evil". Which we would like to stress is a verbatim quote.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The Beatnik novella from the Black Dossier reads like this, which, given the source material, isn't surprising. If one takes the time to actually decipher the text, the plot seems to involve Fu Manchu and Professor Moriarty's descendants ([[Literature/OnTheRoad Dean Moriarty]] and [[Creator/JackKerouac Doctor Sax]], respectively) continuing a family feud by unleashing an ancient Aztec linguistic virus made from centipedes. Oh and the virus actually turns out to be Lovecraftian {{Eldritch Abomination}}s.

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* ValuesDissonance: The comic deliberately fakes this trope to create aesops such as "The Chinese are brilliant, but evil". Which we evil." We would like to stress this is a verbatim quote.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The Beatnik novella from the Black Dossier ''Black Dossier'' reads like this, which, given the source material, isn't surprising. If one takes the time to actually decipher the text, the plot seems to involve Fu Manchu and Professor Moriarty's descendants ([[Literature/OnTheRoad Dean Moriarty]] and [[Creator/JackKerouac Doctor Sax]], respectively) continuing a family feud by unleashing an ancient Aztec linguistic virus made from centipedes. Oh and the virus actually turns out to be Lovecraftian {{Eldritch Abomination}}s.



*** Quartermain: A legendary old hero in an era that is not his own, who lost someone close to him while working for his government.

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*** Quartermain: Quatermain: A legendary old hero in an era that is not his own, who lost someone close to him while working for his government.



*** And they're all working at the behest of a mysterious government figure. The only ones that don't match are Thor and Hawkeye [[note]]unless you include Quartermain, who is a crack shot, or reformed thief Skinner (assuming MCU Hawkeye shares that part of the comic version's past)[[/note]], but other than that, one almost expects Quartermain to yell "[[ComicBook/TheAvengers League, Assemble!]]"

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*** And they're all working at the behest of a mysterious government figure. The only ones that don't match are Thor and Hawkeye [[note]]unless you include Quartermain, Quatermain, who is a crack shot, or reformed thief Skinner (assuming MCU Hawkeye shares that part of the comic version's past)[[/note]], but other than that, one almost expects Quartermain Quatermain to yell "[[ComicBook/TheAvengers League, Assemble!]]"
21st Sep '17 11:26:57 PM LadyNorbert
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*** A bit meta but almost all of Alan Moore's choices for ''Century:2009'' were recycled cliches about millennials. Millennials are overly reliant on pharmaceuticals, have no culture, aren't involved in politics or society, the list goes on. For all of Moore's supposed counter-culture tendencies, it's very easy to picture him complaining about today's big civil rights movements in the same way Louise Mensch might. How bad is it? The closest Moore comes to approaching what today's generation has to deal with is observing that row after row of houses are empty but quickly back peddles from this and tries to frame it as being the fault of Millennials! [[spoiler: That the entire Harry Potter plot line boils down to a Dark!Harry Manipulative!Dumbledore fanfiction is really just the least of Moore's poor choices.]]

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*** A bit meta but almost all of Alan Moore's choices for ''Century:2009'' were recycled cliches about millennials. Millennials are overly reliant on pharmaceuticals, have no culture, aren't involved in politics or society, the list goes on. For all of Moore's supposed counter-culture tendencies, it's very easy to picture him complaining about today's big civil rights movements in the same way Louise Mensch might. How bad is it? The closest Moore comes to approaching what today's generation has to deal with is observing that row after row of houses are empty but quickly back peddles backpedals from this and tries to frame it as being the fault of Millennials! [[spoiler: That the entire Harry Potter plot line boils down to a Dark!Harry Manipulative!Dumbledore fanfiction is really just the least of Moore's poor choices.]]




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18th Aug '17 2:57:02 AM BeastC
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* FanficFuel: This is a universe where every piece of fiction to ever be published exists alongside each other and are connected in some way. Go nuts.
6th Aug '17 1:01:13 PM JulianLapostat
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* OlderThanTheyThink: One of Moore's basic points was restoring the UnbuiltTrope of works known via PopCulturalOsmosis through multimedia adaptations which get so LostInImitation that they aren't really the original story anymore:
** Captain Nemo's Indian origin was made by Creator/JulesVerne himself in ''Literature/TheMysteriousIsland'' and partly foreshadowed in ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea''. Likewise, Moore isn't the first to suggest that Mina Murray's marriage with Jonathan Harker would hit the rocks in ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' after the supposed HappyEnding since many critics and Creator/FrancisFordCoppola suggested that subtext before him. There's hints near the end of Robert Louis Stevenson's story that Hyde could big become bigger than Jekyll.
** Many who claimed that [[spoiler:the portrayal of the Antichrist and Harry Potter]] was unfaithful to the source material. The Antichrist's personality in Century:2009 as a paranoid teenager confused about his destiny and confused about being a PinballProtagonist by his mentor is more or less consistent to the {{Wangst}}-y arc of the character in Book 5 (which was pointedly excised from the films to make the character sympathetic to the audience, i.e. proving Moore's point), as is the criticism about his obsession of fame and repeatedly noting how famous he is, much of which echoes complaints by EnsembleDarkhorse characters in the books. Likewise the portrayal of [[spoiler:Ron and Hermione with Ron bravely standing to try and talk sense to Harry while Hermione cries for her mother is an exaggerated inversion of the dynamic in the movies where Hermione is portrayed as an ActionGirl with Ron's best moments given to her]].
15th Jul '17 7:59:01 PM CrowTR0bot
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** Richard Roxburgh would also go on to play Dracula in ''Film/VanHelsing'' a year later, which also featured a Mr. Hyde.

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** Richard Roxburgh would also go on to play Dracula in ''Film/VanHelsing'' a year later, which also featured a Mr. Hyde.Hyde who was depicted as a [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]] {{Expy}}.
13th Jul '17 7:49:03 PM 64SuperNintendo
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*** A bit meta but almost all of Alan Moore's choices for ''Century:2009'' were recycled cliches about millennials. Millennials are overly reliant on pharmaceuticals, have no culture, aren't involved in politics or society, the list goes on. For all of Moore's supposed counter culture tendencies it's very easy to picture him complaining about today's big civil rights movements in the same way Louise Mensch might. How bad is it? The closest Moore comes to approaching what today's generation has to deal with is observing that row after row of houses are empty but quickly back peddles from this and tries to frame it as being the fault of Millennials! [[spoiler: That the entire Harry Potter plot line boils down to a Dark!Harry Manipulative!Dumbledore fanfiction is really just the least of Moore's poor choices.]]

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*** A bit meta but almost all of Alan Moore's choices for ''Century:2009'' were recycled cliches about millennials. Millennials are overly reliant on pharmaceuticals, have no culture, aren't involved in politics or society, the list goes on. For all of Moore's supposed counter culture tendencies counter-culture tendencies, it's very easy to picture him complaining about today's big civil rights movements in the same way Louise Mensch might. How bad is it? The closest Moore comes to approaching what today's generation has to deal with is observing that row after row of houses are empty but quickly back peddles from this and tries to frame it as being the fault of Millennials! [[spoiler: That the entire Harry Potter plot line boils down to a Dark!Harry Manipulative!Dumbledore fanfiction is really just the least of Moore's poor choices.]]
2nd Jul '17 8:11:07 PM mariskep
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*** A bit meta but almost all of Alan Moore's choices for ''Century:2009'' were recycled cliches about millennials. Millennials are overly reliant on pharmaceuticals, have no culture, aren't involved in politics or society, the list goes on. For all of Moore's supposed counter culture tendencies it's very easy to picture him complaining about today's big civil rights movements in the same way Louise Mensch might. How bad is it? The closest Moore comes to approaching what today's generation has to deal with is observing that row after row of houses are empty but quickly back peddles from this and tries to frame it as being the fault of Millennials! [[spoiler: That the entire Harry Potter plot line boils down to a Dark!Harry Manipulative!Dumbledore fanfiction is really just the least of Moore's poor choices.]]
12th Jun '17 3:28:21 PM AmuckCricetine
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: The [[AuthorAppeal real]] [[NewMediaAreEvil reason]] is obvious, but from a Watsonian perspective, what happened to almost every major literary character since the middle of the twentieth century? Indeed, it is worth noting that in the older volumes Moore dove deep into many literary sources in building the world of the league, from the major players to the background characters. But by the time of ''1969'' and ''2009'', the number of literary sources takes a severe nosedive. The world of the League, and therefore, of literature itself, is constantly picked apart and depicted as collapsing, but it falls a bit flat when the reason for that seems to stem from the better part of over half a century's worth of characters and stories are completely absent.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: The [[AuthorAppeal real]] [[NewMediaAreEvil reason]] is obvious, but from a Watsonian perspective, what happened to almost every major literary character since the middle of the twentieth century? Indeed, it is worth noting that in the older volumes Moore dove deep into many literary sources in building the world of the league, from the major players to the background characters. But by the time of ''1969'' and ''2009'', the number of literary sources takes a severe nosedive. The world of the League, and therefore, of literature itself, is constantly picked apart and depicted as collapsing, but it falls a bit flat when the reason for that seems to stem from the better part of over half a century's worth of characters and stories are completely absent.
10th Jun '17 2:56:15 PM nombretomado
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** The movie's EvilPlan involves a mysterious bad guy (who's eventually revealed to be [[spoiler: Professor Moriarty]]) trying to start WorldWarI a few decades early. ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', which came out almost a decade later, was about the same thing. [[spoiler: In this film, Moriarty even references the Reichenbach falls as where "that man died." Perhaps he got some plastic surgery, and tried to start his EvilPlan all over again, but went more ambitious by using the League?]]

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** The movie's EvilPlan involves a mysterious bad guy (who's eventually revealed to be [[spoiler: Professor Moriarty]]) trying to start WorldWarI UsefulNotes/WorldWarI a few decades early. ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', which came out almost a decade later, was about the same thing. [[spoiler: In this film, Moriarty even references the Reichenbach falls as where "that man died." Perhaps he got some plastic surgery, and tried to start his EvilPlan all over again, but went more ambitious by using the League?]]
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