History YMMV / TheLeagueOfExtraOrdinaryGentlemen

25th Feb '17 12:24:08 AM Delphi
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** YOU ARE THE SHIT OF THE WORLD! I KILL YOU NOW!
29th Jan '17 10:44:48 AM StarSword
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Shane West (Sawyer) currently plays Michael in ''Series/{{Nikita}}''. It's a little bit funny, because Peta Wilson (Mina) got her start as the lead on ''Film/LaFemmeNikita'', of which ''Nikita'' is a remake.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Shane West (Sawyer) currently plays later played Michael in ''Series/{{Nikita}}''. It's a little bit funny, because Peta Wilson (Mina) got her start as the lead on ''Film/LaFemmeNikita'', of which ''Nikita'' is a remake.
16th Jan '17 5:03:38 PM Homemaderat
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* BrokenBase: In a connection to the example for the comic the film gets this a lot too. The film made a lot of changes to the point of being InNameOnly, this clearly irritated fans who like the comic. But given there is an entry of this trope there too, there were a lot of people who found the comic disappointing (or became disappointing). For this side some of the movie's decisions are called improvements to the comic. Debates about this still spring up to this day on most sites talking about the LoEG.

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* BrokenBase: In a connection to the example for the comic the film gets this a lot too. The film made a lot of changes to the point of being InNameOnly, this clearly irritated fans who like the comic. But given there is an entry of this trope there too, there were a lot of people who found the comic disappointing (or became disappointing). For this side some of the movie's decisions are called improvements to the comic. Debates about this still spring up to this day on most sites talking about the LoEG.movie or comics.
16th Jan '17 4:59:13 PM Homemaderat
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Moore has used the series as a means of [[TakeThat performing mean-spirited hatchet jobs on characters he doesn't like]] since the beginning. The very first volume featured [[Literature/TheInvisibleMan Griffin]] literally raping [[Literature/RebeccaOfSunnybrookFarm Becky Randall]] (including a rather insulting and out-of-character depiction of her as a [[{{Eagleland}} stereotypical "dumb American"]]) and attempting to rape [[{{Literature/Pollyanna}} Pollyanna Whittier]] (whose [[ThePollyanna lack of obvious trauma over the incident]] is played for comedy). But, unlike his treatment of [[spoiler: ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/JamesBond'']], the characters in question were old-tyme enough that they didn't have strong fanbases overlapping with those of the audience to be offended at their treatment. And, ''also'' unlike them, the hatchet-job was a side-note within the plot rather than a central part of the narrative.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Moore has used the series as a means of [[TakeThat performing mean-spirited hatchet jobs on characters he doesn't like]] since the beginning. The very first volume featured [[Literature/TheInvisibleMan Griffin]] literally raping [[Literature/RebeccaOfSunnybrookFarm Becky Randall]] (including a rather insulting and out-of-character depiction of her as a [[{{Eagleland}} stereotypical "dumb American"]]) and attempting to rape [[{{Literature/Pollyanna}} Pollyanna Whittier]] (whose [[ThePollyanna lack of obvious trauma over the incident]] is played for comedy). But, unlike his treatment of [[spoiler: ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/JamesBond'']], the characters in question were old-tyme enough that they didn't have strong fanbases overlapping with those of the audience to be offended at their treatment. And, ''also'' unlike them, the hatchet-job was a side-note within the plot rather than a central part of the narrative.
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narrative. [[note]]Tom Swift became the next victim of this pattern to which he falls in the middle as far as how important he was to the plot, but is more than likely the least known today of the five characters listed.[[/note]]
* GeniusBonus: If you got every single reference in this series without help.....you need to make a lot more pages here at TVTropes.



* BrokenBase: Over ten years old and IMDB still gets a debate several times a year on whether the film tanked for not being like the comic or if that was one of the best decisions it made.

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* BrokenBase: Over ten years old and IMDB still gets In a debate several times a year on whether connection to the film tanked example for not being like the comic or if that was one the film gets this a lot too. The film made a lot of changes to the point of being InNameOnly, this clearly irritated fans who like the comic. But given there is an entry of this trope there too, there were a lot of people who found the comic disappointing (or became disappointing). For this side some of the best movie's decisions it made.are called improvements to the comic. Debates about this still spring up to this day on most sites talking about the LoEG.
29th Dec '16 4:14:23 PM SpectralTime
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** It is also worth noting that in the older volumes Moore dived really deep into the stories in books, plays and myths into building the world of the league. Lots of the major players were there but so were coded references to many little leaguers in comparison. But by the time of ''1969'' and ''2009'', the amount of literary sources takes a severe nosedive. It seems rather awkward for the world of the league to be picked apart so much for having fallen apart, when most of over half a century's worth of characters and stories are completely absent.



* FranchiseOriginalSin: Moore has used the series as a means of [[TakeThat performing mean-spirited hatchet jobs on characters he doesn't like]] since the beginning. The very first volume featured [[Literature/TheInvisibleMan Griffin]] literally raping [[Literature/RebeccaOfSunnybrookFarm Becky Randall]] and attempting to rape [[{{Literature/Pollyanna}} Pollyanna Whittier]]. But, unlike his treatment of [[spoiler: ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/JamesBond'']], the characters in question were old-tyme enough that they didn't have strong fanbases to be offended at their treatment. And, ''also'' unlike them, the hatchet-job was a side-note within the plot rather than a central part of the narrative.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Moore has used the series as a means of [[TakeThat performing mean-spirited hatchet jobs on characters he doesn't like]] since the beginning. The very first volume featured [[Literature/TheInvisibleMan Griffin]] literally raping [[Literature/RebeccaOfSunnybrookFarm Becky Randall]] (including a rather insulting and out-of-character depiction of her as a [[{{Eagleland}} stereotypical "dumb American"]]) and attempting to rape [[{{Literature/Pollyanna}} Pollyanna Whittier]]. Whittier]] (whose [[ThePollyanna lack of obvious trauma over the incident]] is played for comedy). But, unlike his treatment of [[spoiler: ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/JamesBond'']], the characters in question were old-tyme enough that they didn't have strong fanbases overlapping with those of the audience to be offended at their treatment. treatment. And, ''also'' unlike them, the hatchet-job was a side-note within the plot rather than a central part of the narrative.



* HePannedItNowHeSucks: A big part of the reaction towards ''Century: 2009'' comes from the fact that many fans felt that it boiled down to a mean-spirited hatchet-job directed at [[spoiler: Harry Potter]]. Whether fans' reactions were just this trope in action, or whether it was legitimately poorly-done and damaged the work from a literary standpoint is up for debate.

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* HePannedItNowHeSucks: A big part of the reaction towards ''Century: 2009'' comes from the fact that many fans felt that it a big part of the last leg of the story boiled down to a mean-spirited hatchet-job directed at [[spoiler: Harry Potter]]. Whether fans' reactions were just this trope in action, or whether it was legitimately poorly-done and damaged the work from a literary standpoint is up for debate.



** Alan Moore has long been well-known for practicing ceremonial magic and being an avid student of occultism and the mystic arts, and he (in)famously claimed in 2003 that he worships Glycon, a Roman snake god that was once the center of an ancient pagan cult. In 2011, he attracted a bit of controversy for portraying Literature/HarryPotter as a thoroughly unsympathetic {{Antichrist}} figure who's supposedly the epitome of everything wrong with the 21st century. In other words: Moore is an occultist who talks to snakes and has an [[ItsPersonal intense personal hatred]] of Harry Potter. Voldemort? Is that you...?

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** Alan Moore has long been well-known for practicing ceremonial magic and being an avid student of occultism and the mystic arts, and he (in)famously claimed in 2003 that he worships Glycon, a Roman snake god that was once the center of an ancient pagan cult. In 2011, he attracted a bit of controversy for portraying Literature/HarryPotter [[spoiler: Literature/HarryPotter]] as a thoroughly unsympathetic {{Antichrist}} figure who's also supposedly the epitome of everything wrong with the 21st century. In other words: Moore is an occultist who talks to snakes and has an [[ItsPersonal intense personal hatred]] of [[spoiler: Harry Potter. Voldemort? Is that you...??]]



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: The [[AuthorAppeal real]] [[NewMediaAreEvil reason]] is obvious, but from a Watsonian perspective, what happened to almost every major literary character since the middle of the twentieth century?

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: The [[AuthorAppeal real]] [[NewMediaAreEvil reason]] is obvious, but from a Watsonian perspective, what happened to almost every major literary character since the middle of the twentieth century?
century? Indeed, it is worth noting that in the older volumes Moore dove deep into many literary sources in building the world of the league, from the major players to the background characters. But by the time of ''1969'' and ''2009'', the number of literary sources takes a severe nosedive. The world of the League, and therefore, of literature itself, is constantly picked apart and depicted as collapsing, but it falls a bit flat when the reason for that seems to stem from the better part of over half a century's worth of characters and stories are completely absent.

29th Dec '16 4:00:56 PM SpectralTime
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** There's the question of whether Moore's ''really'' TruerToTheText than most other adaptations, or whether he's really just [[DarkerAndEdgier pushing for the darkest possible depictions]] [[AuthorAppeal for his private enjoyment]]. Particular sore spots include: Mina Murray being a divorced woman when she was HappilyMarried to Jonathan Harker in the original novel, [[spoiler: Mr. Hyde raping the Invisible Man, James Bond as an incompetent misogynist psychopathic traitor instead of being a loyal, competent and {{Badass}} ProfessionalKiller, and Harry Potter as a whiny, self-pitying, school-shooting chav strung out on anti-depressants who becomes the Antichrist, which is pretty far off from his actual character]].

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** There's the question of whether Moore's ''really'' TruerToTheText than most other adaptations, or whether he's really just [[DarkerAndEdgier pushing for the darkest possible depictions]] [[AuthorAppeal for his private enjoyment]]. Particular sore spots include: Mina Murray being a divorced woman when she was HappilyMarried to Jonathan Harker in the original novel, [[spoiler: Mr. Hyde raping the Invisible Man, James Bond as an incompetent misogynist psychopathic traitor instead of being a loyal, competent and {{Badass}} ProfessionalKiller, and Harry Potter as a whiny, self-pitying, school-shooting chav strung out on anti-depressants who becomes the Antichrist, which is pretty far off from his actual character]].
29th Dec '16 3:49:38 PM Homemaderat
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** It is also worth noting that in the older volumes Moore dived really deep into the stories in books, plays and myths into building the world of the league. Lots of the major players were there but so were coded references to many little leaguers in comparison. But by the time of ''1969'' and ''2009'', the amount of literary sources takes a severe nosedive. It seems rather awkward for the world of the league to be picked apart so much for having fallen apart, when most of over half a century's worth of characters and stories are completely absent.
28th Sep '16 4:56:50 AM TheWildWestPyro
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** There's the question of whether Moore's ''really'' TruerToTheText than most other adaptations, or whether he's really just [[DarkerAndEdgier pushing for the darkest possible depictions]] [[AuthorAppeal for his private enjoyment]]. Particular sore spots include: Mina Murray being a divorced woman when she was HappilyMarried to Jonathan Harker in the original novel, [[spoiler: Mr. Hyde raping the Invisible Man, James Bond as an incompetent misogynist traitor instead of being a loyal, competent ProfessionalKiller, and Harry Potter as a whiny, self-pitying, school-shooting chav strung out on anti-depressants who becomes the Antichrist, which is pretty far off from his actual character]].

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** There's the question of whether Moore's ''really'' TruerToTheText than most other adaptations, or whether he's really just [[DarkerAndEdgier pushing for the darkest possible depictions]] [[AuthorAppeal for his private enjoyment]]. Particular sore spots include: Mina Murray being a divorced woman when she was HappilyMarried to Jonathan Harker in the original novel, [[spoiler: Mr. Hyde raping the Invisible Man, James Bond as an incompetent misogynist psychopathic traitor instead of being a loyal, competent and {{Badass}} ProfessionalKiller, and Harry Potter as a whiny, self-pitying, school-shooting chav strung out on anti-depressants who becomes the Antichrist, which is pretty far off from his actual character]].
5th Aug '16 9:39:37 PM Anddrix
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* CreatorsPet: Orlando is regarded as some as this in the ''Century'' trilogy. Worth noting though the character is a BaseBreaker who divides opinion.

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* CreatorsPet: Orlando is regarded as some as this in the ''Century'' trilogy. Worth noting though the character is a BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter who divides opinion.



* HePannedItNowHeSucks: A big part of the reaction towards ''[[BaseBreaker Century: 2009]]'' comes from the fact that many fans felt that it boiled down to a mean-spirited hatchet-job directed at [[spoiler: Harry Potter]]. Whether fans' reactions were just this trope in action, or whether it was legitimately poorly-done and damaged the work from a literary standpoint is up for debate.

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* HePannedItNowHeSucks: A big part of the reaction towards ''[[BaseBreaker Century: 2009]]'' ''Century: 2009'' comes from the fact that many fans felt that it boiled down to a mean-spirited hatchet-job directed at [[spoiler: Harry Potter]]. Whether fans' reactions were just this trope in action, or whether it was legitimately poorly-done and damaged the work from a literary standpoint is up for debate.
31st Jul '16 6:31:42 AM DreamerCynist2
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* BaseBreaker: Orlando is this. To some readers, he/she is a BloodKnight who is LivingForeverIsAwesome personified. To other's he/she's a CreatorsPet and a one-note CampGay.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Orlando is this. To some readers, he/she is a BloodKnight who is LivingForeverIsAwesome personified. To other's he/she's a CreatorsPet and a one-note CampGay.
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