History YMMV / TheLastBattle

4th Oct '15 1:49:18 PM Anddrix
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Hate Dumb is Flamebait, Broken Base requires two or more differing opinions not just complaining in general.
* BrokenBase: To this day, many fans are sore at Lewis over how Susan is written out of the story.

* HateDumb: People who claim Susan went to Hell for liking lipsticks and nylons. The reason she isn't in Heaven is because she isn't dead yet, and she can get there in her own time. ** Condemnation of Susan was clearly intended in the work, the debatable issue is exactly how much and for what.
4th Oct '15 1:38:00 PM butterflygrrl
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** Condemnation of Susan was clearly intended in the work, the debatable issue is exactly how much and for what.
16th Sep '15 4:50:51 AM MrThorfan64
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* HateDumb: People who claim Susan went to Hell for liking lipsticks and nylons. The reasons she isn't in Heaven is because she isn't dead yet, and she can get there in her own time.
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* HateDumb: People who claim Susan went to Hell for liking lipsticks and nylons. The reasons reason she isn't in Heaven is because she isn't dead yet, and she can get there in her own time.
16th Sep '15 4:50:37 AM MrThorfan64
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* HateDumb: People who claim Susan went to Hell for liking lipsticks and nylons. The reasons she isn't in Heaven is because she isn't dead yet, and she can get there in her own time.

19th Aug '15 12:16:50 PM JoieDeCombat
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Edit for objectivity; not everyone considers her to have been "thrown under the bus" or sees it as serving no purpose.
* BrokenBase: To this day, many fans are sore at Lewis throwing Susan under the bus out of nowhere, and for seemingly no story purpose.
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* BrokenBase: To this day, many fans are sore at Lewis throwing over how Susan under the bus is written out of nowhere, and for seemingly no story purpose.the story.
13th Apr '15 5:33:10 PM MagBas
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unfortunate implications need links to the citations
* UnfortunateImplications: The treatment of Susan in this book is one of the most discussed controversies in literary history. Simply put, Lewis has been accused of SlutShaming, depicting Susan's "maturity" as a ticket to hell. Even notorious christian writers like Creator/JoanneKathleenRowling have voiced displeasure at this: ->"There comes a point where Susan, who was the older girl, is lost to Narnia because she becomes interested in lipstick. [[SlutShaming She’s become irreligious basically because she found sex]]. I have a big problem with that." ** On a lesser note, the dwarves have often been discussed as non-flattering parallels to jews or atheists.
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* UnfortunateImplications: The treatment of Susan in this book is one of the most discussed controversies in literary history. Simply put, Lewis has been accused of SlutShaming, depicting Susan's "maturity" as a ticket to hell. Even notorious christian writers like Creator/JoanneKathleenRowling have voiced displeasure at this: ->"There comes a point where Susan, who was the older girl, is lost to Narnia because she becomes interested in lipstick. [[SlutShaming She’s become irreligious basically because she found sex]]. I have a big problem with that." ** On a lesser note, the dwarves have often been discussed as non-flattering parallels to jews or atheists.
23rd Mar '15 12:19:34 PM Shimegi
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Narnian fan hypocrisy knows no bounds
* WordOfGod[=/=]ShrugOfGod: Susan missed the train this time, but Lewis asserted all hope wasn't lost for her, and she still has a chance to join her family later.
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* WordOfGod[=/=]ShrugOfGod: UnfortunateImplications: The treatment of Susan missed the train in this time, but book is one of the most discussed controversies in literary history. Simply put, Lewis asserted all hope wasn't has been accused of SlutShaming, depicting Susan's "maturity" as a ticket to hell. Even notorious christian writers like Creator/JoanneKathleenRowling have voiced displeasure at this: ->"There comes a point where Susan, who was the older girl, is lost for her, and to Narnia because she still has becomes interested in lipstick. [[SlutShaming She’s become irreligious basically because she found sex]]. I have a chance big problem with that." ** On a lesser note, the dwarves have often been discussed as non-flattering parallels to join her family later.jews or atheists.
14th Feb '15 3:26:24 PM Eegah
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* BrokenBase: To this day, many fans are sore at Lewis throwing Susan under the bus out of nowhere, and for seemingly no story purpose.
10th Jan '15 6:08:33 PM MagBas
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unfortunate implications need citations
* ValuesDissonance: In order to hide from the Calormenes, the King, Eustace and Jill disguise themselves in {{brownface}}. It wound up being necessary, but a more modern novel would have at least taken a moment to note the UnfortunateImplications.
15th Dec '14 12:24:34 PM Julia1984
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Authors Saving Throw is when an author quickly writes/designs/adds something to repair something from earlier, not giving more details via Word Of God
* AuthorsSavingThrow: From just reading the book, you'd think that the reason [[spoiler:Susan didn't get to Heaven]] was that [[spoiler:she stopped believing in Narnia]]. WordOfGod later claimed that the actual reason was [[spoiler:merely that she was still alive]]. * EsotericHappyEnding: A fairly well-known one. [[spoiler:Everyone died and went to Heaven, er, Narnia. But not Susan, because she sucks for moving beyond Narnia. That, and WordOfGod said she didn't actually die. He did add a caveat (in a letter) that she ''could'' get to Narnia in her own way.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: From just reading the book, you'd think that the reason [[spoiler:Susan didn't get to Heaven]] was that [[spoiler:she stopped believing in Narnia]]. WordOfGod later claimed that the actual reason was [[spoiler:merely that she was still alive]]. * EsotericHappyEnding: A fairly well-known one. [[spoiler:Everyone died and went to Heaven, er, Narnia. But not Susan, because since she sucks for moving beyond Narnia. That, and WordOfGod said no longer believed in Narnia, she didn't actually die. He did add join them on the journey where they all died. C.S. Lewis stated in a caveat (in a letter) letter that she ''could'' get to Narnia in "in her own way.]]time."]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: From just reading WordOfGod[=/=]ShrugOfGod: Susan missed the book, you'd think that the reason [[spoiler:Susan didn't get to Heaven]] was that [[spoiler:she stopped believing in Narnia]]. WordOfGod later claimed that the actual reason was [[spoiler:merely that train this time, but Lewis asserted all hope wasn't lost for her, and she was still alive]]. * EsotericHappyEnding: A fairly well-known one. [[spoiler:Everyone died and went has a chance to Heaven, er, Narnia. But not Susan, because she sucks for moving beyond Narnia. That, and WordOfGod said she didn't actually die. He did add a caveat (in a letter) that she ''could'' get to Narnia in join her own way.]]family later.
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