History YMMV / TheHunchbackOfNotreDame

22nd Apr '18 10:37:35 PM windleopard
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22nd Apr '18 10:37:33 PM windleopard
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** Mind you, Phoebus was,until recently, the captain of the guards and Quasimodo is Frollo's man servant. Add in that Frollo is on a rampage because of Esmeralda and Clopin has very good reason to believe they a

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** Mind you, Phoebus was,until recently, the captain of the guards and Quasimodo is Frollo's man servant. Add in that Frollo is on a rampage because of Esmeralda and Clopin has very good reason to believe they aQuasi and Pheobus really are spies.
22nd Apr '18 9:38:43 PM windleopard
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** Mind you, Phoebus was,until recently, the captain of the guards and Quasimodo is Frollo's man servant. Add in that Frollo is on a rampage because of Esmeralda and Clopin has very good reason to believe they a
22nd Apr '18 4:06:18 AM SorPepita
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* VindicatedByHistory: When it was released, it was a moderate hit with both critics and audiences - the consensus was "Hey, it was better than ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', but nowhere near as good as ''Disney/TheLionKing'' or ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''". However, in the years since the film's release it's now far more common to see people praising the movie as not only the best movie of the Disney Renaissance, but one of Disney's most ambitious films ever, thanks to its dark storyline and heavy themes of prejudice, social injustice, lust, eternal damnation, and powerful religious imagery. Frollo is frequently brought up as one of Disney's most frightening and memorable villains because the of the relative realism of his monstrous beliefs and actions, which only makes them ''more'' horrifying.

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* VindicatedByHistory: When it was released, it was a moderate hit with both critics and audiences - the consensus was "Hey, it was better than ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'', but nowhere near as good as ''Disney/TheLionKing'' or ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''". However, in the years since the film's release it's now far more common to see people praising the movie as not only the best movie of the Disney Renaissance, but one of Disney's most ambitious films ever, thanks to its dark storyline and heavy themes of prejudice, social injustice, lust, eternal damnation, and powerful religious imagery. Frollo is frequently brought up as one of Disney's most frightening and memorable villains because the of the relative realism of his monstrous beliefs and actions, which only makes them ''more'' horrifying.
22nd Apr '18 4:01:58 AM SorPepita
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** Despite spending all its time kicking dogs, his HiddenDepths are hinted at once in the movie: the VillainSong. Is he NecessarilyEvil and hates himself for it, does he actually hate himself for lusting towards Esmeralda or is he just a deluded KnightTemplar ? Is it a real epiphany that throws him more into madness or an IgnoredEpiphany ? No one knows, so it adds a layer of depth to the character.

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** Despite spending all its time kicking dogs, his HiddenDepths are hinted at once in the movie: the VillainSong. Is he NecessarilyEvil and hates himself for it, does he actually hate himself for lusting towards Esmeralda or is he just a deluded KnightTemplar ? KnightTemplar? Is it a real epiphany that throws him more into madness or an IgnoredEpiphany ? IgnoredEpiphany? No one knows, so it adds a layer of depth to the character.
22nd Apr '18 4:00:24 AM SorPepita
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*** The Latin in this scene is the culmination of the Latin singing of the Confiteor, the prayer used during the Sacrament of Confession in the Catholic Church. The three other lines are translated as "I have sinned against the father", "In my thoughts", "words and deeds". Each line is placed to counter a claim of Frollo's in the song (that he's purer than others, that he doesn't want to think about Esmerelda, and that what he's saying and doing are beyond his control). This is significant as the Catholic Church believes that sin can only exist if you willing commit the act. As a man of faith, Frollo would be aware of this prayer, the significance of Confession, and that even when he is trying to confess, he's doing it wrong. In addition, the purpose of confessing to a priest is an act of humility. By telling another living person, you are willing to open yourself. By doing this alone, Frollo's is not correctly performing the sacrament.

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*** The Latin in this scene is the culmination of the Latin singing of the Confiteor, the prayer used during the Sacrament of Confession in the Catholic Church. The three other lines are translated as "I have sinned against the father", "In my thoughts", and "words and deeds". Each line is placed to counter a claim of Frollo's in the song (that he's purer than others, that he doesn't want to think about Esmerelda, Esmeralda, and that what he's saying and doing are beyond his control). This is significant as the Catholic Church believes that sin can only exist if you willing commit the act. As a man of faith, Frollo would be aware of this prayer, the significance of Confession, and that even when he is trying to confess, he's doing it wrong. In addition, the purpose of confessing to a priest is an act of humility. By telling another living person, you are willing to open yourself. By doing this alone, Frollo's is not correctly performing the sacrament.
22nd Apr '18 3:58:41 AM SorPepita
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* FanPreferredCouple: As mentioned on this page, [[DidNotGetTheGirl Quasimodo/Esmeralda]] (because he is TheHero and the film's [[TrueBeautyIsOnTheInside aesop of loving beyond appearances]]) and [[NoYay Frollo/Esmeralda]] (for...[[MisaimedFandom some]] [[DracoInLeatherPants reason]]).

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* FanPreferredCouple: As mentioned on this page, [[DidNotGetTheGirl Quasimodo/Esmeralda]] (because he is TheHero and the film's [[TrueBeautyIsOnTheInside aesop of loving beyond appearances]]) and [[NoYay Frollo/Esmeralda]] (for... [[MisaimedFandom some]] [[DracoInLeatherPants reason]]).



*** 'Kyrie Eleison', a refrain which is repeated throughout the film, means 'Lord have Mercy'...appropriate.

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*** 'Kyrie Eleison', a refrain which is repeated throughout the film, means 'Lord have Mercy'... appropriate.
22nd Apr '18 3:57:37 AM SorPepita
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-->'''Frollo:''' God have mercy on her...God have mercy on me...

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-->'''Frollo:''' God have mercy on her... God have mercy on me...
22nd Apr '18 3:56:11 AM SorPepita
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* CatharsisFactor: Well, not like anyone wasn't hoping for it, but after seeing Frollo murder Quasimodo's mother in cold blood, torture one of his men, burn Paris out of genocidal hatred for gypsies, seeing him fall into a molten mass is rather fulfilling.

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* CatharsisFactor: Well, not like anyone wasn't hoping for it, but after seeing Frollo murder Quasimodo's mother in cold blood, torture one of his men, and burn Paris out of genocidal hatred for gypsies, seeing him fall into a molten mass is rather fulfilling.
22nd Apr '18 3:55:19 AM SorPepita
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* BrokenBase: Quasimodo not winning Esmeralda's love in the end is a major point of contention, as it's one of the few times Disney subverted the true love ending between the leading man and woman. Either it sends a wrong message about ugly people not deserving true love, or a refreshing change of pace for demonstrating Esmeralda's right to choose (SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped explains that argument further).

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* BrokenBase: Quasimodo not winning Esmeralda's love in the end is a major point of contention, as it's one of the few times Disney subverted the true love ending between the leading man and woman. Either it sends a wrong message about ugly people not deserving true love, or it's a refreshing change of pace for demonstrating Esmeralda's right to choose (SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped explains that argument further).



** The reasons why some don't like the movie are varied. Either they're turned off by the whole fandom treating it as a sacred cow, and find the uneven mood, unfaithfulness to the source material, or weird combo of cutesy Disney morals and jokes combined with such a dark story of sexual perversion and racism to be rather jarring.

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** The reasons why some don't like the movie are varied. Either they're turned off by the whole fandom treating it as a sacred cow, and or find the uneven mood, unfaithfulness to the source material, or weird combo of cutesy Disney morals and jokes combined with such a dark story of sexual perversion and racism to be rather jarring.
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