History YMMV / TheHeroesOfOlympus

19th Apr '17 4:00:35 PM MasterFuzzy
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*** Like most things with this version of Zeus the excuses sound good until you really look at it. Several of the giants had already risen before Zeus closed off Olympus and Apollo has no control over when prophecies are spoken making the war inevitable. Zeus is using this to try and avoid the fact his pride was hurt that mortals saved the gods from the Titans and he was trying to say the gods did not need mortals. If they had followed Zeus' "do-nothing plan." The gods would have made no preparations and been destroyed.

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*** Like most things with this version of Zeus the excuses sound good until you really look at it. Several of the giants had already risen before Zeus closed off Olympus and Apollo has no control over when prophecies are spoken making the war inevitable. Zeus is using this to try and avoid the fact his pride was hurt that mortals saved the gods from the Titans and he was trying to say the gods did not need mortals. If they had followed Zeus' "do-nothing plan." The plan," the gods would have made no preparations and been destroyed.destroyed.
*** Of course, this is totally in-character for Zeus, both of the original mythology and the series.



* {{Anvilicious}}: Aphrodite kids aren't useless! Look at all the cool powers they have!!

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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower Aphrodite kids aren't useless! Look at all the cool powers they have!!have!!]]



** It's pretty much confirmed that [[spoiler: Nico has a crush on Will. It's never explicitly stated, but the implications are not subtle]].

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** It's pretty much confirmed that [[spoiler: Nico has a crush on Will. It's never explicitly stated, but the implications are not subtle]]. They have become an OfficialCouple by Trials of Apollo.



* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Leo/Reyna and Leo/Nico are surprisingly popular for pairings involving characters that don't have much overall interaction.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Leo/Reyna and Leo/Nico are surprisingly popular for pairings involving characters that don't have much overall interaction. Partially this is a case of PairTheSpares.



* ToughActToFollow: After the previous series ended in the incredibly high note of ''The Last Olympian'', some of this is to be expected.

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* ToughActToFollow: After the previous series ended in the incredibly high note of ''The Last Olympian'', some of this is to be expected. In-universe, Jason gets this to Percy.



** The minor gods in general. Take Morpheus, god of dreams. A camper could pull Film/{{Inception}}-style dream entries, or perhaps have supernatural powers of illusion. The possibilities are endless with minor gods like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_gods Deimos, god of fear; Hebe, goddess of youth; Lyssa, goddess of rage; Panacaea, goddess of healing; even Plutus, god of wealth]]; but the only minor gods even given a named child are Hypnos, god of sleep, whose children are [[BlessedWithSuck narcoleptic]], and Iris, goddess of the rainbow, who doesn't even appear to give any powers to her son.

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** The minor gods in general. Take Morpheus, god of dreams. A camper could pull Film/{{Inception}}-style dream entries, or perhaps have supernatural powers of illusion. The possibilities are endless with minor gods like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_gods Deimos, god of fear; Hebe, goddess of youth; Lyssa, goddess of rage; Panacaea, goddess of healing; even Plutus, god of wealth]]; but the only minor gods even given a named child are Hypnos, god of sleep, whose children are [[BlessedWithSuck narcoleptic]], and Iris, goddess of the rainbow, who doesn't even appear to give any powers to her son.son (although we never see him do much, so this is debatable).


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*** In fairness, there's only so much room in the series.


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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Piper, to a certain extent. Some love how she [[TookALevelInBadass took several levels in badass]], proved that HeartIsAnAwesomePower, and showed her worth as both an ActionHero and GuileHero despite her lack of combat-useful powers. Others feel that she's still obsessed with looks (she finds Percy to be scrawny and unimpressive and falls for Jason, probably the most physically attractive of the Seven) and is at least a bit of a CreatorsPet.
6th Jan '17 7:22:45 PM nombretomado
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** The minor gods in general. Take Morpheus, god of dreams. A camper could pull {{Inception}}-style dream entries, or perhaps have supernatural powers of illusion. The possibilities are endless with minor gods like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_gods Deimos, god of fear; Hebe, goddess of youth; Lyssa, goddess of rage; Panacaea, goddess of healing; even Plutus, god of wealth]]; but the only minor gods even given a named child are Hypnos, god of sleep, whose children are [[BlessedWithSuck narcoleptic]], and Iris, goddess of the rainbow, who doesn't even appear to give any powers to her son.

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** The minor gods in general. Take Morpheus, god of dreams. A camper could pull {{Inception}}-style Film/{{Inception}}-style dream entries, or perhaps have supernatural powers of illusion. The possibilities are endless with minor gods like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_gods Deimos, god of fear; Hebe, goddess of youth; Lyssa, goddess of rage; Panacaea, goddess of healing; even Plutus, god of wealth]]; but the only minor gods even given a named child are Hypnos, god of sleep, whose children are [[BlessedWithSuck narcoleptic]], and Iris, goddess of the rainbow, who doesn't even appear to give any powers to her son.
30th Oct '16 3:27:15 PM dlchen145
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: While not a terrible read ''The Lost Hero'' was a rather lackluster opening to the series, with the neglect of [[{{DemotedToExtra}} previous heroes]], [[{{Wangst}} Piper]] and [[{{FlatCharacter}} Jason's]] characterization and [[{{RomanticPlotTumour}} the focus on their relationship]] getting the most criticism. ''The Son of Neptune'' however saw the return of the beloved [[{{TheHero}} Percy]], brought back EnsembleDarkhorse Nico, introduced the BadAss Roman Camp and new characters Frank, Hazel and Reyna were much better-received.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: While not a terrible read ''The Lost Hero'' was a rather lackluster opening to the series, with the neglect of [[{{DemotedToExtra}} previous heroes]], [[{{Wangst}} Piper]] and [[{{FlatCharacter}} Jason's]] characterization and [[{{RomanticPlotTumour}} the focus on their relationship]] getting the most criticism. ''The Son of Neptune'' however saw the return of the beloved [[{{TheHero}} Percy]], brought back EnsembleDarkhorse Nico, introduced the BadAss badass Roman Camp and new characters Frank, Hazel and Reyna were much better-received.
7th Aug '16 8:00:20 PM Iris
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the last book, an exasperated Annabeth tells Piper her IndyPloy to help them get into an enemy's territory was the dumbest risk she'd ever seen anyone take, and she dates a dumb risk-taker. [[spoiler: Come the next chapter he features in and Percy admits that he's been letting his reckless tendencies get the best of him because his guilt over [[ColdBloodedTorture what he did to Akhlys]] had been hounding him so much he felt he deserved the punishment he took in battle. Even if it meant his life.]] Yeah.
4th Aug '16 6:53:51 PM Anddrix
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*** There are also a lot of fans who enjoyed Nico and Reyna's perspectives, but disliked the rest of the focus going to Jason, Piper and Leo at the expense of the rest of the Seven, as Jason and Piper have consistently [[BaseBreaker come under the most criticism]] and that the 'The Lost Hero' which focused exclusively on the three of them is already considered the weakest of the series. It also doesn't help that the three of them got more of their fair share of point of view time: Piper and Leo had point of view chapters in four out of five books, and Jason in three (and still got major focus in a fourth) while Annabeth, Hazel and Frank only narrated ''two'' books.

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*** There are also a lot of fans who enjoyed Nico and Reyna's perspectives, but disliked the rest of the focus going to Jason, Piper and Leo at the expense of the rest of the Seven, as Jason and Piper have consistently [[BaseBreaker come under the most criticism]] criticism and that the 'The Lost Hero' which focused exclusively on the three of them is already considered the weakest of the series. It also doesn't help that the three of them got more of their fair share of point of view time: Piper and Leo had point of view chapters in four out of five books, and Jason in three (and still got major focus in a fourth) while Annabeth, Hazel and Frank only narrated ''two'' books.
13th Jul '16 6:29:34 PM RaViola
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*** StoicWoobie: Reyna. Just... [[BrokenBird Reyna]].
** Nico. Freaking. di Angelo. Adding to his baggage from the first series, he escaped Tartarus, which was traumatizing for [[spoiler: even Percy and Annabeth (who are some of the most badass characters in the series)]], and then watched Percy [[spoiler:fall with Annabeth into Tartarus.]] Okay, that's pretty bad, but then it's revealed that [[spoiler:Nico is gay/bi and he had a crush on Percy! His reaction to having to admit it to Cupid in front of Jason is ''[[TearJerker heartbreaking]]'', made worse when Jason realizes that Nico was born in the 1930's, when that would have been completely unacceptable and also illegal.]] At this rate, the fans are ''desperate'' for him to be happy.

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*** ** StoicWoobie: Reyna. Just... [[BrokenBird Reyna]].
Reyna]]. [[spoiler: She was born to an abusive father who one day knocked out Reyna's sister, Hylla, causing Reyna to panic and ''stab his manic spirit'' into oblivion. The two sisters flee to Circe's island where they worked hard to become Circe's favorite attendants, only for Percy to release Blackbeard the pirate from captivity, effectively destroying the haven that Reyna found there. Ultimately, Reyna separated from her sister to go to Camp Jupiter, where her skills presumably led her to becoming preator to the legion -but she has to fearfully protect the secret of her ''killing her father'' because Romans punish this crime with death.]]
** Nico. Freaking. di Angelo. Adding to his baggage from the first series, he escaped Tartarus, Tartarus [[spoiler:(only to be imprisoned in a bronze jar by twin Giants)]], which was traumatizing for [[spoiler: even Percy and Annabeth (who are some of the most badass characters in the series)]], and then watched Percy [[spoiler:fall with Annabeth into Tartarus.Tartarus. ]] Okay, that's pretty bad, but then it's revealed that [[spoiler:Nico is gay/bi and he had a crush on Percy! His reaction to having to admit it to Cupid in front of Jason is ''[[TearJerker heartbreaking]]'', made worse when Jason realizes that Nico was born in the 1930's, when that would have been completely unacceptable and also illegal.]] At this rate, the fans are ''desperate'' for him to be happy.
6th Jul '16 7:26:22 PM AnoneMouseJr.
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*** There are also a lot of fans who enjoyed Nico and Reyna's perspectives, but disliked the rest of the focus going to Jason, Piper and Leo at the expense of the rest of the Seven, as Jason and Piper have consistently [[{{BaseBreakers}} come under the most criticism]] and that the 'The Lost Hero' which focused exclusively on the three of them is already considered the weakest of the series. It also doesn't help that the three of them got more of their fair share of point of view time: Piper and Leo had point of view chapters in four out of five books, and Jason in three (and still got major focus in a fourth) while Annabeth, Hazel and Frank only narrated ''two'' books.

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*** There are also a lot of fans who enjoyed Nico and Reyna's perspectives, but disliked the rest of the focus going to Jason, Piper and Leo at the expense of the rest of the Seven, as Jason and Piper have consistently [[{{BaseBreakers}} [[BaseBreaker come under the most criticism]] and that the 'The Lost Hero' which focused exclusively on the three of them is already considered the weakest of the series. It also doesn't help that the three of them got more of their fair share of point of view time: Piper and Leo had point of view chapters in four out of five books, and Jason in three (and still got major focus in a fourth) while Annabeth, Hazel and Frank only narrated ''two'' books.
26th Mar '16 7:51:08 PM MagBas
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* MarySue and MartyStu: Virtually all of the new main characters have been accused of this. Whether or not it's actually true is largely subjective, and dependent on how each reader defines the term. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement We]] ''[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement really]]'' [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement shouldn't go any deeper into the subject than that.]].
6th Feb '16 12:15:22 PM Silverblade2
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* CompleteMonster: ''Bryce Lawrence.'' Arguably to a fault, as his sadism and extreme arrogance are his only real traits as a character. He takes great pleasure the suffering and agony of others, especially if it is unjust.[[spoiler: When he captures Reyna after overhearing her confess to killing her father (except not really), he seems downright ''giddy'' about the prospect of her being tied into a sack with a dog and thrown into a river, the punishment for patricide in Ancient Rome. Not that he doesn't get his comeuppance - Nico ''forcibly turns him into a ghost'' and sends him directly into the Fields of Punishment.]]
15th Jan '16 11:04:51 PM dartblaze
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* CreatorsPet: Arguably, Piper. She gets quite a bit of focus, is beloved by all, inhumanly beautiful, stands as the moral pillar of the team and most of her appearances in the latter books have her whipping out new powers as the plot demands, even when they don't make sense. To recap, she can bring inanimate objects to life, control snake-men through song, hold her own against the most talented sowrdsmen and her charmspeak becomes so improbably powerful that she can talk a primordial deity into going back to sleep.

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* CreatorsPet: Arguably, Piper. She gets quite a bit of focus, is beloved by all, inhumanly beautiful, stands as the moral pillar of the team and most of her appearances in the latter books have her whipping out new powers as the plot demands, even when they don't make sense. To recap, she can bring inanimate objects to life, control snake-men through song, hold her own against the most talented sowrdsmen swordsmen and her charmspeak becomes so improbably powerful that she can talk a primordial deity into going back to sleep.
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