History YMMV / TheGraduate

22nd Mar '16 6:28:08 PM Mdumas43073
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Yes, it is based on a novel. (By Charles Webb: his Ben is a good deal stronger than movie-Ben.) Ben in the book is a blond jock. No wonder they auditioned Robert Redford for the role, and no wonder Creator/MelBrooks was confident Dustin Hoffman would fail ''his'' audition, and be available to work in ''Film/TheProducers''.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Yes, it is based on a novel. (By Charles Webb: his Ben is a good deal stronger than movie-Ben.) Ben in the book is a blond jock. No wonder they auditioned Robert Redford Creator/RobertRedford for the role, and no wonder Creator/MelBrooks was confident Dustin Hoffman would fail ''his'' audition, and be available to work in ''Film/TheProducers''.
22nd Mar '16 6:25:53 PM Mdumas43073
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: The film is much like Mike Nichols' films - they're more subversive that they seem to be at the time. For example, the advice "Plastics"? It's ''good advice''. The part about plastics [[MisBlamed was unintentional]] - shortly after the movie was released, new advances in plastics production (that the script writers were highly unlikely to know about) caused the industry to grow at an extremely rapid pace. The fortuitous timing did result in the entire plastics industry becoming a PeripheryDemographic.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: The film is much like Like many of Mike Nichols' films - they're films, this one is more subversive that they seem than it seemed to be at the time. For example, the advice "Plastics"? It's ''good advice''. The part about plastics [[MisBlamed was unintentional]] - shortly after the movie was released, new advances in plastics production (that the script writers were highly unlikely to know about) caused the industry to grow at an extremely rapid pace. The fortuitous timing did result in the entire plastics industry becoming a PeripheryDemographic.
22nd Mar '16 6:24:29 PM Mdumas43073
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** Speaking of Richard Dreyfuss, he would later butt heads with Mr. Robinson after the latter apparently became [[Film/{{Jaws}} mayor of Amity Island]].



** Mr. Robinson apparently became [[Film/{{Jaws}} mayor of Amity Island]] after divorcing Mrs. Robinson.
22nd Mar '16 6:22:54 PM Mdumas43073
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** Look closely at the boarding house resident who offers to get the cops after Elaine screams. It's a very young Richard Dreyfuss.

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** Look closely at the boarding house resident who offers to get the cops after Elaine screams. It's a very young Richard Dreyfuss.Creator/RichardDreyfuss.


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** Mr. Robinson apparently became [[Film/{{Jaws}} mayor of Amity Island]] after divorcing Mrs. Robinson.
17th Mar '15 9:28:49 PM KingClark
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Yes, it is based on a novel. (By Charles Webb: his Ben is a good deal stronger than movie-Ben.)
** Ben in the book is a blond jock. No wonder they auditioned Robert Redford for the role, and no wonder Creator/MelBrooks was confident Dustin Hoffman would fail ''his'' audition, and be available to work in ''Film/TheProducers''.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The diving suit scene.
** The diving suit scene was meant to link Ben to the little diver figure in his aquarium he was looking at earlier on. Notice that when he sinks to the bottom of the pool, he stops moving and just lays there stiffly.
** There is also a bizarre moment when the camera stops focusing on Ben and zooms in on a gorilla in the background.
*** The song playing is referring to being with someone, as it shows monkeys together, and then shows the gorilla after Ben to signify he is alone.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: So many. Especially the ending.
** Ben's initial attempt to procure a room at the Taft Hotel is another prime example.
* DesignatedHero: Much of Ebert's re-review is about feeling [[FridgeLogic 30 years later]] that there's absolutely nothing good or admirable about Ben.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Yes, it is based on a novel. (By Charles Webb: his Ben is a good deal stronger than movie-Ben.)
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) Ben in the book is a blond jock. No wonder they auditioned Robert Redford for the role, and no wonder Creator/MelBrooks was confident Dustin Hoffman would fail ''his'' audition, and be available to work in ''Film/TheProducers''.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The diving suit scene.
A few scenes come across as this to first-time-viewers, but actually have symbolism:
** The diving suit scene seems disconnected from the rest of the narrative. Nonetheless, it was meant to link Ben to the little diver figure in his aquarium he was looking at earlier on. Notice that when he sinks to the bottom of the pool, he stops moving and just lays there stiffly.
** There is also a bizarre moment when the camera stops focusing on Ben and zooms in on a gorilla in the background.
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background. The song playing is referring to being with someone, as it shows monkeys together, and then shows the gorilla after Ben to signify he is alone.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: So many. Especially the ending.
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ending. Ben's initial attempt to procure a room at the Taft Hotel is another prime example.
* DesignatedHero: Much of Ebert's re-review is about feeling [[FridgeLogic 30 years later]] later that there's absolutely nothing good or admirable about Ben.



*** "I am not trying to seduce you..." ''[[hottip:*: When I dance, they call me Macarena...]]''
** Don't forget: "Just one word: Plastics."

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*** "I am not trying to seduce you..." ''[[hottip:*: When I dance, they call me Macarena...]]''
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** Don't forget: "Just one word: Plastics."



* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Ben fighting people off with a cross in the [[spoiler: wedding scene]]. Dude, sweet.

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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
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Ben fighting people off with a cross in the [[spoiler: wedding scene]].scene. Dude, sweet.



* MoralEventHorizon: Sure, Ebert saw nothing admirable about Ben after 30 years, but Mrs. Robinson undeniably crosses the MEH by pulling Elaine out of college simply because Ben was getting too romantically attracted to her. Granted, she wanted to make sure the two were separated forever, but [[MisplacedRetribution going so far as to deny her own daughter a college-level education, even in order to achieve such means]]? That just proves what vision the filmmakers were apparently going for (as mentioned under MisaimedFandom above).

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* MoralEventHorizon: Sure, Ebert saw nothing admirable about Ben after 30 years, but MoralEventHorizon:
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Mrs. Robinson undeniably crosses the MEH by pulling Elaine out of college simply because Ben was getting too romantically attracted to her. Granted, she wanted to make sure the two were separated forever, but [[MisplacedRetribution going so far as to deny her own daughter a college-level education, even in order to achieve such means]]? That just proves what vision the filmmakers were apparently going for (as mentioned under MisaimedFandom above).



* RetroactiveRecognition: Look closely at the boarding house resident who offers to get the cops after Elaine screams. It's a very young Richard Dreyfuss.

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Look closely at the boarding house resident who offers to get the cops after Elaine screams. It's a very young Richard Dreyfuss.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: The film is much like Mike Nichols' films - they're more subversive that they seem to be at the time. For example, the advice "Plastics"? It's ''good advice''.
** The part about plastics [[MisBlamed was unintentional]] - shortly after the movie was released, new advances in plastics production (that the script writers were highly unlikely to know about) caused the industry to grow at an extremely rapid pace. The fortuitous timing did result in the entire plastics industry becoming a PeripheryDemographic.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: The film is much like Mike Nichols' films - they're more subversive that they seem to be at the time. For example, the advice "Plastics"? It's ''good advice''.
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advice''. The part about plastics [[MisBlamed was unintentional]] - shortly after the movie was released, new advances in plastics production (that the script writers were highly unlikely to know about) caused the industry to grow at an extremely rapid pace. The fortuitous timing did result in the entire plastics industry becoming a PeripheryDemographic.
PeripheryDemographic.
27th Aug '14 5:23:17 AM movieman6456
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***The song playing is referring to being with someone, as it shows monkeys together, and then shows the gorilla after Ben to signify he is alone.
15th Aug '14 1:14:02 AM Scabbard
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* MisaimedFandom: Kids from the 1960's cheered Ben. Twenty years later, they cheered for Mrs. Robinson, when they realized WhatAnIdiot Ben was. (Creator/RogerEbert notes this in his re-review ). A more modern perspective, and presumably closest to the original vision of the film, is that they're ''all'' messed up and not terribly likeable.

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* MisaimedFandom: Kids from the 1960's cheered Ben. Twenty years later, they cheered for Mrs. Robinson, when they realized WhatAnIdiot Ben was. (Creator/RogerEbert notes this in his re-review ). re-review.) A more modern perspective, and presumably closest to the original vision of the film, is that they're ''all'' messed up and not terribly likeable.
15th Aug '14 1:12:55 AM Scabbard
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Yes, it is based on a novel. (By Charles Webb: his Ben is a good deal stronger than movie-Ben)

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Yes, it is based on a novel. (By Charles Webb: his Ben is a good deal stronger than movie-Ben)movie-Ben.)
9th Jul '14 6:08:49 AM Mdumas43073
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** Mike Nichols' wife, Creator/ElaineMay, can be seen bringing the DearJohnLetter from Elaine to Benjamin.

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** Mike Nichols' wife, Creator/ElaineMay, Creator/ElaineMay can be seen bringing the DearJohnLetter from Elaine to Benjamin.
9th Jul '14 6:07:52 AM Mdumas43073
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** Mike Nichols' wife Creator/ElaineMay can be seen bringing the DearJohnLetter from Elaine to Benjamin.

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** Mike Nichols' wife Creator/ElaineMay wife, Creator/ElaineMay, can be seen bringing the DearJohnLetter from Elaine to Benjamin.
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