History YMMV / TheGodfather

19th Jan '17 4:46:34 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The singer at the New Years Eve party in Part II is Ivonne Coll, now well known as Alba in ''Series/JaneTheVirgin''. Also, a very early but noticeable bit part for Danny Aiello.

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The singer at the New Years Eve party in Part II is Ivonne Coll, now well known as Alba in ''Series/JaneTheVirgin''. Also, a very early but noticeable bit part for ''Series/JaneTheVirgin''.
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Danny Aiello.Aiello (''Film/DoTheRightThing'', ''Film/HudsonHawk'') plays one of the Rosatto Brothers in Part II.
** Also in Part II, Creator/HarryDeanStanton is one of the FBI guys guarding Frank Pentagelli when he's a witness for the Senate against Michael.
** Furthermore, Dominic Chianese (Uncle Junior in ''Series/TheSopranos'') plays Johnny Ola.
** One of the children in Part III is Jessica DiCocco, a voice actress known for more recent works such as ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' (Flame Princess), ''ResonanceOfFate'' (Leanne) and ''FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''.
2nd Jan '17 11:22:55 AM JulianLapostat
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* FandomRivalry: This movie's fandom has one with Film/TheDarkKnight's, and now, Film/TheShawshankRedemption's, over which movie deserves to be #1 on IMDB's Top 250 movies of all time list, see Shawshank's YMMV page for full details.

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This movie's fandom has one with Film/TheDarkKnight's, and now, Film/TheShawshankRedemption's, over which movie deserves to be #1 on IMDB's Top 250 movies of all time list, see Shawshank's YMMV page for full details.details.
** Fans of Scorsese's gangster films Film/MeanStreets and especially, Film/GoodFellas tend to insist that the latter is more realistic, more truthful and less sentimental than Film/TheGodfather, and expect people to debate which is the better "gangster" film. Note that this is only among fans, Scorsese and Coppola are themselves good friends and Coppola even cast Catherine Scorsese, Martin's mother who would often cameo in her son's films (and shared a famous scene in Film/GoodFellas) in Film/TheGodfatherPartIII.
29th Dec '16 5:36:47 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: As long as you don't look too closely, the mob life looks ''very attractive'' when you can live it like Michael and Fredo and the rest. Even all the shady stuff - killings, fights, wife abuse, prostitution, drugs, animal cruelty, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking double parking]] - seem so appealing.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: As long as you don't look too closely, the mob life looks ''very attractive'' when you can live it like Michael and Fredo and the rest. Even all the shady stuff - killings, fights, wife abuse, prostitution, drugs, animal cruelty, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking double parking]] - seem so appealing. Not to mention that many real-life mobsters loved the movies.
19th Dec '16 4:16:52 PM Edgar81539
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** Series/KeyAndPeele noted that the film is very popular with black and Latino audiences, despite the fact that Sicilian gangsters have a reputation for being extremely racist. In fact, several scenes (from Sonny and Pentangeli using ethnic slurs to the Mob commission calling blacks "animals") make it clear the mobsters hold African-Americans in very low regard.
8th Dec '16 8:13:45 AM BatmanKalEl
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** ''Part II'''s MoralEventHorizon is much clearer [[spoiler:where Michael has his own brother Fredo killed for unwittingly betraying Michael to Hyman Roth. Even when it's become obvious that there was no need for the killing at this point, and even he seems to understand this at the end, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone when it's too late]].]] It's so painful that ''Part III'' [[spoiler:can be viewed as Michael's attempt to [[TheAtoner atone]] for the sin of fratricide by seeking salvation allying with the Catholic Church.]]

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** ''Part II'''s MoralEventHorizon is much clearer [[spoiler:where Michael has his own brother Fredo killed for unwittingly betraying Michael to Hyman Roth. Even when it's become obvious that there was no need for the killing at this point, and even he seems to understand this at the end, end of the movie, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone when it's too late]].]] It's so painful that ''Part III'' [[spoiler:can be viewed as Michael's attempt to [[TheAtoner atone]] for the sin of fratricide by seeking salvation allying with the Catholic Church.]]
7th Dec '16 10:36:42 PM BatmanKalEl
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** ''Part II'''s MoralEventHorizon is much clearer [[spoiler:where Michael has his own brother Fredo killed for unwittingly betraying Michael to Hyman Roth. Even when it's become obvious that there was no need for the killing.]] It's so painful that ''Part III'' [[spoiler:can be viewed as Michael's attempt to [[TheAtoner atone]] for the sin of fratricide by seeking salvation allying with the Catholic Church.]]

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** ''Part II'''s MoralEventHorizon is much clearer [[spoiler:where Michael has his own brother Fredo killed for unwittingly betraying Michael to Hyman Roth. Even when it's become obvious that there was no need for the killing.killing at this point, and even he seems to understand this at the end, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone when it's too late]].]] It's so painful that ''Part III'' [[spoiler:can be viewed as Michael's attempt to [[TheAtoner atone]] for the sin of fratricide by seeking salvation allying with the Catholic Church.]]
14th Nov '16 9:42:04 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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27th Oct '16 10:14:24 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The original novel by Mario Puzo is less well-known than the films. The way that the films are titled "Mario Puzo's The Godfather" were actually an attempt by director Francis Ford Coppola to avoid this.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: The original novel by Mario Puzo is less well-known than the films. The way that the films are titled "Mario Puzo's The Godfather" were actually an attempt by director Francis Ford Coppola Creator/FrancisFordCoppola to avoid this.



** Al Pacino's performances as Michael Corleone in Parts I and II (especially the latter) are considered to be among the best performances in film history. Yet, he received no Oscar for either one. He was even nominated in the wrong category (as Supporting Actor) for Part I when he was obviously the main character.

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** Al Pacino's Creator/AlPacino's performances as Michael Corleone in Parts I and II (especially the latter) are considered to be among the best performances in film history. Yet, he received no Oscar for either one. He was even nominated in the wrong category (as Supporting Actor) for Part I when he was obviously the main character.



** Additionally, three actors were nominated for Part II, but John Cazale wasn't among them, even with Fredo taking on an emotional crux in the latter portions of the film. Cazale deserves special mention: during his sadly short lifetime he appeared in five movies, all of which were at least nominated for Best Picture (he also appeared in StockFootage for a flashback scene in Part III, which was also nominated). No other actor can claim every role he made was in a Best Picture nominee.

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** Additionally, three actors were nominated for Part II, but John Cazale Creator/JohnCazale wasn't among them, even with Fredo taking on an emotional crux in the latter portions of the film. Cazale deserves special mention: during his sadly short lifetime he appeared in five movies, all of which were at least nominated for Best Picture (he also appeared in StockFootage for a flashback scene in Part III, which was also nominated). No other actor can claim every role he made was in a Best Picture nominee.



** There was a quite lengthy subplot in the original novel about one of Sonny's mistresses who went out to Hollywood, became friends with Johnny Fontane, and eventually fell in love with a plastic surgeon who [[{{Narm}} performed reconstructive surgery on her vagina]] and then married her. Francis Ford Coppola later said he was so disturbed by this portion of the book that it almost put him off filming it. ''Part III'' ignores this entirely by introducing Vincent, who is the same mistress's son (the book makes a point of saying Sonny never knocked her up before he was killed).

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** There was a quite lengthy subplot in the original novel about one of Sonny's mistresses who went out to Hollywood, became friends with Johnny Fontane, and eventually fell in love with a plastic surgeon who [[{{Narm}} performed reconstructive surgery on her vagina]] and then married her. Francis Ford Coppola Creator/FrancisFordCoppola later said he was so disturbed by this portion of the book that it almost put him off filming it. ''Part III'' ignores this entirely by introducing Vincent, who is the same mistress's son (the book makes a point of saying Sonny never knocked her up before he was killed).



* FightSceneFailure: When Sonny beats down Carlo, one of his punches very obviously misses by a mile, but comes with an impact sound effect and reaction. Ironically, James Caan really did injure Gianni Russo during the filming of this scene.

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* FightSceneFailure: When Sonny beats down Carlo, one of his punches very obviously misses by a mile, but comes with an impact sound effect and reaction. Ironically, James Caan Creator/JamesCaan really did injure Gianni Russo during the filming of this scene.



* HilariousInHindsight: Bank robber John Wojtowicz had seen the film the same day as his famous hostage situation, and said it was an inspiration for some of his tactics. Al Pacino would go on to play him in the film adaptation of the event, ''Film/DogDayAfternoon'', with John Cazale as his accomplice.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Bank robber John Wojtowicz had seen the film the same day as his famous hostage situation, and said it was an inspiration for some of his tactics. Al Pacino Creator/AlPacino would go on to play him in the film adaptation of the event, ''Film/DogDayAfternoon'', with John Cazale as his accomplice.



* NeverLiveItDown: The notion that Frank Sinatra used the mob to get his role in ''Film/FromHereToEternity'' (that he got his UsefulNotes/AcademyAward for) is not based on any evidence from RealLife, but this book and movie. Incidentally Sinatra claimed he would have played Vito had Coppola asked him, and was originally cast as Don Altobello (who was later played by the man Sinatra replaced in ''Eternity'', Eli Wallach).
* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/TheGodfather Has its own page]]

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* NeverLiveItDown: The notion that Frank Sinatra Music/FrankSinatra used the mob to get his role in ''Film/FromHereToEternity'' (that he got his UsefulNotes/AcademyAward for) is not based on any evidence from RealLife, but this book and movie. Incidentally Sinatra claimed he would have played Vito had Coppola asked him, and was originally cast as Don Altobello (who was later played by the man Sinatra replaced in ''Eternity'', Eli Wallach).
* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/TheGodfather Has its own page]]
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* ParanoiaFuel: Woltz has this realisation in the novel after that (in)famous scene, recognizing that if The Mafia could sneak onto his grounds and do the deed they did... In the sequel novels written by Mark Winegardner, when Tom Hagen is obligated to pay Woltz a visit several years later, he finds that much of the tasteful statuary and landscaping on the property have been removed and replaced in favor of greater visibility and security, giving the house a stark, almost fortress-like feel.

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Woltz has this realisation in the novel after that (in)famous scene, recognizing that if The Mafia could sneak onto his grounds and do the deed they did... In the sequel novels written by Mark Winegardner, when Tom Hagen is obligated to pay Woltz a visit several years later, he finds that much of the tasteful statuary and landscaping on the property have been removed and replaced in favor of greater visibility and security, giving the house a stark, almost fortress-like feel.



* ReplacementScrappy: B.J. Harrison in ''Part III''. Besides being a stand-in for Tom Hagen, he [[FlatCharacter doesn't have a discernible personality of his own]] beyond "officious lawyer."

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B.J. Harrison in ''Part III''. Besides being a stand-in for Tom Hagen, he [[FlatCharacter doesn't have a discernible personality of his own]] beyond "officious lawyer."
13th Oct '16 8:24:31 AM wittylibrarian
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Added DiffLines:

** "Michael, we're bigger than US Steel" gets quoted often to describe [[FridgeHorror the scope of corruption]] in business, in politics, in the world.
3rd Sep '16 9:54:00 PM TheBuddy26
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* ContestedSequel: ''The Godfather Part III''. Opinions range from "absolutely terrible" to "not terrible, but not as good in comparison to the two masterpieces that preceded it". Some people contend that ''Part III'' would be a great movie, if not for Sofia Coppola's performance(though in all fairness she was a last-minute replacement for WinonaRyder) as Michael's daughter. It would have also been nice to have Robert Duvall back as Tom Hagen. There are some who consider it just as good as the first 2; [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKda5wqspOA this video essay]] makes an argument for how the third film works if seen as the epilogue to the first two, as Coppola and Puzo originally intended.

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* ContestedSequel: ''The Godfather Part III''.'''''Part III''', big-time''. Opinions range from "absolutely terrible" to "not terrible, but not as good in comparison to the two masterpieces that preceded it". Some people contend that ''Part III'' would be a great movie, if not for Sofia Coppola's performance(though performance (though in all fairness she was a last-minute replacement for WinonaRyder) Creator/WinonaRyder) as Michael's daughter. It would have also been nice to have Robert Duvall back as Tom Hagen. There are some who consider it just as good as the first 2; [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKda5wqspOA this video essay]] makes an argument for how the third film works if seen as the epilogue to the first two, as Coppola and Puzo originally intended.
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