History YMMV / TheGodfather

3rd Aug '17 9:13:43 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Additionally, three actors were nominated for Part II, but Creator/JohnCazale wasn't among them, even with Fredo taking on an emotional crux in the latter portions of the film. Cazale deserves special mention: during his sadly short lifetime he appeared in five movies, all of which were at least nominated for Best Picture (he also appeared in StockFootage for a flashback scene in Part III, which was also nominated). No other actor can claim every role he made was in a Best Picture nominee.

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** Additionally, three actors were nominated for Part II, but Creator/JohnCazale John Cazale wasn't among them, even with Fredo taking on an emotional crux in the latter portions of the film. Cazale deserves special mention: during his sadly short lifetime he appeared in five movies, all of which were at least nominated for Best Picture (he also appeared in StockFootage for a flashback scene in Part III, which was also nominated). No other actor can claim every role he made was in a Best Picture nominee.
21st May '17 11:00:46 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* LawfulEvil: Don Vito Corleone sticks to omerta, sees great value in honor and respect, and rejects drug dealing [[EvenEvilHasStandards out of principle]], but it does not make his motives or methods anything other than evil.
22nd Apr '17 11:31:21 AM BatmanKalEl
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** One of the children in Part III is Jessica DiCocco, a voice actress known for more recent works such as ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' (Flame Princess), ''VideoGame/ResonanceOfFate'' (Leanne) and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''.

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** One of the children in Part III is Jessica DiCocco, [=DiCocco=], a voice actress known for more recent works such as ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' (Flame Princess), ''VideoGame/ResonanceOfFate'' (Leanne) and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''.
16th Apr '17 11:37:18 AM JulianLapostat
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: On account of being so ubiquitous in popular culture and influential, it's often lost how radical and innovative the film was when it came out:
** Until ''The Godfather'' there were many crime movies, many great films, that more or less covered the themes it did, but this was the first mainstream commercial film to fully embrace the perspective of a VillainProtagonist who remains sympathetic despite being and remaining a criminal who goes unpunished legally. It was the first film to fully take advantage of the end of the moral censorship of UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode, after all even ''Film/BonnieAndClyde'' ended (for historical reasons) with the charming villain protagonists dead. The sequels also subvert many of the old crime movie tropes, such as RedemptionQuest, the cops and the government trying to end the mob (they actually go into business together) and even the ''Film/AngelsWithDirtyFaces'' concept of a priest reforming a criminal in ''The Godfather Part III'', while also deconstructing and even mocking the idea of Italian-Americans needing to be a model minority from the {{WASP}} establishment (who are shown in the film to be just as corrupt and not in any way morally superior), that was featured in the original ''Film/{{Scarface 1932}}''.
** Fans of Creator/MartinScorsese's gangster films as well as ''Series/TheSopranos'' sometimes attack ''Film/TheGodfather'' for having a too romantic view of the mob and sentimentalizing TheMafia. At the time Coppola made the film, romanticizing the mob was the radical thing to do, since all gangster films before it had been too {{Anvilicious}} and painted gangsters as one-dimensional thugs with no personalities. To radically break from the tropes that existed before, Coppola and Puzo, went to the opposite end and overlaid the style (with Coppola even comparing it to an Opera). The films by Scorsese and others that followed were more realistic in emphasizing the violence and sociopathy [[TakeAThirdOption of the mob life but they also sought]] to make them three-dimensional relatable characters the way ''The Godfather'' did, which does at times make ''The Godfather'' take on the crime family and genre feel a little off, mixed as it is with EpicMovie and old-fashioned Hollywood touches.
8th Apr '17 9:25:33 PM JulianLapostat
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* OlderThanTheyThink:
** A family-drama about an Italian-American family, whose Patriarch is a "legitimate businessman" with mob ties, who wants his young son to be TheOneWhoMadeItOut and whose elder brothers compete for their father's approval and legacy. The film we are discussing is Creator/JosephLMankiewicz's ''House of Strangers''. Incidentally, Richard Conte (the actor who plays Barzini in ''Part I'') plays the hero in this film, and in his day was considered the first major Italian-American actor.
** Likewise, the film's portrayal of the Mafia and Little Italy in Part II was also preceded by Richard Wilson's ''Pay or Die'' a 1960 film with Ernest Borginine as the Italian-American police officer Joe Petrosino, who became a martyr when he was killed by the Mob. Coppola also cited several Italian films which inspired him, such as Francesco Rosi's ''Salvatore Giuliano'', Alberto Lattuada's ''Mafioso'' among others, which inspired him, especially for the Sicilian sections.
19th Mar '17 2:50:12 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* ToughActToFollow: Part III is not an awful film by any stretch and is pretty decent on its own. Unfortunately, when you're coming after two of the most well-regarded and iconic movies ''of all time'', "pretty decent" falls far short of the mark.
28th Feb '17 4:01:33 PM StFan
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** One of the children in Part III is Jessica DiCocco, a voice actress known for more recent works such as ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' (Flame Princess), ''ResonanceOfFate'' (Leanne) and ''FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''.

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** One of the children in Part III is Jessica DiCocco, a voice actress known for more recent works such as ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' (Flame Princess), ''ResonanceOfFate'' ''VideoGame/ResonanceOfFate'' (Leanne) and ''FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''.''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''.
18th Feb '17 5:00:57 PM Pren
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The original novel by Mario Puzo is less well-known than the films. The way that the films are titled "Mario Puzo's The Godfather" were actually an attempt by Creator/FrancisFordCoppola to avoid this.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: The original novel by Mario Puzo is less well-known than the films. The way that the films are titled "Mario Puzo's The Godfather" were actually an attempt by Creator/FrancisFordCoppola to avoid this. This has started to turn around, though not exactly in a way Puzo would appreciate: it's something of a meme that one of the greatest movies ever made was based on an airport potboiler that's SoOkayItsAverage at best.
19th Jan '17 4:46:34 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The singer at the New Years Eve party in Part II is Ivonne Coll, now well known as Alba in ''Series/JaneTheVirgin''. Also, a very early but noticeable bit part for Danny Aiello.

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The singer at the New Years Eve party in Part II is Ivonne Coll, now well known as Alba in ''Series/JaneTheVirgin''. Also, a very early but noticeable bit part for ''Series/JaneTheVirgin''.
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Danny Aiello.Aiello (''Film/DoTheRightThing'', ''Film/HudsonHawk'') plays one of the Rosatto Brothers in Part II.
** Also in Part II, Creator/HarryDeanStanton is one of the FBI guys guarding Frank Pentagelli when he's a witness for the Senate against Michael.
** Furthermore, Dominic Chianese (Uncle Junior in ''Series/TheSopranos'') plays Johnny Ola.
** One of the children in Part III is Jessica DiCocco, a voice actress known for more recent works such as ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' (Flame Princess), ''ResonanceOfFate'' (Leanne) and ''FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks''.
2nd Jan '17 11:22:55 AM JulianLapostat
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* FandomRivalry: This movie's fandom has one with Film/TheDarkKnight's, and now, Film/TheShawshankRedemption's, over which movie deserves to be #1 on IMDB's Top 250 movies of all time list, see Shawshank's YMMV page for full details.

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This movie's fandom has one with Film/TheDarkKnight's, and now, Film/TheShawshankRedemption's, over which movie deserves to be #1 on IMDB's Top 250 movies of all time list, see Shawshank's YMMV page for full details.details.
** Fans of Scorsese's gangster films Film/MeanStreets and especially, Film/GoodFellas tend to insist that the latter is more realistic, more truthful and less sentimental than Film/TheGodfather, and expect people to debate which is the better "gangster" film. Note that this is only among fans, Scorsese and Coppola are themselves good friends and Coppola even cast Catherine Scorsese, Martin's mother who would often cameo in her son's films (and shared a famous scene in Film/GoodFellas) in Film/TheGodfatherPartIII.
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