History YMMV / TheGodfather

20th Jun '16 6:51:50 PM BatmanKalEl
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** It also did this for Italian-American and ethnic Americans in general. Before Film/TheGodfather, Italian-Americans were usually considered FunnyForeigners in Hollywood movies and the general look of Hollywood was fairly [=WASPy=]. While films feature Italian-Americans and other hyphenated immigrant Americans did exist before, it was usually seen as a niche film. Film/TheGodfather brought the immigrant experience to the mainstream, and its critical, sympathetic and down-to-earth portrayal of Italian Americans, while ironically catering to TheMafia stereotype, broke all the cliches with American audiences identifying with Michael Corleone to the same extent they once identified with [[Film/GoneWithTheWind Scarlett O'Hara]].

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** It also did this for Italian-American and ethnic Americans in general. Before Film/TheGodfather, Italian-Americans were usually considered FunnyForeigners {{Funny Foreigner}}s in Hollywood movies and the general look of Hollywood was fairly [=WASPy=]. While films feature Italian-Americans and other hyphenated immigrant Americans did exist before, it was usually seen as a niche film. Film/TheGodfather brought the immigrant experience to the mainstream, and its critical, sympathetic and down-to-earth portrayal of Italian Americans, while ironically catering to TheMafia stereotype, broke all the cliches with American audiences identifying with Michael Corleone to the same extent they once identified with [[Film/GoneWithTheWind Scarlett O'Hara]].
2nd Jun '16 7:47:56 AM 06tele
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Much of what critics attacked with ''Part III'' was already present in ''Part II''. Long-lost Corleone family friends emerging from nowhere (Don Altobello)? Hello, Hyman Roth and Frank Pentangeli! Historical background woven into the main plot (the Vatican Bank scandal)? Remember Michael testifying before the Kefauver Committee and visiting pre-revolutionary Havana? And Coppola's casting family members goes back to the original: Talia Shire, his sister, played Connie in all three films.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Much of what critics attacked with ''Part III'' was already present in ''Part II''. Long-lost Corleone family friends emerging from nowhere (Don Altobello)? Hello, Hyman Roth and Frank Pentangeli! Historical background woven into the main plot (the Vatican Bank scandal)? Remember Michael testifying before the Kefauver Committee and visiting pre-revolutionary Havana? And Coppola's casting family members goes back to the original: Talia Shire, his sister, played Connie in all three films.[[note]]In fairness, nobody criticised Coppola for casting his own sister, because Talia Shire is a very good actress. Coppola was criticised for casting his daughter because Sofia Coppola just wasn't very good at acting (although she turned out to be very good at other things).[[/note]]
26th May '16 11:56:32 AM TrollBrutal
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* DarkerAndEdgier: ''Part II'' emphasizes the corruption and ugliness inherent in organized crime. Michael grows colder, more murderous and increasingly paranoid as his power grows; he's betrayed by longtime henchmen and ultimately [[spoiler:his own brother]], besides driving away his wife and kids. His murders are less cathartic and justifiable, with [[spoiler:Michael killing a prostitute to frame Senator Geary, sending Rocco on a SuicideMission to kill a terminally ill Roth and ordering Fredo's execution]]. It's virtually a deconstruction of the original film's treatment of the Mafia lifestyle.
26th May '16 11:38:34 AM AllenbysEyes88
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* DarkerAndEdgier: ''Part II'' emphasizes the corruption and ugliness inherent in organized crime. Michael grows colder, more murderous and increasingly paranoid as his power grows; he's betrayed by longtime henchmen and ultimately [[spoiler:his own brother]], besides driving away his wife and kids. His murders are less cathartic and justifiable, with [[spoiler:Michael killing a prostitute to frame Senator Geary, sending Rocco on a SuicideMission to kill a terminally ill Roth and ordering Fredo's execution]]. It's virtually a deconstruction of the original film's treatment of the Mafia lifestyle.


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** Frankie Pentangeli in ''Part II'' is a notable aversion. Despite being a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for Clemenza, he's a distinct, engaging character in his own right and well-liked by franchise fans.
23rd Apr '16 12:38:39 PM AllenbysEyes88
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The singer at the New Years Eve party in Part II is Ivonne Coll, now well known as Alba in ''Series/JaneTheVirgin''.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: The singer at the New Years Eve party in Part II is Ivonne Coll, now well known as Alba in ''Series/JaneTheVirgin''. Also, a very early but noticeable bit part for Danny Aiello.
23rd Apr '16 12:30:58 PM AllenbysEyes88
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** Series/KeyAndPeele noted that the film is very popular with black and Latino audiences, despite the fact that Sicilian gangsters have a reputation for being extremely racist. In fact, there's at least one scene in the movie explicitly showing that the mobsters hold African-Americans in very low regard.

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** Series/KeyAndPeele noted that the film is very popular with black and Latino audiences, despite the fact that Sicilian gangsters have a reputation for being extremely racist. In fact, there's at least one scene in several scenes (from Sonny and Pentangeli using ethnic slurs to the movie explicitly showing that Mob commission calling blacks "animals") make it clear the mobsters hold African-Americans in very low regard.
23rd Apr '16 12:25:53 PM AllenbysEyes88
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** Willie Cicci's "The Family had a lot of buffers!" is frequently applied to real-life business or political scandals.
22nd Apr '16 9:56:42 PM comicwriter
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** Series/KeyAndPeele noted that the film is very popular with black and Latino audiences, despite the fact that Italian-American gangsters have a reputation for being extremely racist. In fact, there's at least one scene in the movie explicitly showing that the mobsters hold African-Americans in very low regard.

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** Series/KeyAndPeele noted that the film is very popular with black and Latino audiences, despite the fact that Italian-American Sicilian gangsters have a reputation for being extremely racist. In fact, there's at least one scene in the movie explicitly showing that the mobsters hold African-Americans in very low regard.
22nd Apr '16 9:02:49 PM comicwriter
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* MisaimedFandom: More than a few people have, when discussing the film, referred to Michael as the ultimate Bad Ass. Smart, powerful, decisive, etc. That is not the point of his character arc. His story is a tragedy. Real-life mobsters are huge fans of the trilogy.

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More than a few people have, when discussing the film, referred to Michael as the ultimate Bad Ass. Smart, powerful, decisive, etc. That is not the point of his character arc. His story is a tragedy. Real-life mobsters are huge fans of the trilogy.trilogy.
** Series/KeyAndPeele noted that the film is very popular with black and Latino audiences, despite the fact that Italian-American gangsters have a reputation for being extremely racist. In fact, there's at least one scene in the movie explicitly showing that the mobsters hold African-Americans in very low regard.
16th Apr '16 3:20:20 PM aye_amber
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* FandomRivalry: This movie's fandom has one with TheDarkKnight's, and now, TheShawshankRedemption's, over which movie deserves to be #1 on IMDB's Top 250 movies of all time list, see Shawshank's YMMV page for full details.

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* FandomRivalry: This movie's fandom has one with TheDarkKnight's, Film/TheDarkKnight's, and now, TheShawshankRedemption's, Film/TheShawshankRedemption's, over which movie deserves to be #1 on IMDB's Top 250 movies of all time list, see Shawshank's YMMV page for full details.
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