History YMMV / TheEpicOfGilgamesh

6th Dec '16 8:42:48 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** So basically, not only was Gilgamesh not an idiot, he was actually incredibly GenreSavvy! Impressive, considering the age of the tale.
*** The real problem wasn't whether Gilgamesh was savvy enough, it was that he was WrongGenreSavvy. Which might be understandable since he was the first to try to subvert many foolish actions, but because he was the first, he didn't realize option 2 could have just as many problem as option 1. For example, he knew it was bad luck to fall for Ishtar, but he didn't seem to realize just brushing her off and rebuking her was just as bad as accepting her advances.
6th Dec '16 8:42:04 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* MartyStu: A king, partly divine, all but invincible, SuperStrength, gets laid with every girl in his kingdom but snubs ''the goddess of [=R3D H0T S3XX0RS=]''... Gilgamesh is wish-fulfillment SnarkBait by modern standards. He's effectively protected by a GrandfatherClause, since he predates most tropes.



*** The real problem wasn't whether Gilgamesh was GenreSavvy enough, it was that he was WrongGenreSavvy. Which might be understandable since he was the first to try to subvert many foolish actions, but because he was the first, he didn't realize option 2 could have just as many problem as option 1. For example, he knew it was bad luck to fall for Ishtar, but he didn't seem to realize just brushing her off and rebuking her was just as bad as accepting her advances.

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*** The real problem wasn't whether Gilgamesh was GenreSavvy savvy enough, it was that he was WrongGenreSavvy. Which might be understandable since he was the first to try to subvert many foolish actions, but because he was the first, he didn't realize option 2 could have just as many problem as option 1. For example, he knew it was bad luck to fall for Ishtar, but he didn't seem to realize just brushing her off and rebuking her was just as bad as accepting her advances.
19th Nov '16 12:17:08 PM Morgenthaler
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** UnbuiltTrope: A lot of the wish-fulfillment elements are portrayed as immature character flaws that needs to be overcome (consider how later Myth/ClassicalMythology might have treated the same subjects), his heroic adventures only sets of a chain of events leading to the death of his best friend and when going on the most important quest of his life what do he do? He fails.
1st Nov '16 3:15:11 PM dlchen145
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* MemeticBadass: The sole reason why the story survives today. We wouldn't have so many tablets if they weren't being made and put all over Mesopotamia just to tell everyone how {{Badass}} he was and how you can never hope to reach the level of sheer badassery he was at.

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* MemeticBadass: The sole reason why the story survives today. We wouldn't have so many tablets if they weren't being made and put all over Mesopotamia just to tell everyone how {{Badass}} badass he was and how you can never hope to reach the level of sheer badassery he was at.
21st Aug '16 5:18:34 PM CJCroen1393
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* NightmareFuel: Perhaps the most memorable moment in the story--what finally leads Gilgamesh to accept that Enkidu is dead is when he sees a worm ''crawling out of his nose''.
4th May '15 11:49:23 AM nombretomado
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** UnbuiltTrope: A lot of the wish-fulfillment elements are portrayed as immature character flaws that needs to be overcome (consider how later ClassicalMythology might have treated the same subjects), his heroic adventures only sets of a chain of events leading to the death of his best friend and when going on the most important quest of his life what do he do? He fails.

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** UnbuiltTrope: A lot of the wish-fulfillment elements are portrayed as immature character flaws that needs to be overcome (consider how later ClassicalMythology Myth/ClassicalMythology might have treated the same subjects), his heroic adventures only sets of a chain of events leading to the death of his best friend and when going on the most important quest of his life what do he do? He fails.
1st Aug '14 5:57:26 PM eowynjedi
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* ValuesDissonance: The tendency to paint Shamhat as a harlot and seductress. Despite Ishtar's less-than-flattering portrayal in this story, she was a very important and revered goddess and the sex is part of the sacred duties of her priestesses. Not to mention that the weeklong tryst with Enkidu isn't a fall, but the first event that ''raises'' him above the level of an animal.
2nd Aug '13 6:41:40 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FanYay: Fans love the HoYay.

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* FanYay: LGBTFanbase: Fans love the HoYay.
21st Jul '13 11:18:28 AM painocus
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** UnbuiltTrope: A lot of the wish-fulfillment elements are portrayed as immature character flaws that needs to be overcome (consider how later ClassicalMythology might have treated the same subjects), his heroic adventures only sets of a chain of events leading to the death of his best friend and when going on the most important quest of his life what do he do? He fails.
13th Jul '13 12:04:21 PM Solomontastic
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* TearJerker: The death of Enkidu.
* {{Wangst}}: Same as above... and is cranked up when he realizes he lost the immortality plant.

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* TearJerker: The death of Enkidu.
* {{Wangst}}: Same
Enkidu. Doubles as above... and is cranked up when he realizes he lost the immortality plant.{{Mangst}}.
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